Hackintosh help

[RTX 3090]

Hi, I am trying to make a hackintosh, I have a Lenovo M81 with following specs

• i3 3220T
• iGPU
• 4GB RAM
• 240GB SSD

What is the best and easiest way to go about doing it. I have seen this thing called unibeast, is it any good. I wouldn't mind trying a VMware but I'm guessing with an i3 it will be very slow. Any recommendations 

[Roswell]

macOS doesn’t support your iGPU (HD 2500). It won’t work, unfortunately.

[RTX 3090]

Just now, Vitamanic said:

macOS doesn’t support your iGPU (HD 2500). It won’t work, unfortunately.

Not even with virtualisation like VMware

Some people managed to do it on Core 2 duo so I though it would be possible

[Roswell]

9 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

Not even with virtualisation like VMware

Some people managed to do it on Core 2 duo so I though it would be possible

You could run it with a VM but it’s going to be really clunky and slow with that processor and only 4GB of RAM. You also won’t really get any of the Apple ecosystem things to work in a VM like iMessage, FaceTime, airdrop and so on.

 

Might be better off with Linux? There are plenty of Linux distros that give you a clean *nix experience on lower end hardware. Something like Elementary Linux would run well in that machine and follows a similar design philosophy to Mac.
 

 

[RTX 3090]

9 minutes ago, Vitamanic said:

You could run it with a VM but it’s going to be really clunky and slow with that processor and only 4GB of RAM. You also won’t really get any of the Apple ecosystem things to work in a VM like iMessage, FaceTime, airdrop and so on.

 

Might be better off with Linux? There are plenty of Linux distros that give you a clean *nix experience on lower end hardware. Something like Elementary Linux would run well in that machine and follows a similar design philosophy to Mac.

Just need to run xcode and final cut pro. Don't need imessage or any of that stuff

I have another PC that is AMD Athlon 3000g 4GB RAM and 512GB nVME SSD, will it work with that (also uses iGPU)

[Kilrah]

Final cut pro won't work in a VM or without a supported GPU. 

 

Mac OS in a Virtualbox VM runs unusably slow even just for desktop operations on a 9900K. 

[RTX 3090]

37 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

Final cut pro won't work in a VM or without a supported GPU. 

 

Mac OS in a Virtualbox VM runs unusably slow even just for desktop operations on a 9900K. 

I saw this guy on youtube and he said final cut pro worked fine on a cheap dell PC

[RTX 3090]

 

[ProjectBox153]

10 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

Not even with virtualisation like VMware

Some people managed to do it on Core 2 duo so I though it would be possible

Yes, macOS can run on a Core 2 Duo. My Dell OptiPlex 780 runs El Capitan with a Core 2 Duo. However, it has a supported GPU installed. Your integrated graphics aren't supported, and running macOS in a virtual machine is a bad idea. 

You'll need a GPU that is supported by macOS if you want any chance of using Final Cut Pro.

[RTX 3090]

2 hours ago, ProjectBox153 said:

Yes, macOS can run on a Core 2 Duo. My Dell OptiPlex 780 runs El Capitan with a Core 2 Duo. However, it has a supported GPU installed. Your integrated graphics aren't supported, and running macOS in a virtual machine is a bad idea. 

You'll need a GPU that is supported by macOS if you want any chance of using Final Cut Pro.

I have a spare OptiPlex 780 and a GTX650 Ti and GT710. Can you recommend any cheapish GPU for the 780. Also please can you share the tutorial you used and any problems with it (e.g. WiFi doesn't work)

[ProjectBox153]

11 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

I have a spare OptiPlex 780 and a GTX650 Ti and GT710. Can you recommend any cheapish GPU for the 780. Also please can you share the tutorial you used and any problems with it (e.g. WiFi doesn't work)

I don't have a tutorial that I followed completely as I'm pretty knowledgeable with this stuff, but I wouldn't recommend the OptiPlex 780 at all if you want to use Final Cut. Seriously, a Core 2 Duo/Quad system from 2010 isn't going to cut it. 

As for potential problems with it: there is no Wi-Fi in the OptiPlex 780 so it wouldn't work anyway and sleep was a bit hit or miss. I was running El Capitan at the time. 

[dilpickle]

15 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

Just need to run xcode and final cut pro.

Buy a Mac Mini. Hackintoshes are just for playing around.

[ProjectBox153]

17 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

Buy a Mac Mini. Hackintoshes are just for playing around.

I very much disagree with the last part of that statement, but a Mac mini does sound like a good idea for them. 

[RTX 3090]

10 hours ago, ProjectBox153 said:

OptiPlex 780 at all if you want to use Final Cut. Seriously, a Core 2 Duo/Quad system from 2010 isn't going to cut it.

