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Questions about my i7 6700 non k 3.5 boost 4.0 with stock cooler and RAM

phil7990

Ok so I can't buy 1 of the 3000 series cards directly because I want to wait till the 3060's supers/ti's are out atleast and see what card I should get at the end of next year.

 

Now I wanted to prepare my system for a 3060-3070. or atleast I thought I had to since I thought the same thing as everyone else, I need a 4.0 gen for the graphics card to work.
Turns out it doesn't. The 3000 series can work perfectly on 3.0. Jayz said that it's more for the future but it's not for now. And by the time it's usable, people upgraded their systems by then surely...

BUT... Questions now are:
1) Is my i7 6700 with stock cooler going to hold back a 3060ti-3070ti?
2) For games such as DOOM Eternal on high, and other aaa games on high, do I need another CPU?
3) I currently have 2100 mhz 16 gig RAM DDR4, do I need to upgrade this for the above as well?

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5 minutes ago, phil7990 said:

1) Is my i7 6700 with stock cooler going to hold back a 3060ti-3070ti?

it will unless those GPUs turn out a lot worse than expected

 

5 minutes ago, phil7990 said:

2) For games such as DOOM Eternal on high, and other aaa games on high, do I need another CPU?

Playable sure, but you wont be fully using the GPU's performance without super high resolutions

 

6 minutes ago, phil7990 said:

3) I currently have 2100 mhz 16 gig RAM DDR4, do I need to upgrade this for the above as well?

Same answer as those for CPU, it will bottleneck at times.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Don't worry about bottlenecks. The only question you should ask is if the CPU can deliver the performance level you expect. It doesn't matter if there is unused GPU power in some situations, just as it doesn't matter if there is CPU power unused at times. You need enough CPU, and you need enough GPU for your performance target. 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays.
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

it will unless those GPUs turn out a lot worse than expected

 

Playable sure, but you wont be fully using the GPU's performance without super high resolutions

 

Same answer as those for CPU, it will bottleneck at times.

 

12 minutes ago, porina said:

Don't worry about bottlenecks. The only question you should ask is if the CPU can deliver the performance level you expect. It doesn't matter if there is unused GPU power in some situations, just as it doesn't matter if there is CPU power unused at times. You need enough CPU, and you need enough GPU for your performance target. 

Forgot to mention, I play on a 1080p 144hz monitor. I was planning on upgrading to either a 3600 or a 4000 series. But if the upgrade isn't needed directly, then I would maybe want to wait with it.

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1 minute ago, phil7990 said:

Forgot to mention, I play on a 1080p 144hz monitor. I was planning on upgrading to either a 3600 or a 4000 series. But if the upgrade isn't needed directly, then I would maybe want to wait with it.

From your profile, you're currently running an RX 580, is that correct? Presumably you currently have to balance quality settings against the frame rate you get. A faster GPU will at the least allow you to increase graphical quality settings. 

Gaming system: R7 7800X3D, Asus ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming Wifi, Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE ARGB, Corsair Vengeance 2x 32GB 6000C30, RTX 4070, MSI MPG A850G, Fractal Design North, Samsung 990 Pro 2TB, Acer Predator XB241YU 24" 1440p 144Hz G-Sync + HP LP2475w 24" 1200p 60Hz wide gamut
Productivity system: i9-7980XE, Asus X299 TUF mark 2, Noctua D15, 64GB ram (mixed), RTX 3070, NZXT E850, GameMax Abyss, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB, random 1080p + 720p displays.
Gaming laptop: Lenovo Legion 5, 5800H, RTX 3070, Kingston DDR4 3200C22 2x16GB 2Rx8, Kingston Fury Renegade 1TB + Crucial P1 1TB SSD, 165 Hz IPS 1080p G-Sync Compatible

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1 hour ago, porina said:

From your profile, you're currently running an RX 580, is that correct? Presumably you currently have to balance quality settings against the frame rate you get. A faster GPU will at the least allow you to increase graphical quality settings. 

I currently have:

-1080p 144hz display from LG

-Xfx rx 590 (2 years old)

-i7 6700 non k, Z170 gaming a, 2100 mhz 16 gb hyperx ram (5 years old)

-750w corsair bronze (7 years old)

-240gb kingston ssd (5 years old)

-1,5 tb hdd (10+ years old)

-case: aerocool gta white (yellow) with 4 fans (7 years old)

 

I don't have DOOM eternal yet so I can't test it.

 

Anyway, after what you have written and some friends of mine told me afterwards, its too risky. So I've decided that I will be upgrading my cpu but after what I have seen from the 4000 line up.

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