Preparing for RTX3080

[ToniChan]

I currently have a Dell Precision T1650 with an i7-3770 and GTX1060 6GB inside; my main use of this build is as a file server, deep learning workbench, and for occasional gaming. The only problem is the case is too small to fit a full length card... Now that the RTX3080 is near, I have decided to use it for more powerful computing. I have seen tutorials on uninstalling the disk mounts, but I have two 3.5 inch HDDs so I have to reserve the space for them...

 

Thus I decided to buy a larger workstation (which is a Dell Precision T3610 with Xeon E5-1650v2) but I can't decide on how to make the old PC ready to sell. I have found GTX1050s and other GTX1060s for sale at $100, so that I can install one to my current PC, send them away, and keep my current GTX1060; however I have also seen people selling RTX2080s because the RTX3080 is out. Since there will definitely some interim period before RTX3080 is widely available, I still need a proper GPU to carry on with my current tasks. Should I take those more entry-level ones and send them away, or should I save an 2080 for my new build and use it for a little while before I can buy a 3080?

[Quickstrike]

3 minutes ago, ToniChan said:

I currently have a Dell Precision T1650 with an i7-3770 and GTX1060 6GB inside; my main use of this build is as a file server, deep learning workbench, and for occasional gaming. The only problem is the case is too small to fit a full length card... Now that the RTX3080 is near, I have decided to use it for more powerful computing. I have seen tutorials on uninstalling the disk mounts, but I have two 3.5 inch HDDs so I have to reserve the space for them...

 

Thus I decided to buy a larger workstation (which is a Dell Precision T3610 with Xeon E5-1650v2) but I can't decide on how to make the old PC ready to sell. I have found GTX1050s and other GTX1060s for sale at $100, so that I can install one to my current PC, send them away, and keep my current GTX1060; however I have also seen people selling RTX2080s because the RTX3080 is out. Since there will definitely some interim period before RTX3080 is widely available, I still need a proper GPU to carry on with my current tasks. Should I take those more entry-level ones and send them away, or should I save an 2080 for my new build and use it for a little while before I can buy a 3080?

RTX 3080 is not out yet... 11 days to go.

Because Nvidia announced super low prices on extreme improvement, there is a paniced fire sales going on.

It's a buyer's market on the used side. I'd say if you play your cards right, you could could nab a used RTX 2080 for about 300-350 $US. That will more than double you GPU power and the poor lad (or lass) selling it will take a 50% depreciation... Right now they sell at around 800$

[cm992]

Why would you buy another Dell Precision? Why not get a Ryzen 3000 or 4000 with the RTX 3080 and once you have that then sell your current Dell Precision as is.

[ToniChan]

Just now, cpm9 said:

Why would you buy another Dell Precision? Why not get a Ryzen 3000 or 4000 with the RTX 3080 and once you have that then sell your current Dell Precision as is.

1. Used Dell Precisions can be as cheap as $160 with a proper CPU and some memory; my current setup has 32GB DDR3, so I would like to keep these sticks

2. I'd like to make my build run 24/7, so business solutions would be better compared to consumer ones

3. I don't like the designs of contemporary PC cases, not any of them 

4. Ryzens are good, but my workload is not that pressurized on the CPU side. My current setup runs no slower than the AWS servers that I can rent for 0.6 dollars an hour, so CPU is not the bottleneck; Choosing the 1650v2 is enough

[ToniChan]

9 minutes ago, Quickstrike said:

RTX 3080 is not out yet... 11 days to go.

Because Nvidia announced super low prices on extreme improvement, there is a paniced fire sales going on.

It's a buyer's market on the used side. I'd say if you play your cards right, you could could nab a used RTX 2080 for about 300-350 $US. That will more than double you GPU power and the poor lad (or lass) selling it will take a 50% depreciation... Right now they sell at around 800$

Good point. I think I'm getting a 2080Ti (not only 2080S) because I hope to get as large GPU memory size as possible. Maybe I should expect some $500~600 sellers to come out, given that 3070s are $499, same power but only has 8GB?

