KeePass password server?

[y3llowduk]

Apologies if this isn't strictly server related but...

 

I'm reluctantly trialling Google Workspace for small business. I'm trying to think up a decent password storage/hosting solution which links in with shared google drives. Currently using KeePass with each department having their own separate database of passwords for 3rd party sites. I can't figure out a nice way of integrating it into google drive.

 

The issue is this - you can't sync shared drives with the Google Drive desktop folder, only your personal drive area. If I were able to do this, users could simply navigate to the physical google drive folder on their PC, and immediately open the shared KeePass database with their desktop installation of KeePass. Obviously the web app lacks a viewer of KeePass databases and I'm not plugging my credentials into a 3rd party plugin!

 

I need some way of having a password manager that integrates with my different departmental shared areas. Maybe via some URL unique to each department. Maybe I could use a FTP server as I know KeePass can read FTP URL's? Bit of a disgusting solution. I'm open to other suggestions to alternative password managers of course, but I'd rather keep it free and semi-DIY! Would be good to have it self hosted from within my existing google drive, rather than bringing in another 3rd party. Already peeved over potentially moving over to entirely cloud based.... I want my own servers  

 

Hope this makes sense... bit of a long one... Tia, Duck.

[Noah0302]

My company uses a KeePass File on OneDrive that is synced to all IT-personal. Im pretty sure its not the best solution, but it works I guess

[y3llowduk]

5 minutes ago, Noah0302 said:

My company uses a KeePass File on OneDrive that is synced to all IT-personal. Im pretty sure its not the best solution, but it works I guess

How do you sync it with a select department?

[Electronics Wizardy]

How about bitwaraden as a password manger, Then it can be self hosted, run from a brower, and do all that you need here.

[y3llowduk]

18 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

How about bitwaraden as a password manger, Then it can be self hosted, run from a brower, and do all that you need here.

I guess you mean I create several logins with generic emails, for each department?

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, y3llowduk said:

I guess you mean I create several logins with generic emails, for each department?

Make an account per user, and give the user access to the passwords they need. Make all accounts on a per user basis.

 

Id also take a closer look t office 365, seems to work better for a lot of businesses Ive seen.

[y3llowduk]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Make an account per user, and give the user access to the passwords they need. Make all accounts on a per user basis.

 

Id also take a closer look t office 365, seems to work better for a lot of businesses Ive seen.

Unfortunately it seems there's a limit of 2 users per organisation unless you pay for the subscription. I really want a free, self-hosted solution if possible. Don't get why there isn't just a baked in password manager, dictated by organisational unit/group as defined in Workspace, rather than only personal password vaults. It seems like such a simple thing to require but with no obvious solution.

 

I've given 365 a go for a few weeks with a few users and really didn't get on with it. Mainly how teams is managed. Lots of silly niggles like you can't create recurring tasks within teams for assignment without using broken 3rd party apps... even though the dedicated microsoft to-do list application does allow recurring tasks. Just little things that seem a lot more streamlined and simple on the google ecosystem (so far... could change!). Poor performance of the web-based office apps compared with google docs (calculations and general navigation lag on large sheets) and also the complete lack of function to reference/pull data from other workbooks with the web-based apps for some reason.

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, y3llowduk said:

Unfortunately it seems there's a limit of 2 users per organisation unless you pay for the subscription. I really want a free, self-hosted solution if possible. Don't get why there isn't just a baked in password manager, dictated by organisational unit/group as defined in Workspace, rather than only personal password vaults. It seems like such a simple thing to require but with no obvious solution.

 

bitwarden is free and opensource and self hosted. I think your looking at the hosted version

 

3 minutes ago, y3llowduk said:

I've given 365 a go for a few weeks with a few users and really didn't get on with it. Mainly how teams is managed. Lots of silly niggles like you can't create recurring tasks within teams for assignment without using broken 3rd party apps... even though the dedicated microsoft to-do list application does allow recurring tasks. Just little things that seem a lot more streamlined and simple on the google ecosystem (so far... could change!). Poor performance of the web-based office apps compared with google docs (calculations and general navigation lag on large sheets) and also the complete lack of function to reference/pull data from other workbooks with the web-based apps for some reason.

Are you a mostly windows envrioment?

 

If so office 365 integrates much better with windows, and you can use it for windows management, and comes with office. Thats a huge plus for me. 

 

Google workplaces works pretty well with web and cromebooks based systems, but then you have to have anouther system to manage systems. 

[y3llowduk]

19 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

bitwarden is free and opensource and self hosted. I think your looking at the hosted version

 

Are you a mostly windows envrioment?

 

If so office 365 integrates much better with windows, and you can use it for windows management, and comes with office. Thats a huge plus for me. 

 

Google workplaces works pretty well with web and cromebooks based systems, but then you have to have anouther system to manage systems. 

So I've spent all of today trying to get a Bitwarden server up and running but I can't get it to work. Just a case of my Linux skills not being up to scratch. I fear that even if I do get it working, I'll be hopeless at managing it if there's any issues. Appreciate the suggestion though, it does look good. I might try it on Windows Server at some point, but can't really justify the licence cost just for a password manager.... might be some way round that idk.

 

We are mostly windows, but most of my staff are all PC nerds like me so I trust them with limited local device management. I might look at trying some chromebooks for my more mobile staff... there's a thing on with PC World at the moment (UK) where you can try a chromebook for 90 days and return it if you don't like it... might give one a go.

[y3llowduk]

Ok I've solved it. Google have this alternate application to their regular google drive desktop folder, called file stream. It actually allows you to navigate to a shared google drive! Thus I can have a keepass database for each departmental shared drive. Why on earth this is such a hidden program/feature and why this functionality isn't built into the regular google drive application, I do not know.