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Upgrading old PC! Thoughts, recommendation?

ShawnKP
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I currently have my second PC that I built in 2014, and I think I'd benefit from upgrading this system. I do a lot of things with this system, from gaming (Wow, Minecraft, and recent titles such as AC-Odyssey, Control, Sekiro, ...) to workstation ( Adobe, VM). I currently have 3 monitors attached to this rig, two dell monitors (Dell - 27" LED QHD - 2560 x 1440 - 144Hz) and one AOC 2367.

 

Old System from 2014:

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Case: Antec Eleven Hundred Black Super Mid Tower Computer Case

Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V DELUXE LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K Quad-Core Processor 3.5 GHz 8 MB Cache LGA 1155 - BX80637I73770K

CPU C : Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan (RR-212E-20PK-R2)

GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 FTW HYBRID GAMING, 8GB GDDR5X, RGB LED, All-In-One Watercooling with 10CM FAN, 10 Power Phases, Double BIOS, DX12 OSD Support (P

Memory: (16BG) - (2X)  G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR

Hard Drive: (2X)  Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black 1 TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Internal Desktop 3.5" Hard Drive

SSD: Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E500B/AM)

PSU: FSP Group 650 Watt Power Supply 80 Plus Bronze (Raider 650)

 

 

 

For now, I'm only thinking about upgrading MB, CPU, Ram, SSD(NVME), and PSU if necessary. I have money for upgrading GPU but right now this one works, so I'm gonna hold on to it till next year to get another one. As for Ram, I prefer 32GB since from workload, it's up to 14-15GB consistently.

 

Budget (including currency): $800 - $1200 (If there is a build with cheaper price mark, even better.)

Country: USA

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Game: Any recent titles. Workstation: VM Rendering, and Adobe

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): Resolution 2K 1440p, refresh rate: 60-120

 

PCPartPicker Part List

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CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($486.85 @ bhphotovideo)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus ROG MAXIMUS XII HERO (WI-FI) ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($399.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($104.99 @ Adorama)
Total: $1219.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-17 15:11 EDT-0400

 

 

Looking forward to your thoughts, suggestions.

 

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“Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.”
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Wait for ryzen 4000. It's not too long anymore anyways.

 

Either way you are really overspending on the motherboard by 200$ easily. I would very much advice a new psu as the fsp is dated and would not be a bad idea to replace it especially when going with power hungry intel.

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Ryzen 4000, and go for an AIO, looks a lot better. Please, do not get that Mobo. Get something a little less expensive. But again, wait for R4000. Also, as @jaslion said, get a new 80+ gold PSU. Also, you may want to get new fans if that’s a 6 year old rig, unless you’ve upgraded them recently. There are plenty of options, I just picked up a three pack of QL120’s. L

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@jaslion @AzzaNezz I'm not in rush, so I can wait a little longer to purchase these parts. But right now, I'm just looking for my options, one with AMD build and another with Intel. What do you guys think about Gigabyte Z490 VISION G for motherboard?

 

@poorkidbuild I replaced all the fans inside the case with Noctua. As for PSU, what do you think about this one? SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Gold

As for AIO, I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

Thanks again guys for checking my topics.

“Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.”
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10 minutes ago, ShawnKP said:

@jaslion @AzzaNezz I'm not in rush, so I can wait a little longer to purchase these parts. But right now, I'm just looking for my options, one with AMD build and another with Intel. What do you guys think about Gigabyte Z490 VISION G for motherboard?

 

@poorkidbuild I replaced all the fans inside the case with Noctua. As for PSU, what do you think about this one? SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Gold

As for AIO, I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

Thanks again guys for checking my topics.

Aio's just don't last as long. If you would have originally gotten one for this pc you would already be on a second unit that depending on when the first failed could also be on it's way out. Aio's just don't really last too long which is why I prefer aircooling.

 

Also to save some money get a sycthe fuma 2. It's cheaper and better.

