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Good day LTT community, I would just like to ask some help regarding my pc having High memory usage upon startup. 

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You’ve got a whole bunch of stuff set to run on startup.

You seem to be running 3 different rgb control programs and a host of background apps combined with not a lot of memory.  Razor synapse appears to have many different processes going and could be eating near a gig by itself.  
 

im not super surprised here

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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21 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

You’ve got a whole bunch of stuff set to run on startup.

You seem to be running 3 different rgb control programs and a host of background apps combined with not a lot of memory.  Razor synapse appears to have many different processes going and could be eating near a gig by itself.  
 

im not super surprised here

20 minutes ago, ragnarok0273 said:

I see some Razer applications using a lot.

So there's no memory leaking happening on my system? I tried looking up on some high memory usage and most of the threads that i came upon says that its due to a memory leak. Tbh yes i do have some applications that runs at startup like bittorent, and yes i am guilty of having 3rgb applications that like nzxt cam, razer cortex/synapse well this two comes in a bundle when i only wanted to get is synapse for my razer deathadder elite since it doesn't have an onboard memory to save my dpi settings, and corsair icue for my hs70 wireless. I'm also running kaspersky AV, Riva Statistic tuner for fps counter, nvida GFE and cc Cleaner on startup. Though I only noticed this high memory usage yesterday cause when I was playing an MMORPG game and i experienced a sudden fps drop from 100fps to like 10+fps and spiked back up to 100fps and i checked on nzxt cam and saw that i my ram usage was like 90-96%. Though i remember in the past while playing the same game i am only using like 60-70%.

 

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Just now, DND said:

So there's no memory leaking happening on my system? I tried looking up on some high memory usage and most of the threads that i came upon says that its due to a memory leak. Tbh yes i do have some applications that runs at startup like bittorent, and yes i am guilty of having 3rgb applications that like nzxt cam, razer cortex/synapse well this two comes in a bundle when i only wanted to get is synapse for my razer deathadder elite since it doesn't have an onboard memory to save my dpi settings, and corsair icue for my hs70 wireless. I'm also running kaspersky AV, Riva Statistic tuner for fps counter, nvida GFE on startup. Though I only noticed this high memory usage yesterday cause when I was playing an MMORPG game and i experienced a sudden fps drop from 100fps to like 10+fps and spiked back up to 100fps and i checked on nzxt cam and saw that i my ram usage was like 90-96%. Though i remember in the past while playing the same game i am only using like 60-70%.

 

Memory leaks are one way.  They’re pretty rare though.  A memory leak is the result of bad coding.  Lots of chrome tabs left open for a long time are another.  The chrome tab thing isn’t actually a memory leak thing though it just acts a bit like one.  As it sits you’ve got so much background stuff running you wouldn’t even need a memory leak to run yourself out of memory.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Memory leaks are one way.  They’re pretty rare though.  A memory leak is the result of bad coding.  Lots of chrome tabs left open for a long time are another.  The chrome tab thing isn’t actually a memory leak thing though it just acts a bit like one.  As it sits you’ve got so much background stuff running you wouldn’t even need a memory leak to run yourself out of memory.

I see, I also thought that it might not be a memory leak due to I have read on a thread about someone also having a high memory usage but his non paged pool is high af see picture below.
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Since mine isn't like that it really must not be due to a memory leak. Regarding having so many chrome tabs opened up i think in the past 2 months I had a time when I was playing a RPG game where I had like 5-7 tabs opened all the time due to looking at walkthroughs to finish my completionist run on that game. What would you recommend I do? Should I just delete some of the applications certain apps? If thats the case what would you recommend removing other than synapse based on the processes that you can see?

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2 minutes ago, DND said:

I see, I also thought that it might not be a memory leak due to I have read on a thread about someone also having a high memory usage but his non paged pool is high af see picture below.
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Since mine isn't like that it really must not be due to a memory leak. Regarding having so many chrome tabs opened up i think in the past 2 months I had a time when I was playing a RPG game where I had like 5-7 tabs opened all the time due to looking at walkthroughs to finish my completionist run on that game. What would you recommend I do? Should I just delete some of the applications certain apps? If thats the case what would you recommend removing other than synapse based on the processes that you can see?

Chrome tabs are apparently actually used these days as a measurable cpu and memory stressor.  They tend to open hundreds of them for that though.  My personal solution is to not use chrome.  As for what to turn off they all do something.  That’s a decision you’ll have to make yourself.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Chrome tabs are apparently actually used these days as a measurable cpu and memory stressor.  They tend to open hundreds of them for that though.  My personal solution is to not use chrome.  As for what to turn off they all do something.  That’s a decision you’ll have to make yourself.

