Issues with "freezing" without crashing.

[bladefeb5]

Specs: 

i7-9700k

Asus Strix 2070S

Asus ROG Maximus XI Hero

G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 3200 2x8GB

Some Random Intel SSD That has no name on it 160GB (Boot Drive) 

Samsung 860 EVO 1TB SSD (Only games on it)

2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD (Only files and videos and such) 

Corsair CV650 Watt power supply

(No overclocking all drivers updated fully) 

 

Windows 10 Pro 64bit

 

 

 

 

Randomly my computer has been "freezing". It will not let you open any new applications or tabs on chrome. Will still make the sound that's playing but the video will pause. If I am playing a game the screen will go black and freeze. But I can still move my cursor around and interact with things. So it freezes like 90% of the computer and doesn't fix until I force shutdown and restart.

 

This has only been happening for the last two days. I think the last thing i've done is put in a new ssd but I have no clue how that would be causing it. (New Samsung EVO) My temps are normal cpu is around 50c and gpu stays at 37c. The only thing that is weird is around the time it happens my gpu memory clock seems to go down from the standard ~800mhz to 400mhz. Idk if that's something that would create this weird crashing or not and also do not know how I could stop it. Most of the computer is new fully rebuilt about 6 months ago. 

 

Any help would be great.

 

I included some pictures of my recordings.

https://imgur.com/a/hG92uGS

[Bombastinator]

Howdy and welcome

 

Temporary freeze or permanent(until reboot)?

Edited October 19, 2020 by Bombastinator

[bladefeb5]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Temporary freeze or permanent?

Permanent untill I force the pc to shutdown and then turn it back on. I've waited 2 hours for it before and nothing 

[Bombastinator]

21 minutes ago, bladefeb5 said:

Permanent untill I force the pc to shutdown and then turn it back on. I've waited 2 hours for it before and nothing 

the traditional most common (though not only) cause of computers crashing in mid run was memory(RAM or VRAM)  problems.  Lately PSU problems have become common as well due to the power spikes cause by modern chip boosting.

 

that normally makes the computer just go down though. The whole “sort of partially still running” might possibly be gpu? 
 

Does this happen if you run off your iGPU in your cpu?

[bladefeb5]

13 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

the traditional most common (though not only) cause of computers crashing in mid run was memory(RAM or VRAM)  problems.  Lately PSU problems have become common as well due to the power spikes cause by modern chip boosting.

 

that normally makes the computer just go down though. The whole “sort of partially still running” might possibly be gpu? 
 

Does this happen if you run off your iGPU in your cpu?

I havent triead with iGPU yet, sort of scared of taking apart the pc if I dont have to. I have had it running now with nothing up except watching westworld on it and its actually been stable and fine for about 3 hours now which leads me to believe it might be something with memory since my card is very new and my memory has been the same for years now. I feel like if it was a problem with the gpu I wouldnt be able to run videos and such for a extended piece of time? But if the memory is capping or dying after a certain threshold then maybe it could be that? 

[Bombastinator]

8 minutes ago, bladefeb5 said:

I havent triead with iGPU yet, sort of scared of taking apart the pc if I dont have to. I have had it running now with nothing up except watching westworld on it and its actually been stable and fine for about 3 hours now which leads me to believe it might be something with memory since my card is very new and my memory has been the same for years now. I feel like if it was a problem with the gpu I wouldnt be able to run videos and such for a extended piece of time? But if the memory is capping or dying after a certain threshold then maybe it could be that? 

Wouldn’t need to.  There should be a video port of some sort on the backplate.  Just attach the monitor to that.  Poof you have a totally new gpu to test with.  It’s a crappy one but it’s there. It won’t game for beans but it will run video just fine. 
 

the thing about video is it’s real real easy for computers to run. Phones can run video.  If you’ve got a memory problem in your gpu that’s fairly high in the stack it won’t show up until you hit that broken bit. 

Edited October 19, 2020 by Bombastinator

[bladefeb5]

20 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Wouldn’t need to.  There should be a video port of some sort on the backplate.  Just attach the monitor to that.  Poof you have a totally new gpu to test with.  It’s a crappy one but it’s there. It won’t game for beans but it will run video just fine. 
 

the thing about video is it’s real real easy for computers to run. Phones can run video.  If you’ve got a memory problem in your gpu that’s fairly high in the stack it won’t show up until you hit that broken bit. 

 

20 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Wouldn’t need to.  There should be a video port of some sort on the backplate.  Just attach the monitor to that.  Poof you have a totally new gpu to test with.  It’s a crappy one but it’s there. It won’t game for beans but it will run video just fine. 
 

the thing about video is it’s real real easy for computers to run. Phones can run video.  If you’ve got a memory problem in your gpu that’s fairly high in the stack it won’t show up until you hit that broken bit. 

Yeah it was just a guess, I've made it the longest of all today with just letting it run normally. I will try pushing it a little with a different game, It could be the game I was trying to play was messing something up in my computer somehow. I also have another set of ram I can put in and test aswell. 

[Bombastinator]

5 minutes ago, bladefeb5 said:

 

Yeah it was just a guess, I've made it the longest of all today with just letting it run normally. I will try pushing it a little with a different game, It could be the game I was trying to play was messing something up in my computer somehow. I also have another set of ram I can put in and test aswell. 

Wait... it was just a single game that did this?  Could be the game. Reinstall maybe?

[bladefeb5]

11 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Wait... it was just a single game that did this?  Could be the game. Reinstall maybe?

Im not sure if it was the game, since it froze up after I was finished playing. But maybe it could be tripping something. Im testing it with some other games now to see if it was just a game causing it or if its a bigger issue 

[bladefeb5]

A swap in RAM seemed to have fixed the problem, if not for the time being then forever. Been working so far after stress testing. Thank you to Bombastinator for helping! 

[Bombastinator]

Just now, bladefeb5 said:

A swap in RAM seemed to have fixed the problem, if not for the time being then forever. Been working so far after stress testing. Thank you to Bombastinator for helping! 

I got to help and I made a bad sheep pun! Yay!