GPU overheating

[Swiebertjeee]

Hi, 

 

I after a long period of time no gaming wanted to start gaming again. So I opened my steam started this game called 'Hellblade: sensua's sacrifice' and opened GeForce experience to recommend me the correct settings. GeForce basically said just set everything to high on 2560x1440p . The game starts fine, but when gaming for like 5 mins the GPU start overheating (which is my term for 80 degrees celcius and higher)  and at that point I am scared to continue because I don't want to blow the GPU up. I would assume my GPU would be able to do this game also my frames are between 60-80 on 256x1440. 

 

I have also tried it on 1080p but it shows the same result. Is my GPU too weak to handle the game or is there another reason for an overheating GPU ?

 

These are my specs just subtracted from speccy: 

Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
CPU
    Intel Core i5 @ 3.60GHz    41 °C
    Coffee Lake 14nm Technology
RAM
    16.0GB Dual-Channel Unknown @ 1070MHz (15-15-15-36)
Motherboard
    ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. PRIME Z370-A (LGA1151)    
Graphics
    VG27A (2560x1440@144Hz)
    4095MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (Gigabyte)    50 °C
Storage
    232GB Samsung SSD 960 EVO 250GB (Unknown (SSD))
    3726GB Seagate ST4000DM004-2CV104 (SATA )    39 °C
    476GB Crucial_CT512MX100SSD1 (SATA (SSD))    37 °C
Optical Drives
    No optical disk drives detected
Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

[gloop]

Case?

[Swiebertjeee]

Just now, gloop said:

Case?

I have the NZXT h700i I believe 

[Chris Pratt]

You're not going to blow up your GPU. It will thermal throttle if it gets too hot. Performance will dip, so you still want to get the temps under control, but you don't have to worry about it melting.

 

I'd look at your fan curve. A lot of GPUs prefer a silent profile, because noise is a common complaint with blower cards. That means temps might be high in general, but the fans should ramp up like a turbine engine before it gets to thermal throttling territory. Regardless, you should be able to adjust the fan curve to be more aggressive, running the fan higher at lower temps. That will add more noise, but it'll also make it run cooler.

[Ankerson]

Try it with the case side off....

 

That should tell you something...

 

Clean out the fans with air on the GPU. (All the fans in the case and the filters etc)

 

Also set the fan speed higher if needed.

 

80C isn't something to worry about however..... You won't blow it up...

[Swiebertjeee]

Alright thanks for the replies, It looks like it is staying under 90 after a while gaming. The case does get hot tho after a while (felt by touching window) I don't know if that is something to worry about 

[Chris Pratt]

5 minutes ago, Swiebertjeee said:

Alright thanks for the replies, It looks like it is staying under 90 after a while gaming. The case does get hot tho after a while (felt by touching window) I don't know if that is something to worry about 

What are temps doing on the rest of your components? If the case is getting hot, even, I can't imagine your CPU, motherboard, etc. temps are doing well either.

 

Also, what's your fan configuration? How many of what kind of intake and exhaust case fans do you have? Are they all working? What speed are those fans running at? If your overall PC temps are out of whack, then the GPU will be as well, no matter what you do.

[Swiebertjeee]

10 hours ago, Chris Pratt said:

What are temps doing on the rest of your components? If the case is getting hot, even, I can't imagine your CPU, motherboard, etc. temps are doing well either.

 

Also, what's your fan configuration? How many of what kind of intake and exhaust case fans do you have? Are they all working? What speed are those fans running at? If your overall PC temps are out of whack, then the GPU will be as well, no matter what you do.

The CPU temp is fine but that is all because it is watercooled. I don't think I can see any other temps, atleast not within cam. 

 

I have 3 fans in the front taking air into the case, I have one fan in the back going out. 

[Ankerson]

11 hours ago, Swiebertjeee said:

Alright thanks for the replies, It looks like it is staying under 90 after a while gaming. The case does get hot tho after a while (felt by touching window) I don't know if that is something to worry about 

 

If the case is getting that warm you need to rethink your case cooling.

[Swiebertjeee]

Just now, Ankerson said:

 

If the case is getting that warm you need to rethink your case cooling.

