Problema static Pc

[Guest]

You need Earth ground. 

 

You're powering a PC.  Not a lamp. 

[juan_tgn]

32 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

i recommend trying that PC somewhere else that u know has better wiring before spending money on a board

but up to you

Tomorrow I will try that option, I will move the pc with the plate and the source to the part of the house that theoretically has an earth connection (at least the cable is in the kitchen) and if I see that it does not happen, I will see how I put the earth,  If it keeps happening I will suppose that it is normal then no?

[juan_tgn]

4 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

You need Earth ground. 

 

You're powering a PC.  Not a lamp. 

The problem is that the room where it is, is a new surface installation since it had no electricity and the electricity meter does not have a ground connection (one that the owner said was installed but I don't know where the entrance is).  The kitchen has theory, since those plugs have the earth cable so I suppose it will be connected wherever it is, if it continues to happen, I will think it is normal or I am, if it does not happen I will see what I do, since it is a first high  and I have no place to install it, I have seen that they sell this I do not know if it will be worth

[Moonzy]

8 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

You need Earth ground. 

You're powering a PC.  Not a lamp. 

is there a good link to read up what might cause the tingly feel when earth isnt connected?

or a proper google term

4 minutes ago, juan_tgn said:

If it keeps happening I will suppose that it is normal then no?

even if it's normal to see this happen on non-earth connected PC, doesnt mean it's good for it.

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Moonzy said:

is there a good link to read up what might cause the tingly feel when earth isnt connected?

or a proper google term

even if it's normal to see this happen on non-earth connected PC, doesnt mean it's good for it.

But it also means the surge protection in the PSU won't work either. 

[juan_tgn]

8 minutes ago, jonnyGURU said:

But it also means the surge protection in the PSU won't work either. 

I tried my wife's psu which is a rmx 750 corsair and it also happens with it, I will try the grounding in the kitchen, because if it continues to happen in the kitchen, I will think that it is normal or that the motherboard creates a bypass  Of electricity

[Guest]

1 hour ago, juan_tgn said:

@Moonzy

@ShrimpBrime

 

I put a video of my problem, sorry for my English is bad, very very bad
pd:also being plugged in I notice some static on the graphics card and on the back of the processor but I think that is normal

 

https://youtu.be/Gte4rsGRk0U

 

English is good. I can understand you very well.

 

It's only the top of the case when the Cpu power is connected. Right? 

 

Be sure the stand-off for the motherboard are in the correct positions for the holes in the motheboard is all I can think of.

If there is a stand off touching a powered solder joint, this could create this problem.

[juan_tgn]

8 hours ago, ShrimpBrime said:

English is good. I can understand you very well.

 

It's only the top of the case when the Cpu power is connected. Right? 

 

Be sure the stand-off for the motherboard are in the correct positions for the holes in the motheboard is all I can think of.

If there is a stand off touching a powered solder joint, this could create this problem.

Yes, it is only that part, the rest of the box does not give static, only the top part, that part goes with screws, but they are hidden, it is almost impossible for it to touch something on the PC, due to the tests that I have carried out, it is in  the area of the usb connectors, audio etc, when fitting it into the box is when it happens (to a one that is logical if it is loose it would not happen XD)
 

tests carried out so far:

I disassembled the entire PC and only left the motherboard and passed

 I tried to change the Source cables and passed

I tried to change my psu for another and the same thing happened

I tried to connect only the motherboard with the cable  8-pin power supply and the same thing happens

 

my theory:

Or is it normal, because it sounds to me that this has happened to me for a long, long time

 

the motherboard has some derivation and causes that

 

the aliens try to contact me in some way

 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, juan_tgn said:

Yes, it is only that part, the rest of the box does not give static, only the top part, that part goes with screws, but they are hidden, it is almost impossible for it to touch something on the PC, due to the tests that I have carried out, it is in  the area of the usb connectors, audio etc, when fitting it into the box is when it happens (to a one that is logical if it is loose it would not happen XD)
 

tests carried out so far:

I disassembled the entire PC and only left the motherboard and passed

 I tried to change the Source cables and passed

I tried to change my psu for another and the same thing happened

I tried to connect only the motherboard with the cable  8-pin power supply and the same thing happens

 

my theory:

Or is it normal, because it sounds to me that this has happened to me for a long, long time

 

the motherboard has some derivation and causes that

 

the aliens try to contact me in some way

 

Well, it's not normal.... for you maybe normal...

Probably not Aliens, but weirder shit has happened.

 

Maybe set up the board outside the case and maybe plug in the power.

Feel around the mainboard mount screw areas and see if you get static electricity from the board to try and locate the source.

Just be careful ok?