Psu wise that thing is overkill. You can easily grab 100w less. The reason I recommended the psu upgrade is because the psu you have is pretty low end and will struggle with delivering more power (that and the age does not help)

 

The board you linked is fine.

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29 minutes ago, ShawnKP said:

@jaslion @AzzaNezz I'm not in rush, so I can wait a little longer to purchase these parts. But right now, I'm just looking for my options, one with AMD build and another with Intel. What do you guys think about Gigabyte Z490 VISION G for motherboard?

 

@poorkidbuild I replaced all the fans inside the case with Noctua. As for PSU, what do you think about this one? SeaSonic PRIME Ultra Gold

As for AIO, I'll definitely look into it. Thanks for the recommendation.

 

Thanks again guys for checking my topics.

First of all, black noctua? And I would go to this list - 

This list provides a good amount of PSU’s, and rated from best to worst. Go to the mid range system section, and choose one that is gold.

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On 9/17/2020 at 4:48 PM, jaslion said:

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Thanks for the tip. As for sycthe, do you mean this one?

As for PSU W, Im just trying to be FP especially when I want to purchase new GPU or add more PCIE HD that need its own EP to run.

On 9/17/2020 at 5:10 PM, poorkidbuild said:

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Yes, both black noctua and reg exhaust one.  They're keeping the case under 30C.

Also thanks for the link, I checked it out and it was informative.

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I updated my list now based on what you guys recommended. Let me know what you guys think.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($486.85 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z490-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1100.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-18 19:14 EDT-0400

 

“Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.”
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24 minutes ago, ShawnKP said:

Thanks for the tip. As for sycthe, do you mean this one?

As for PSU W, Im just trying to be FP especially when I want to purchase new GPU or add more PCIE HD that need its own EP to run.

Yes, both black noctua and reg exhaust one.  They're keeping the case under 30C.

Also thanks for the link, I checked it out and it was informative.

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I updated my list now based on what you guys recommended. Let me know what you guys think.

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i9-10850K 3.6 GHz 10-Core Processor  ($486.85 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus PRIME Z490-A ATX LGA1200 Motherboard  ($214.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($138.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($59.99 @ Adorama)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($139.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1100.80
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-09-18 19:14 EDT-0400

 

Yup that is the sycthe.

For the psu just grab anything from the b tier or higher for the new system.

 

The psu is something you can grab at anytime really. The cooler I'd wait for the new ryzen cpu's as otherwise it's just gonna sit there doing nothing and if there is potentially a dead fan or something (rare but you can always be unlocky with a doa) your return period would have expired.

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On 9/17/2020 at 3:24 PM, jaslion said:

Wait for ryzen 4000. It's not too long anymore anyways.

 

Either way you are really overspending on the motherboard by 200$ easily. I would very much advice a new psu as the fsp is dated and would not be a bad idea to replace it especially when going with power hungry intel.

Agreed though if the article I read is correct they decided to change the number lineup for the next desktop CPUs to the 5000 series rather than go with the 4000s.

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8 hours ago, kyn1972 said:

Agreed though if the article I read is correct they decided to change the number lineup for the next desktop CPUs to the 5000 series rather than go with the 4000s.

Could be true could be false. I'm just going to stick to 4000 to avoid confusion about where is 4000 when I mention 5000.

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So, I did some modification to my list based on new AMD CPUs, and looking for some insight if this is good or not.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 3.7 GHz 12-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 4.0 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($93.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate Exos X14 12 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Storage: Seagate Exos X14 12 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 8 GB FTW3 HYBRID GAMING Video Card
Case: Antec Eleven Hundred V2 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $873.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-11-25 13:13 EST-0500

“Their morals, their code; it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. You'll see- I'll show you. When the chips are down these, uh, civilized people? They'll eat each other. See I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.”
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One question about PSU, should I still go with Corsair RM (2019) 750 or should I get Seasonic FOCUS PX-850, 850W 80+ Platinum instead?

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