I could actually see that even with just like 1 chrome tab open it uses up like 400mb of memory what browser would you recommend switching to? I sometimes use edge when I want to watch netflix since edge officially supports streaming netflix in 1080p. I also would just want to ask or confirm that the apps that use most of my memory is the 3 rgb software which are nzxt cam,icue, and razer apps right?

 

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5 minutes ago, DND said:

I could actually see that even with just like 1 chrome tab open it uses up like 400mb of memory what browser would you recommend switching to? I sometimes use edge when I want to watch netflix since edge officially supports streaming netflix in 1080p. I also would just want to ask or confirm that the apps that use most of my memory is the 3 rgb software which are nzxt cam,icue, and razer apps right?

 

There are people who are aficionados of browsers.  I am not one such.  I’ve heard opera is or was at one time easy on memory. I don’t know if that is still true though. I personally prefer edge over chrome even though they’re basically the same thing simply because microsoft doesn’t datamine as deeply as Google does.  I personally use Firefox, edge, and safari (on the Apple stuff I use) there was one that had a lion logo that I tried but it was annoying and kept sending these pointless alerts.

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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Just now, Bombastinator said:

There are people who are aficionados of browsers.  I am not one such.  I’ve heard opera is or was at one time easy on memory. I don’t know if that is still true though. I personally prefer edge over chrome even though they’re basically the same thing simply because microsoft doesn’t datamine as deeply as Google does.  I personally use Firefox, edge, and safari (on the Apple stuff I use) there was one that had a lion logo that I tried but it was annoying and kept sending these pointless alerts.

I see maybe i'll try switching to edge and see how it pans out. I'm also gonna try and remove some programs like icue and see if my memory usage would drop down significantly.

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2 minutes ago, DND said:

I see maybe i'll try switching to edge and see how it pans out. I'm also gonna try and remove some programs like icue and see if my memory usage would drop down significantly.

Most of those rgb control programs are only useful if you’ve got rgb that needs to use them. ICUE is I think for Corsair stuff for example.  You’ll probably need to do some messing about.  The razor software seems to be the big user.  All the apps are small but there’s a bunch of them.  I am reminded of a statement made by some government official “a billion here a billion there and pretty soon you are talking about real money”

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Most of those rgb control programs are only useful if you’ve got rgb that needs to use them. ICUE is I think for Corsair stuff for example.  You’ll probably need to do some messing about.  The razor software seems to be the big user.  All the apps are small but there’s a bunch of them.  I am reminded of a statement made by some government official “a billion here a billion there and pretty soon you are talking about real money”

Yeah I just removed icue since my headset doesn't even have rgb and its somewhat on its last legs since even though its wireless i can only use it now with it plugged on the usb charging cable. It reduced a good chunk of my memory usage with icue being removed.

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@Bombastinator update removed the other softwares i didn't really need got the mem usage down from 50%+ to around 40-45ish thanks for the help it seems that synapse is really the one that eats most of my mem but since i really need it for dpi control i guess i'll have to live with it until i get to upgrade my whole setup early next year.

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29 minutes ago, DND said:

@Bombastinator update removed the other softwares i didn't really need got the mem usage down from 50%+ to around 40-45ish thanks for the help it seems that synapse is really the one that eats most of my mem but since i really need it for dpi control i guess i'll have to live with it until i get to upgrade my whole setup early next year.

One option if you’re using a desktop is just throw in more memory.  Cant be done with every system of course. 

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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35 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

One option if you’re using a desktop is just throw in more memory.  Cant be done with every system of course. 

Yep I am using a desktop I have thought about just adding more memory but I just thought i'll be upgrading/building a new system anyways so just have to bear with it for the meantime.

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Fair enough.  Used ddr3 is pretty cheap these days but there’s no reason to throw good money after bad

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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On 12/10/2020 at 11:06 AM, Bombastinator said:

Fair enough.  Used ddr3 is pretty cheap these days but there’s no reason to throw good money after bad

Yep yep, Btw thanks for the helping me out.

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14 minutes ago, DND said:

Yep yep, Btw thanks for the helping me out.

Np yw

Not a pro, not even very good.  I’m just old and have time currently.  Assuming I know a lot about computers can be a mistake.

 

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