Upgrading an OEM PC

[sonip120]

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: Kenya

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details (

PC: Pre-Built HP Pro 3500 mATX tower

CPU: i7-2770

Memory: 4GB of Crucial DDR3 1200

MOBO: Not sure but i guess its a proprietary H61

PSU: 200W shitty OEM PSU

Video Card: Integrated Intel HD 2000 Graphics

 

I am looking into building my first PC but I have a few issues.

- I live in Kenya so shipping parts is super expensive

-I Also am looking for a new monitor (its a 1080p 60hz monitor from HP) but im not sure if i should get one now at the cost of performance

-Also have a working stock HP mechanical keyboard and a logitech gl502 mouse

 

This is what im planning as an upgrade

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard: Asrock B550m

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600
Storage: Crucial MX500 250GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD,
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2070 (but i can wait for a 3070)
Case: Coolermaster Masterbox Q300L
Power Supply: EVGA 110-BQ-0600-K1 600 BQ, 80+ Bronze 600W, Semi Modular
Case Fan: Kingwin 120mm CF-012LB Silent Fan

 

Should I keep my current HP desktop and upgrade it in piecemeal as I work up to replacing it completely or should I buy it all outright

Also any decent shipping companies to Kenya from the US is much appreciated ( or from anywhere else that is cheaper)

 

[Bombastinator]

This machine? https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03364089

[VeganJoy]

18 minutes ago, sonip120 said:

Budget (including currency): $1000

Country: Kenya

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Gaming

Other details (

PC: Pre-Built HP Pro 3500 mATX tower

CPU: i7-2770

Memory: 4GB of Crucial DDR3 1200

MOBO: Not sure but i guess its a proprietary H61

PSU: 200W shitty OEM PSU

Video Card: Integrated Intel HD 2000 Graphics

 

I am looking into building my first PC but I have a few issues.

- I live in Kenya so shipping parts is super expensive

-I Also am looking for a new monitor (its a 1080p 60hz monitor from HP) but im not sure if i should get one now at the cost of performance

-Also have a working stock HP mechanical keyboard and a logitech gl502 mouse

 

This is what im planning as an upgrade

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard: Asrock B550m

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600
Storage: Crucial MX500 250GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD,
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Video Card: MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 2070 (but i can wait for a 3070)
Case: Coolermaster Masterbox Q300L
Power Supply: EVGA 110-BQ-0600-K1 600 BQ, 80+ Bronze 600W, Semi Modular
Case Fan: Kingwin 120mm CF-012LB Silent Fan

 

Should I keep my current HP desktop and upgrade it in piecemeal as I work up to replacing it completely or should I buy it all outright

Also any decent shipping companies to Kenya from the US is much appreciated ( or from anywhere else that is cheaper)

 

dunno about reshippers but if you wanna buy everything all like that then you should probably just skip the prebuilt lol. i'd suggest getting a cheap ssd like the kingston a400 or team gx2 for your os, and an arctic p12 would be quieter/higher airflow than the kingwin at a similar price. if you dont feel like waiting a few months for 30xx cards to be reliably in stock you can get a really good deal on used cards rn as everyone with a 10xx/20xx card is panic selling. and this cougar case would be better for space and future upgrades if you dont need the smaller footprint of the q300l, also tempered glass instead of acrylic https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhjJ7P/cougar-mx330-g-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g

[VeganJoy]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

This machine? https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03364089

dodge that crappy machine unless its like free lol, hows the used market in kenya? a cheap optiplex would be cheaper and a lot better if you wanted to go that route for whatever reason. if youre not just plugging in a low profile card and calling it a day its not generally worth messing with prebuilts like that

[sonip120]

16 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

This machine? https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03364089

Yup that is the one

 

[sonip120]

12 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

dodge that crappy machine unless its like free lol, hows the used market in kenya? a cheap optiplex would be cheaper and a lot better if you wanted to go that route for whatever reason. if youre not just plugging in a low profile card and calling it a day its not generally worth messing with prebuilts like that

The used enthusiast market and the enthusiast PC market in general is quite non-existent as it is a very luxury item to have(people mainly look for pre builts or laptops here)

As for the crappy machine it is my main driver and gaming pc so i already own it 

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, sonip120 said:

The used enthusiast market and the enthusiast PC market in general is quite non-existent as it is a very luxury item to have(people mainly look for pre builts or laptops here)

As for the crappy machine it is my main driver and gaming pc so i already own it 

None the less it may not be upgradable.  It would make more sense to leave it in one piece while building the new machine then sell it. There is very very little that is usable for a new machine in it.

