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Poor performance from RTX 2080 possible hardware bottleneck?

Howdy all,
 

Hardware noob here but just wanted to get some feedback on a possible performance bottleneck i think i may have with my RTX 2080. Don't feel like I am getting the performance from the card i should be. I've upgraded from a GTX 1070 which i feel performed decently better in games like Destiny 2 and The Division 2 for example. The rest of my PC is on the older side but don't feel like the hardware would cause this much of a performance decrease. Just wanted to get some thoughts and options for possible troubleshooting. 

Current specs are
Intel Core i7-6700 (U3E1, 1 CPU, 4 cores, 8 threads, Base clock 3.4 GHz, turbo 3.7 GH)

Nvidia RTX 2080 - Gigabyte(1458 37B3) ≥ 4GB

16GB DIMM DDR4 clocked @ 2133 MHz

Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 - Mother board

650x Corsair PSU (80 plus Gold)
 


I've had successfully OCd the card and had improved performance with the two attached images but from the research i've online, users with the same card running similar games at higher resolutions are getting the same if not better results. I've also recently tried hooking up the GPU with two seperate PCIe cables from the PSU which didn't seem to have any effect on the benchmarks. All my drivers are updates to the most recent using GEforce experience too. 

Any suggestions would be great, thanks :D

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I am not too familiar with MSI Kombustor - Isn't it a GPU only Benchmark?


If so (at least) in theory, your CPU shouldn't be able to bottleneck.

And when comparing to online results, don't look at the top results, these are mostly held by hardcore Overclockers or SLI configurations.. Maybe try comparing to a more "midrange" result.


If you are still not happy with your GPU performance: After changing Graphic Cards I tend to DDU the drive and install them cleanly, this might be worth a shot.

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1 hour ago, Bus Money said:

Howdy all,
 

Hardware noob here but just wanted to get some feedback on a possible performance bottleneck i think i may have with my RTX 2080. Don't feel like I am getting the performance from the card i should be. I've upgraded from a GTX 1070 which i feel performed decently better in games like Destiny 2 and The Division 2 for example. The rest of my PC is on the older side but don't feel like the hardware would cause this much of a performance decrease. Just wanted to get some thoughts and options for possible troubleshooting. 

Current specs are
Intel Core i7-6700 (U3E1, 1 CPU, 4 cores, 8 threads, Base clock 3.4 GHz, turbo 3.7 GH)

Nvidia RTX 2080 - Gigabyte(1458 37B3) ≥ 4GB

16GB DIMM DDR4 clocked @ 2133 MHz

Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 5 - Mother board

650x Corsair PSU (80 plus Gold)
 


I've had successfully OCd the card and had improved performance with the two attached images but from the research i've online, users with the same card running similar games at higher resolutions are getting the same if not better results. I've also recently tried hooking up the GPU with two seperate PCIe cables from the PSU which didn't seem to have any effect on the benchmarks. All my drivers are updates to the most recent using GEforce experience too. 

Any suggestions would be great, thanks :D

GPU_stress_test_no_OC.PNG

GPU stress test OC.PNG

 

 

Yes, it will at 1080P and lower defiantly will have a CPU bottleneck... OCing the GPU will just make it worse...

 

At 1440P and 4K you won't have that problem.

 

The 2080 is a lot more GPU than the 1070 is....

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So Ankerson, at the lower resolution the CPU will bottleneck the GPUs performance but at higher resolutions the GPU will function better because its tech is more specifically made for a higher res? So if im to keep the same specs but game at 1440p id have a performance increase?
 

With CPU bottle necking in general would task manager for example have to show close to maxed out CPU for a bottleneck to ouccur, or is it more the technology gap between the parts for compatibility?
 

Sorry for the noob questions, trying to get a deeper knowledge. 
 

Yannick_Re, Kombuster is purely a GPU benchmarking software. What do you mean by DDU'ing the drive?

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@Bus Money: Ankerson is actually right, i didn't think this through...

The lower the resolution, the more FPS your GPU "throws" at your CPU.. Since your CPU is a bit older, this is most likely the case.

 

And yes, if you game at higher resolutions your CPU becomes less of a bottleneck, because the GPU is stressed more and will take some load of the CPU.

 

 

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Ehhm how about those measly 2133MHz RAM speed? That's bottlenecky AF. That CPU is also past it's prime. 

So yeah just buy an R5 3600 with a 140-160$ B550 board and the new Crucial Ballistix memory (Micron E-Die is fu¢king awesome to OC) and Bob's your uncle! You haven't spent more than 300$ on a platform upgrade and you be rocking along for the next few years just fine!

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54 minutes ago, Bus Money said:

If the PC is being bottle necked by certain hardware shouldn't the task manager monitors of the hardware be close to maxing our during tasks?

 

For an example if your CPU is the bottleneck, yes, in theory, your CPU should be pegged at 100% in Task Manager.

Then again, you can't just look at the usage %.

Because the GPU at 100% usage does not necessarily mean it is bottlenbecking.

 

Depends on what game(s) you play, the frequency of your GPU i7-6700 (non-K) with a 3.4 GHz Base frequency, and up to 4.0 GHz boost, will hold you back.

Also the fewer number of Cores / Threads the CPU has can also hold you back.

 

 

NOTE: They use a RTX 2080Ti for their tests.

 

'Tech Gezus' over at Gamers Nexus did some comparison reviews...might be informational for you.

Intel CPU comparison from within the last 10 years.

 

See how the i7-7700K (revised version of the i7-6700K with higher base frequency and boost) stacks up.

Your i7-6700 non-K would be under the i7-7700K stock numbers ... since the i7-7700K's base/boost is 4.2/4.5 GHz.

Compare that to the Intel 8th / 9th / 10th Gen CPUs, and as well as AMD's Ryzen 3000 series.

 

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1 hour ago, Bus Money said:

If the PC is being bottle necked by certain hardware shouldn't the task manager monitors of the hardware be close to maxing our during tasks?

 

The 9900K bottlenecks the 2080Ti at 1080P.....

 

Known fact...

 

Same as your 6700K will bottleneck the 1080Ti and 2080 at 1080P.

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