RX6800 Build help

[Cheesus182]

Budget (including currency): Approx. €1000, can go a bit over if it makes a big difference. (6800 not included so real budget is 1600 I suppose)

Country:  Europe

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  AAA games, MS Flight Sim etc.

Other details, existing hardware: RX6800, 100Hz 1440p ultra wide, mouse & keyboard

 

Hey guys,

 

I managed to get my self an RX6800 on launch yesterday and now I'm looking for some help with the rest of the build.

Its my first build so I'm really unsure about compatibility and how to get the most out of the system.

 

Here is what I have so far:

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€349.00) 
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€189.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory  (€63.90) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€159.00) 
Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card  (Purchased For €0.00) 
Case: Deepcool Gamer Storm MACUBE 550 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€94.00) 
Power Supply: EVGA G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (€111.00) 

Total: €966.79

 

 

N.B. The Motherboard having decent WiFi is unfortunately necessary in my apartment as I rely on Powerline adapters which cap at 80Mbs real download while my WiFi hits around 450Mbs.

 

My main concern is the availability of the 5600x. I haven't been able to find it anywhere since launch.

As this machine is purely for gaming, I would quite like to take advantage of the "Rage Mode" and SAM so I would likely have to wait until I can get a Zen3, right?

For most of these parts I'll be waiting until Black Friday to buy them. Especially things like the 970 Evo Plus went down by $30 on Prime Day and I'll see if I can save a few bucks on other parts too.

 

Would love to hear your suggestions on how to improve the build or what might not work etc.

 

Thank you!

 

[Stargaze obama]

5 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

Budget (including currency): Approx. €1000, can go a bit over if it makes a big difference. (6800 not included so real budget is 1600 I suppose)

Country:  Europe

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for:  AAA games, MS Flight Sim etc.

Other details, existing hardware: RX6800, 100Hz 1440p ultra wide, mouse & keyboard

 

Hey guys,

 

I managed to get my self an RX6800 on launch yesterday and now I'm looking for some help with the rest of the build.

Its my first build so I'm really unsure about compatibility and how to get the most out of the system.

 

Here is what I have so far:

 

[PCPartPicker Part List](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/HV9t3Z)

**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/g94BD3/amd-ryzen-5-5600x-37-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100000065box) | €349.00 
**Motherboard** | [MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/gwPgXL/msi-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi-atx-am4-motherboard-mpg-x570-gaming-edge-wifi) | €189.89 @ Alternate Belgium 
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18) | €63.90 
**Storage** | [Samsung 970 Evo Plus 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/Zxw7YJ/samsung-970-evo-plus-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-mz-v7s1t0bam) | €159.00 
**Video Card** | [ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/dXxbt6/asrock-radeon-rx-6800-16-gb-video-card-radeon-rx-6800-16g) | Purchased For €0.00 
**Case** | [Deepcool Gamer Storm MACUBE 550 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/szyqqs/deepcool-gamer-storm-macube-550-atx-mid-tower-case-macube-550-bk) | €94.00 
**Power Supply** | [EVGA G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply](https://be.pcpartpicker.com/product/RYH8TW/evga-g5-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g5-0750-x1) | €111.00 
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **€966.79**
 

N.B. The Motherboard having decent WiFi is unfortunately necessary in my apartment as I rely on Powerline adapters which cap at 80Mbs real download while my WiFi hits around 450Mbs.

 

My main concern is the availability of the 5600x. I haven't been able to find it anywhere since launch.

As this machine is purely for gaming, I would quite like to take advantage of the "Rage Mode" and SAM so I would likely have to wait until I can get a Zen3, right?

For most of these parts I'll be waiting until Black Friday to buy them. Especially things like the 970 Evo Plus went down by $30 on Prime Day and I'll see if I can save a few bucks on other parts too.

 

Would love to hear your suggestions on how to improve the build or what might not work etc.

 

Thank you!

 

To be honest you have made a really good build and everything seems completely fine with it, I would've looked at getting a 6800xt because of the larger heatsink and people overclocking it to 2.7ghz stable, but your build is perfectly fine, you could maybe look at some "better" memory with tighter timings, but that won't really make a huge difference in performance, enjoy your build, one of lucky few to get a 6800 and hope you get the 5600x, but 3000 ryzen is still a good buy if you can't

[boggy77]

don't get the x570 gaming edge, it has vrm overheating issues.

these are better options:

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI)

MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI

Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC

 

 

[SavageNeo]

Bad motherboard

bad case

overpriced ssd. 

try this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	€349.00
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	€137.05 @ Azerty
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	€63.90
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€141.00 @ Azerty
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card	Purchased For €0.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case	€77.95 @ Bytes At Work
Power Supply	EVGA G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€111.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€879.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 13:50 CET+0100

 

[VEXICUS]

Here's my recommendation..

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€349.00) 

Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€137.05 @ Azerty) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€96.00 @ Azerty) 

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 

Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (Purchased) 

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case (€82.99 @ Azerty) 

Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€93.02 @ Azerty) 

Total: €897.95

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 14:17 CET+0100

[Guest]

The Kingston A2000 1TB is cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€114.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Total: €114.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 14:28 CET+0100

[Cheesus182]

1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

The Kingston A2000 1TB is cheaper.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Storage: Kingston A2000 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€114.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Total: €114.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 14:28 CET+0100

This seems quite a bit slower than the Evo 970 Plus and the ADAPTA XPG?