[sonip120]

18 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

dunno about reshippers but if you wanna buy everything all like that then you should probably just skip the prebuilt lol. i'd suggest getting a cheap ssd like the kingston a400 or team gx2 for your os, and an arctic p12 would be quieter/higher airflow than the kingwin at a similar price. if you dont feel like waiting a few months for 30xx cards to be reliably in stock you can get a really good deal on used cards rn as everyone with a 10xx/20xx card is panic selling. and this cougar case would be better for space and future upgrades if you dont need the smaller footprint of the q300l, also tempered glass instead of acrylic https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zhjJ7P/cougar-mx330-g-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330-g

Thanks for the suggestions. As for the 30 series cards the reason i picked that is mainly coz i dont want to upgrade for a long long time, also the main reason i wanna build this pc is for Cyberpunk 2077 (need those ray traced hard) as well as i dont have the choice of sending defective parts back so im kinda hesitant about the second hand market as this is my first build

[sonip120]

3 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

None the less it may not be upgradable.  It would make more sense to leave it in one piece while building the new machine then sell it. There is very very little that is usable for a new machine in it.

I guess I can try my luck but would there even be anyone willing to buy a CPU that still uses VGA as an output

[Bombastinator]

7 minutes ago, sonip120 said:

I guess I can try my luck but would there even be anyone willing to buy a CPU that still uses VGA as an output

I dunno.  I don’t live in your country.  It’s actually more powerful than some currently selling laptops.  It would still be useful for email and web browsing and watching videos. You said it was a luxury device where you are.  As a non gaming machine it would be less luxurious certainly. Vga converts to hdmi easily enough

[VeganJoy]

35 minutes ago, sonip120 said:

The used enthusiast market and the enthusiast PC market in general is quite non-existent as it is a very luxury item to have(people mainly look for pre builts or laptops here)

As for the crappy machine it is my main driver and gaming pc so i already own it 

 

30 minutes ago, sonip120 said:

Thanks for the suggestions. As for the 30 series cards the reason i picked that is mainly coz i dont want to upgrade for a long long time, also the main reason i wanna build this pc is for Cyberpunk 2077 (need those ray traced hard) as well as i dont have the choice of sending defective parts back so im kinda hesitant about the second hand market as this is my first build

dang rip, would it help if someone personally reshipped some parts for ya? im sure someone here would be willing to help you out, theyd get some used parts in, test em, and reship them to you. i dont have any rep here but i have several dozen trades over on reddit and i've got a spare 3600 with a b450m pro4, plus a case but that might be prohibitively expensive to ship. i think you can insure international orders so the risk might not be too high.

 

as for cyberpunk, i was also looking at getting a gpu to do raytracing for that lol. are there good side-by-side comparisons between the best possible rasterized graphics and raytraced?

[sonip120]

15 hours ago, VeganJoy said:

 

dang rip, would it help if someone personally reshipped some parts for ya? im sure someone here would be willing to help you out, theyd get some used parts in, test em, and reship them to you. i dont have any rep here but i have several dozen trades over on reddit and i've got a spare 3600 with a b450m pro4, plus a case but that might be prohibitively expensive to ship. i think you can insure international orders so the risk might not be too high.

 

as for cyberpunk, i was also looking at getting a gpu to do raytracing for that lol. are there good side-by-side comparisons between the best possible rasterized graphics and raytraced?

i dont mind shipping but if possible i would love to get your reddit handle so we can discuss in further detail