In idle (or aka known as just chrome) the GPU temp is around 55 degrees celsius. Is this normal?  

[Ankerson]

10 minutes ago, Swiebertjeee said:

In idle (or aka known as just chrome) the GPU temp is around 55 degrees celsius. Is this normal?  

 

Should be in the 30's C.... Ideally.

 

 

 

[Mateyyy]

11 minutes ago, Swiebertjeee said:

In idle (or aka known as just chrome) the GPU temp is around 55 degrees celsius. Is this normal?  

5 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

Should be in the 30's C.... Ideally.

Fans on modern graphics cards kick in right around the 55-60C mark, so it's normal.

[Ankerson]

1 minute ago, Mateyyy said:

Fans on modern graphics cards kick in right around the 55-60C mark, so it's normal.

 

At default they do, although it's good to set them to start lower or have them spinning..

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

At default they do, although it's good to set them to start lower or have them spinning..

Eh, I set up a custom curve mostly because the fans on my card click annoyingly when they start and stop, otherwise I would've probably just let it do its thing. 50C sustained on the GPU is not going to damage it.

[Ankerson]

5 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Eh, I set up a custom curve mostly because the fans on my card click annoyingly when they start and stop, otherwise I would've just let it do its thing. 50C constantly on the GPU is not going to damage it.

 

But it's not just the GPU inside the case...

 

If the GPU is 50C it will heat up everything else inside the case....

 

That's 122 F...

 

Around 30C is better....

[Mateyyy]

2 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

But it's not just the GPU inside the case...

 

If the GPU is 50C it will heat up everything else inside the case....

 

That's 122 F...

 

Around 30C is better....

If you have zero airflow inside your case and have the card spit out all of the GPU's heat into the case, yeah, sure. Though I don't get what you're implying that that's going to do negatively exactly.

The same thing happens when you've got any sort of load on the system by the way. Should people never put load on their systems? I really don't get your logic.

[Ankerson]

7 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

If you have zero airflow inside your case and have the card spit out all of the GPU's heat into the case, yeah, sure. Though I don't get what you're implying that that's going to do negatively exactly.

The same thing happens when you've got any sort of load on the system by the way. Should people never put load on their systems? I really don't get your logic.

 

HEAT is a negative for electronics...

 

The cooler the better....

 

 

[maartendc]

17 minutes ago, Ankerson said:

 

But it's not just the GPU inside the case...

 

If the GPU is 50C it will heat up everything else inside the case....

 

That's 122 F...

 

Around 30C is better....

You are wrong.

 

If the GPU is outputting lets say 50 watts on idle, then it is just adding 50 Watts of heat energy to the case. Regardless of the fan curve of the GPU. That is just the laws of thermodynamics.

 

You can have an aggressive fan curve, and have the GPU run at 30 C, or have a really relaxed fan curve and have the GPU run at 50 C idle. Heat output into the case is still exactly the same.

 

That being said, your temperatures are totally normal, don't stress about it. 50C idle is on the hotter side, but won't damage your GPU. 80-90C on load is again perfectly normal. ALthough lower temp on load will have the GPU boost higher and give you better performance, as GPU boost is a function of the running temp. So you will possibly get more FPS with a more aggressive fan curve. But also more noise...

 

good luck!

 

 

[Chris Pratt]

2 hours ago, Ankerson said:

 

HEAT is a negative for electronics...

 

The cooler the better....

 

 

Unless you're NAND.

 

Heat is not a negative for electronics - excessive heat is. All components have a range of temps at which they operate most effeciently. Too cold can sometimes be as bad as too hot (though the temps at that lower range are generally not achievable with traditional cooling methods). As long as the components are within the operating range specified for them, they are fine.

[Ankerson]

8 hours ago, maartendc said:

You are wrong.

 

If the GPU is outputting lets say 50 watts on idle, then it is just adding 50 Watts of heat energy to the case. Regardless of the fan curve of the GPU. That is just the laws of thermodynamics.

 

You can have an aggressive fan curve, and have the GPU run at 30 C, or have a really relaxed fan curve and have the GPU run at 50 C idle. Heat output into the case is still exactly the same.