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5 minutes ago, ToniChan said:

Good point. I think I'm getting a 2080Ti (not only 2080S) because I hope to get as large GPU memory size as possible. Maybe I should expect some $500~600 sellers to come out, given that 3070s are $499, same power but only has 8GB?

Better power*

The 3070 has more cuda core, has better preformance in RTX (acording to nvidia)

[cm992]

16 minutes ago, ToniChan said:

1. Used Dell Precisions can be as cheap as $160 with a proper CPU and some memory; my current setup has 32GB DDR3, so I would like to keep these sticks

2. I'd like to make my build run 24/7, so business solutions would be better compared to consumer ones

3. I don't like the designs of contemporary PC cases, not any of them 

4. Ryzens are good, but my workload is not that pressurized on the CPU side. My current setup runs no slower than the AWS servers that I can rent for 0.6 dollars an hour, so CPU is not the bottleneck; Choosing the 1650v2 is enough

Well there are plenty of minimalist steel cases for cheap wihthout rgb or glass panels. You could get a Ryzen 3 3100 (4 core 8 thread) or a Ryzen 3 4000 series when they come out, they aren't expensive. And 32GB of DDR4 3200MHz isn't that expensive either. Just a thought.

[igormp]

1 hour ago, ToniChan said:

I currently have a Dell Precision T1650 with an i7-3770 and GTX1060 6GB inside; my main use of this build is as a file server, deep learning workbench, and for occasional gaming. The only problem is the case is too small to fit a full length card... Now that the RTX3080 is near, I have decided to use it for more powerful computing. I have seen tutorials on uninstalling the disk mounts, but I have two 3.5 inch HDDs so I have to reserve the space for them...

 

Thus I decided to buy a larger workstation (which is a Dell Precision T3610 with Xeon E5-1650v2) but I can't decide on how to make the old PC ready to sell. I have found GTX1050s and other GTX1060s for sale at $100, so that I can install one to my current PC, send them away, and keep my current GTX1060; however I have also seen people selling RTX2080s because the RTX3080 is out. Since there will definitely some interim period before RTX3080 is widely available, I still need a proper GPU to carry on with my current tasks. Should I take those more entry-level ones and send them away, or should I save an 2080 for my new build and use it for a little while before I can buy a 3080?

The models you're building can make use of FP16? If so, I'd try to grab a 2080ti for less than $500, since it has more vram and tensor cores than a 3070. Otherwise, a 3080 may be better, not like 1gb of vram would allow you to have that much bigger batch sizes.

 

Why not just sell the older precision without the GPU, keep the 1060 for a while, then sell it after you get a better card?

[ToniChan]

5 minutes ago, igormp said:

The models you're building can make use of FP16? If so, I'd try to grab a 2080ti for less than $500, since it has more vram and tensor cores than a 3070. Otherwise, a 3080 may be better, not like 1gb of vram would allow you to have that much bigger batch sizes.

 

Why not just sell the older precision without the GPU, keep the 1060 for a while, then sell it after you get a better card?

It can (which is why I didn't take the 3600). I'm thinking that maybe nobody locally would want such a machine without a GPU...

 

Definitely considering between 2080Ti or 3080, and nothing else

[igormp]

46 minutes ago, ToniChan said:

It can (which is why I didn't take the 3600). I'm thinking that maybe nobody locally would want such a machine without a GPU...

 

Definitely considering between 2080Ti or 3080, and nothing else

The 3080 should be better than the 2080ti for DL, I guess.

 

As for the machine, try to list it without the GPU and see if you get any offers. If you don't get anything, then try to list it with the GPU.

[GDRRiley]

3 hours ago, Quickstrike said:

Because Nvidia announced super low prices on extreme improvement, there is a paniced fire sales going on.

there aren't going to be any stock for 3000 GPUs till Q1.

[ToniChan]

46 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

there aren't going to be any stock for 3000 GPUs till Q1.

The stock would be quite limited in the quarter to come; that's exactly what I mean the "interim"

[ToniChan]

Update: Sold the whole set together, got an 2080ti for $600 for the time being

[igormp]

6 hours ago, ToniChan said:

Update: Sold the whole set together, got an 2080ti for $600 for the time being

Maybe you can try to look for another 2080ti later on instead of a 3080. 22gb of vram would be sweet.