Is it not possible to put a Core 2 Quad in it and maybe something like a GTX650. Apparently final cut runs smooth even on corei5 gen4 with iGPU so I though maybe it is not hardware intensive.

 

7 hours ago, dilpickle said:

Buy a Mac Mini.

10 hours ago, ProjectBox153 said:

sleep was a bit hit or miss

Don't need sleep, just need it to switch on, connect to internet and open xcode and final cut (probably be working with 1080p 60fps 24M footage so with probably do half playback quality)

[ProjectBox153]

3 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

Is it not possible to put a Core 2 Quad in it and maybe something like a GTX650. Apparently final cut runs smooth even on corei5 gen4 with iGPU so I though maybe it is not hardware intensive.

Lol no. The OptiPlex 780 DOES support Core 2 Quads (I know because I own many of these machines, and my 780 SFF has a Core 2 Quad in it), but you are kidding yourself if you are comparing a Core 2 Duo to a 4th gen Core i5. Those 2 CPUs are in completely different territories.

3 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

True. Try to find a used one?

3 hours ago, RTX 3090 said:

Don't need sleep, just need it to switch on, connect to internet and open xcode and final cut (probably be working with 1080p 60fps 24M footage so with probably do half playback quality)

Again, lol. That's just completely unreasonable for a Core 2 Duo system. I've done this sort of work on a C2D. Trust me, it doesn't go well. 

[RTX 3090]

2 minutes ago, ProjectBox153 said:

Lol no. The OptiPlex 780 DOES support Core 2 Quads (I know because I own many of these machines, and my 780 SFF has a Core 2 Quad in it), but you are kidding yourself if you are comparing a Core 2 Duo to a 4th gen Core i5. Those 2 CPUs are in completely different territories.

Ohh right, just saw a decent score in Passmark so thought it was decent 

3 minutes ago, ProjectBox153 said:

True. Try to find a used one?

Still kinda expensive : £300 for a Core i5 fifth gen. Can get a very powerful used server for that price (64 cores, 128GB RAM, I have the HP DL580 G7)

I have heard of these macOS iso files, do they install on any PC easily

I saw one called niresh mac os iso 10.14

 

[ProjectBox153]

1 minute ago, RTX 3090 said:

Ohh right, just saw a decent score in Passmark so thought it was decent 

Still kinda expensive : £300 for a Core i5 fifth gen. Can get a very powerful used server for that price (64 cores, 128GB RAM, I have the HP DL580 G7)

Try to look for a 2012 Mac mini with a quad core i7. If you can find one of those for a good price then they're still pretty good.

1 minute ago, RTX 3090 said:

I have heard of these macOS iso files, do they install on any PC easily

I saw one called niresh mac os iso 10.14

I would personally stay away from those. There's a reason that they aren't trusted in some of the Hackintosh communities. I've never gotten a Niresh distro to work. 

[RTX 3090]

11 minutes ago, ProjectBox153 said:

There's a reason that they aren't trusted in some of the Hackintosh communities

tbh I don't really care too much about trust, I just want something that works, 

[ProjectBox153]

5 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

tbh I don't really care too much about trust, I just want something that works, 

That's not the thing. From my experience those aren't likely to work in the first place plus you don't know what's been changed about it. 

[RTX 3090]

24 minutes ago, ProjectBox153 said:

That's not the thing. From my experience those aren't likely to work in the first place plus you don't know what's been changed about it. 

Is there anything that "just works"

[ProjectBox153]

10 minutes ago, RTX 3090 said:

Is there anything that "just works"

With a Hackintosh not really. macOS on a non-Apple computer isn't really the way to go if you don't have any experience with it and need something that just works. 

[Kilrah]

The only way to have Mac OS "just work" is to buy a Mac

 

 

[ProjectBox153]

31 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

The only way to have Mac OS "just work" is to buy a Mac

 

 

Exactly. Or spend far too long tinkering with things until you get a Hackintosh just right. Then you have to remind yourself not to install any macOS updates. 

[RTX 3090]

On 1/5/2021 at 5:31 PM, ProjectBox153 said:

Exactly. Or spend far too long tinkering with things until you get a Hackintosh just right. Then you have to remind yourself not to install any macOS updates. 

 

On 1/5/2021 at 4:59 PM, Kilrah said:

The only way to have Mac OS "just work" is to buy a Mac

I have downloaded Mac OS on a VMware VM and it works perfectly fine. But I want to know, to use the VM I downloaded this .iso file from this tutorial, so will the .iso work in any PC if I just use rufus and create booteable media ?

[Kilrah]

No, you have to use unibeast to make the bootable install media.