2060 Super to 3070/3080?

[XILEGEND]

I was looking to potentially sell my evga XC Ultra RTX 2060s to pick up a 3070 or maybe even a 3080. I dont intend on upgrading my motherboard which wont be able to take advantage of the PCIe 4 (using ASUS PRIME Z270-A). Im not really sure how much performance i would be losing due to that. I would appreciate your opinion on whether its worth getting rid of my current card to upgrade to the 3070/80. 

 

Still rocking an i7-7700k which ik is a little out of date so im unsure if the processor would bottleneck these new cards to any extent. 

 

Thanks for taking the time to read

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, XILEGEND said:

Im not really sure how much performance i would be losing due to that

we still don't have the reviews yet

[Alex Ushigome]

Q: Should I upgrade?

• A: Can you afford it? Do you not have better places to spend the money? Will you gain any real benefits from upgrading? Will you be able to feed your family if you buy it? Upgrade only if you can answer all of these with yes.

Q: Will I need PCI Gen4 to run the new cards?

• A: No, according to NVIDIA the difference between Gen 3 and gen 4 is minimal for the cards. It may well be, however, that gen 4 SSD's with their faster speeds make your card perform faster due to RTX I/O. However, as before. We do not actually know how this will affect performance yet. Wait for Benchmarks!

Q: Is CPU X good enough not to bottleneck the new RTX 3000 cards?

1. First off, bottleneck is not a great term to be using here. A bottleneck in the strictest sense exists in every system. The slowest component in the chain between CPU, RAM, Storage Medium, Chipset and GPU will always hold the others back from performing at the pinnacle of their ability. ALWAYS. However whether you experience any bottlenecks that severely hamper your performance depends on many factors. How many programs are running in the background, what program am I running and quantum mumbojumbo happening elsewhere in the universe. Aka random factors. There just isn't a yes or no answer to this question. What you are actually asking is: how much FPS will i lose with this CPU compared to a 10900K, and under conventional wisdom this depends on your chosen resolution! Right now your CPU matters most at 1080p, less at 1440p and even less at 4k however this may not necessarily be true for the 3000 series. 
2. Second, we just do not know. Even conjecture based on how the 2000 series performed with certain CPU's as above, is just a guess at this point. Nvidia's new RTX I/O may change this completely. Like the PS4 the flow of assets to your GPU has been changed radically allowing for theorethically much greater performance while bypassing the CPU. It may well be that this changes the load from your CPU to your SSD, it may well be that your motherboard chipset becomes the deciding factor and it may well be that AMD systems with GEN 4 PCI-E hold the deciding advantage regardless of which CPU. Or this may end up not having as big an effect as it seems it might. We have no data to tell you so you will just have to wait for benchmarks. Any other answer is a GUESS at best. 

See https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1242321-the-rtx-3000-faq-check-this-first/

[HardStroke]

30 minutes ago, XILEGEND said:

I was looking to potentially sell my evga XC Ultra RTX 2060s to pick up a 3070 or maybe even a 3080. I dont intend on upgrading my motherboard which wont be able to take advantage of the PCIe 4 (using ASUS PRIME Z270-A). Im not really sure how much performance i would be losing due to that. I would appreciate your opinion on whether its worth getting rid of my current card to upgrade to the 3070/80. 

 

Still rocking an i7-7700k which ik is a little out of date so im unsure if the processor would bottleneck these new cards to any extent. 

 

Thanks for taking the time to read

pretty sure the 7700k will bottleneck a 3080

it is a 4/8 cpu after all...

but its just a theory, we will know after the benchmarks

[XILEGEND]

3 hours ago, Alex Ushigome said:

Q: Should I upgrade?

• A: Can you afford it? Do you not have better places to spend the money? Will you gain any real benefits from upgrading? Will you be able to feed your family if you buy it? Upgrade only if you can answer all of these with yes.

Q: Will I need PCI Gen4 to run the new cards?

• A: No, according to NVIDIA the difference between Gen 3 and gen 4 is minimal for the cards. It may well be, however, that gen 4 SSD's with their faster speeds make your card perform faster due to RTX I/O. However, as before. We do not actually know how this will affect performance yet. Wait for Benchmarks!

Q: Is CPU X good enough not to bottleneck the new RTX 3000 cards?

1. First off, bottleneck is not a great term to be using here. A bottleneck in the strictest sense exists in every system. The slowest component in the chain between CPU, RAM, Storage Medium, Chipset and GPU will always hold the others back from performing at the pinnacle of their ability. ALWAYS. However whether you experience any bottlenecks that severely hamper your performance depends on many factors. How many programs are running in the background, what program am I running and quantum mumbojumbo happening elsewhere in the universe. Aka random factors. There just isn't a yes or no answer to this question. What you are actually asking is: how much FPS will i lose with this CPU compared to a 10900K, and under conventional wisdom this depends on your chosen resolution! Right now your CPU matters most at 1080p, less at 1440p and even less at 4k however this may not necessarily be true for the 3000 series. 
2. Second, we just do not know. Even conjecture based on how the 2000 series performed with certain CPU's as above, is just a guess at this point. Nvidia's new RTX I/O may change this completely. Like the PS4 the flow of assets to your GPU has been changed radically allowing for theorethically much greater performance while bypassing the CPU. It may well be that this changes the load from your CPU to your SSD, it may well be that your motherboard chipset becomes the deciding factor and it may well be that AMD systems with GEN 4 PCI-E hold the deciding advantage regardless of which CPU. Or this may end up not having as big an effect as it seems it might. We have no data to tell you so you will just have to wait for benchmarks. Any other answer is a GUESS at best. 

Thanks! About as quality of an answer as i could have asked for. The graph comparing the cards got me hyped and wanting to impulse pre order the card asap lol. Makes sense to just wait for the benchmarks like u said to make a decision from there. Really hoping itll be a simple gpu swap and no need for any other replacements

[Alex Ushigome]

16 minutes ago, XILEGEND said:

Thanks! About as quality of an answer as i could have asked for. The graph comparing the cards got me hyped and wanting to impulse pre order the card asap lol. Makes sense to just wait for the benchmarks like u said to make a decision from there. Really hoping itll be a simple gpu swap and no need for any other replacements

I literally copy and pasted it from the FAQ, I feel bad if I was to take credit.

3 hours ago, HardStroke said:

pretty sure the 7700k will bottleneck a 3080

it is a 4/8 cpu after all...

but its just a theory, we will know after the benchmarks

Quad core is still plenty powerful. It depends on resolution. Definitely at 1080p, but at 4k the bottleneck will still be the GPU.