[Cheesus182]

1 hour ago, VEXICUS said:

Here's my recommendation..

PCPartPicker Part List

 

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor (€349.00) 

Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard (€137.05 @ Azerty) 

Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory (€96.00 @ Azerty) 

Storage: Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (€139.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 

Video Card: ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card (Purchased) 

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case (€82.99 @ Azerty) 

Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply (€93.02 @ Azerty) 

Total: €897.95

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 14:17 CET+0100

Is there a reason for the slightly more expensive RAM? On the surface it looks somewhat identical but I assume there is a reason its a bit more expensive?

Also, is the 650w PSU good enough? I wasn't really sure how much I needed so went with the "middle ground"

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

This seems quite a bit slower than the Evo 970 Plus and the ADAPTA XPG?

You won't notice any difference in day to day usage for gaming.

[Cheesus182]

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

don't get the x570 gaming edge, it has vrm overheating issues.

these are better options:

Asus TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (WI-FI)

MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI

Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC

 

 

 

Thanks for the recommendation and for pointing out the flaw in that board.

Is there any actual difference between these 3 boards or is just largely down to aesthetics?

 

 

1 hour ago, SavageNeo said:

Bad motherboard

bad case

overpriced ssd. 

try this:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	€349.00
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	€137.05 @ Azerty
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory	€63.90
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€141.00 @ Azerty
Video Card	ASRock Radeon RX 6800 16 GB Video Card	Purchased For €0.00
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P400A ATX Mid Tower Case	€77.95 @ Bytes At Work
Power Supply	EVGA G5 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	€111.00
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€879.90
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-19 13:50 CET+0100

 

 

 

I only just realised you can multi quote so my bad.

 

 

@SavageNeo -

 

I'll definitely be picking up that SSD and most likely that case too. Thanks for that!

Isn't the B550-A a 450 with a fancy name though? While researching I stumbled upon a gamernexus post where he says:

 

Quote

First off, B550A, which has already been out and which we have covered, is not the same as B550. B550A is made only for OEMs and SIs (system integrators) for pre-built systems. The entire point of B550A was to basically get the number “500” onto the box to make it seem new. B550A is just B450. It’s identical. The only difference is that the name was changed for pre-built PC providers

 

[SavageNeo]

1 minute ago, Cheesus182 said:

Isn't the B550-A a 450 with a fancy name though?

No it is much better. Are you sure Nexus was not taling about asus prime b550-a?

 

msi b550-A pro can handle even 5950x

[boggy77]

15 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

Is there any actual difference between these 3 boards or is just largely down to aesthetics?

it's up to aesthetic, brand and what ports they have. pick the one that suits you best.

15 minutes ago, Cheesus182 said:

Isn't the B550-A a 450 with a fancy name though? While researching I stumbled upon a gamernexus post where he says:

GN was referring to a different thing, B550A chipsets from different manufacturers that were just rebranded b450 boards.

the msi b550-a pro is a legitimate b550 board. the dash "-" does make a difference here

[VEXICUS]

1 hour ago, Cheesus182 said:

Is there a reason for the slightly more expensive RAM? On the surface it looks somewhat identical but I assume there is a reason its a bit more expensive?

Also, is the 650w PSU good enough? I wasn't really sure how much I needed so went with the "middle ground"

The ram that I have listed above is 3600mhz cl16 and will perform better than 3600mhz cl18 ram that you have in your build.

 

 

Also, 650w should be plenty for that build and the PSU that I have mentioned is a tier A unit in the PSU tier list.

 

[Cheesus182]

@VEXICUS@boggy77@SavageNeo

 

So a bit of a strange question.

A buddy of mine just let me know that the store he bought his pre-built rig has the 5600x as well as the 3070 and 3080 in Stock.

Unfortunately they do not sell them individually and only sell full pre-built systems.

 

Checking their pricing, it looks really good though.

 

What would you think of one of these builds?

 

Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500

PSU: Corsair RM Series Modular RM850 - 850W

Motherboard: MSI B550-A Pro      OR      MSI B550M Pro-VDH WIFI     OR     ASUS Prime B550M-A WI-FI

CPU: Ryzen 5600x

RAM: 3000 MHz, 16GB from either Crucial, GSkill, Adata or Teamgroup (would possibly replace this depending on what they end up shipping)

Storage: None (I'll be buying the ADATA 1TB which was suggested here)

GPU: 3070FE     OR      3080FE

 

 

Total:  €1347 (3070)     OR     €1570 (3080)

 

 

What do you guys think? 

Overall I would prefer the 3070 over the 6800 due to DLSS but considering that the 3080 build would cost almost the same as my current 6800 build, I would likely choose that assuming the build is decent?

 

Thanks!

 

[boggy77]

not bad prices, the only issue is the 3000 ram, you want 3600-3800. and the asus prime -a is trash