[juan_tgn]

59 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Well, it's not normal.... for you maybe normal...

Probably not Aliens, but weirder shit has happened.

 

Maybe set up the board outside the case and maybe plug in the power.

Feel around the mainboard mount screw areas and see if you get static electricity from the board to try and locate the source.

Just be careful ok?

Aliens speak me 

 

I have connected the Pc (only motherboard in the box with the supply and the 8-pin power cable) to a section of the house that has "ground" (theory) and does not give me the feeling of "tingling" in  the top of the case, so I guess the motherboard has some tap or something and the ground takes it away (to a that if the motherboard has a tap it means something is wrong right?)

[Guest]

1 hour ago, juan_tgn said:

Aliens speak me 

 

I have connected the Pc (only motherboard in the box with the supply and the 8-pin power cable) to a section of the house that has "ground" (theory) and does not give me the feeling of "tingling" in  the top of the case, so I guess the motherboard has some tap or something and the ground takes it away (to a that if the motherboard has a tap it means something is wrong right?)

Need a different mother board or PSU to test with. 

[juan_tgn]

1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Need a different mother board or PSU to test with. 

The psu I tried my wife's with my motherboard and the same thing happens, I think I'll look to take another motherboard, I had thought the z390 aorus pro

[-iSynthesis]

I agree with the others, do NOT touch any of your hardware at this state. Feeling static means there's a lot of voltage in place, which might knock out a few components.

Using a PC without a ground is not a good idea, appliance classes exist for a good reason. Using a Class 1 device without ground is turning it into a Class 2 device, which are required to have a case that is isolated from the rest of the components.

Please spend the money on proper electrics (getting a ground in this case).

 

Missing ground is most likely the cause of this, 

5 hours ago, juan_tgn said:

I have connected the Pc (only motherboard in the box with the supply and the 8-pin power cable) to a section of the house that has "ground" (theory) and does not give me the feeling of "tingling" in  the top of the case, so I guess the motherboard has some tap or something and the ground takes it away (to a that if the motherboard has a tap it means something is wrong right?)

especially with the tingling going away when grounded.

 

The case is supposed to carry the ground, which is why the motherboard is connected via metal screws and standoffs to the case. Meaning if there's no ground connected the case will carry a higher potential, it doesn't mean the motherboard is defective in some way.

 

Edit: Also, try with the PSU installed in the case. Might change some things, just guessing though

[juan_tgn]

17 hours ago, -iSynthesis said:

I agree with the others, do NOT touch any of your hardware at this state. Feeling static means there's a lot of voltage in place, which might knock out a few components.

Using a PC without a ground is not a good idea, appliance classes exist for a good reason. Using a Class 1 device without ground is turning it into a Class 2 device, which are required to have a case that is isolated from the rest of the components.

Please spend the money on proper electrics (getting a ground in this case).

 

Missing ground is most likely the cause of this, 

especially with the tingling going away when grounded.

 

The case is supposed to carry the ground, which is why the motherboard is connected via metal screws and standoffs to the case. Meaning if there's no ground connected the case will carry a higher potential, it doesn't mean the motherboard is defective in some way.

 

Edit: Also, try with the PSU installed in the case. Might change some things, just guessing though

I just installed the new motherboard and the same thing happens to me T-T, so I think the box must make some derivation to me somewhere

[juan_tgn]

Derivación test

 

this is my derivation, I do not know if it is a lot or a little, does anyone know any way to make a home ground connection?

[-iSynthesis]

On 9/6/2020 at 9:54 AM, juan_tgn said:

Derivación test

 

this is my derivation, I do not know if it is a lot or a little, does anyone know any way to make a home ground connection?

Between what did you take this measurement? Which two components? 

For home ground connections please don't do stuff on your own, let a professional electrician do it for you. Depending on which country you live in it might even be illegal to do it yourself.

Don't forget to quote @juan_tgn people so they see that you've written something

[juan_tgn]

12 hours ago, -iSynthesis said:

Between what did you take this measurement? Which two components? 

For home ground connections please don't do stuff on your own, let a professional electrician do it for you. Depending on which country you live in it might even be illegal to do it yourself.

Don't forget to quote @juan_tgn people so they see that you've written something

Well, I took it continuously, in the box, I already changed many components and it happens to all, it is the box that somewhere and I do not find out where it leads me and that is why it gives some static at the top, because it looks for ground and  I have no land.  Well, I spoke with an electrician and he told me that from a ground wire that I have in a lid in the kitchen, I can connect it to connect it to the ground of my room without problem, that I verify that it is 100% ground with the appliance (what does not happen  electric current) and if 0 comes out it is always ground.