 

That being said, your temperatures are totally normal, don't stress about it. 50C idle is on the hotter side, but won't damage your GPU. 80-90C on load is again perfectly normal. ALthough lower temp on load will have the GPU boost higher and give you better performance, as GPU boost is a function of the running temp. So you will possibly get more FPS with a more aggressive fan curve. But also more noise...

 

good luck!

 

 

 

Except that I can't even hear my 3 fans on my GPU or the 5x 140mm fans, case/CPU cooler...

 

I have to get VERY close to hear it at all.

[maartendc]

20 hours ago, Ankerson said:

 

Except that I can't even hear my 3 fans on my GPU or the 5x 140mm fans, case/CPU cooler...

 

I have to get VERY close to hear it at all.

Depends on the fan and the cooler.

 

Judging from the OP's temps at the moment, he is dealing with less-than-optimal case / airflow conditions, or perhaps hot ambient temps, or both.

 

Achieving 30C shouldn't be too hard, but might require like up to 40-50% fan speed possibly. Going from 80C load to like 70C load requires a SIGNIFICANT increase in fan speed. Like from 60% to 80-90% speed. Based on my experience.

 

Any GPU I have ever owned, including beefy Asus Strix and EVGA OC models, are pretty darn loud at 90% fan speed. Most of the time, it is not worth the extra noise, as 80C and even 85C is completely normal and safe for a GPU to operate under.

 

I would recommend the OP leave the fan curve at stock. I only ever tinker with the fan curve when OC'ing or when I think it is too agressive and loud.

[Ankerson]

38 minutes ago, maartendc said:

Depends on the fan and the cooler.

 

Judging from the OP's temps at the moment, he is dealing with less-than-optimal case / airflow conditions, or perhaps hot ambient temps, or both.

 

Achieving 30C shouldn't be too hard, but might require like up to 40-50% fan speed possibly. Going from 80C load to like 70C load requires a SIGNIFICANT increase in fan speed. Like from 60% to 80-90% speed. Based on my experience.

 

Any GPU I have ever owned, including beefy Asus Strix and EVGA OC models, are pretty darn loud at 90% fan speed. Most of the time, it is not worth the extra noise, as 80C and even 85C is completely normal and safe for a GPU to operate under.

 

I would recommend the OP leave the fan curve at stock. I only ever tinker with the fan curve when OC'ing or when I think it is too agressive and loud.

 

Yeah, the OP has some issues if the side of the case is warm etc..

 

 

[Swiebertjeee]

20 hours ago, maartendc said:

Depends on the fan and the cooler.

 

Judging from the OP's temps at the moment, he is dealing with less-than-optimal case / airflow conditions, or perhaps hot ambient temps, or both.

 

Achieving 30C shouldn't be too hard, but might require like up to 40-50% fan speed possibly. Going from 80C load to like 70C load requires a SIGNIFICANT increase in fan speed. Like from 60% to 80-90% speed. Based on my experience.

 

Any GPU I have ever owned, including beefy Asus Strix and EVGA OC models, are pretty darn loud at 90% fan speed. Most of the time, it is not worth the extra noise, as 80C and even 85C is completely normal and safe for a GPU to operate under.

 

I would recommend the OP leave the fan curve at stock. I only ever tinker with the fan curve when OC'ing or when I think it is too agressive and loud.

Probably these days dealing with room temps of between 20-30 degrees celsius so no that is not helping at all. It might eb the case is not letting pass enough air in the small gaps it actually wants to draw air from but I am not experienced on airflows at all. 

 

Pictures for the airflow as attachments, you can see the where the airflow has to come in the top and front is aluminium so no air passing there 
 

[recon_zero_]

Those temps are fine

 

Check Jay's video

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRfmNmnKYvs

[Dr0y]

The H710 runs on the hotter side cause of the blocked front.  My gf has the H510 and it's even worst ... that case is usually better to run negative pressure ...

 

I don't know if it's the same thing for the H710 case as it has more places where it can get some airflow.  Anyway you probably don't have much choice with your AIO in the front.  I see that there's place to put fan as exhaust on the top, maybe adding one or two fans there would help moving out the hot air from inside the case.   

 

Also those temps are ok and won't damage the components.