CPU(i7-4790K) Temps

[TheSoreSoarer]

I have noticed using MSI afterburner that my CPU(i7-4790k) will reach high max temperatures when playing certain games particularly in Modern Warfare(2019). While it averages in temperatures in the low 70s degrees Celsius it will reach max temperatures in the high 90s and today I noticed it maxed at 100 degrees. My cooler is a Hyper 212 LED(Newegg link below) and I haven't *noticed* my CPU ever thermal throttle with it staying at a constant 4.4 GHz, and I have not  done any overclocking except for enabling XMP for my memory having it run at 2400 MHz.  I have been running this system for at least 2 years so the problem would not be related to me just recently mounting it wrong although I am not saying that the CPU cooler is necessarily mounted 100% correctly. Should I be concerned by this or do anything or is this just normal?

 

Cooler Newegg link

[Haro]

Wait so was that 100c consistent? Or just a spike? 

If it's consistently at 70ish c then it's fine, but just to be safe re seat the cooler and re apply thermal paste and check. 

Also use something like cinebench and check temps. 

[FavoringWinter]

I would just reseat the cooler and see the temps. When was the last time you changed the thermal paste?

[TheSoreSoarer]

4 minutes ago, Hackerman25 said:

I would just reseat the cooler and see the temps. When was the last time you changed the thermal paste?

The most recent time I changed thermal paste would have been in August of 2018 when I build the system, so 2 years ago.

[TheSoreSoarer]

7 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Wait so was that 100c consistent? Or just a spike? 

If it's consistently at 70ish c then it's fine, but just to be safe re seat the cooler and re apply thermal paste and check. 

Also use something like cinebench and check temps. 

It would have been a spike, it is consistently closer to low 70s. I will maybe try cinebench but I have never done that before.

[Haro]

2 minutes ago, TheSoreSoarer said:

will maybe try cinebench but I have never done that before.

Try a cinebench run and check for temps spikes. 

But as I said just to be safe,  you could re apply thermal paste and re seat the cooler. 

[TheSoreSoarer]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

Try a cinebench run and check for temps spikes. 

But as I said just to be safe,  you could re apply thermal paste and re seat the cooler. 

Ok, thank you for that advice. I will try that.

[Jenko32]

23 minutes ago, TheSoreSoarer said:

It would have been a spike, it is consistently closer to low 70s. I will maybe try cinebench but I have never done that before.

My brother has a Non-K 4790 (I understand you said it's not overclocked so maybe just add 1-2 degree for the lack of XMP) and has the same cooler. He never reached over 74°C on Cinebench R20, for reference score 1751, usually on Apex Legends doesn't go over 55°C. From what I remember 4790 is known for having high spots, people would lap it to try to make it flat, on my first application of thermal paste 1 core run 99°C full thermal throttle while others were on high 60°C max. reapplying fixed it since there was a spot that wasn't covered well.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

@Jenko32 k and non-k CPUs are not equivalent even at stock. The 4790 has a lower TDP and lower stock clocks vs the 4790K.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80807/intel-core-i7-4790k-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80806/intel-core-i7-4790-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

 

The difference is greater than "1-2 degrees"

[TheSoreSoarer]

3 minutes ago, Jenko32 said:

My brother has a Non-K 4790 (I understand you said it's not overclocked so maybe just add 1-2 degree for the lack of XMP) and has the same cooler. He never reached over 74°C on Cinebench R20, for reference score 1751, usually on Apex Legends doesn't go over 55°C. From what I remember 4790 is known for having high spots, people would lap it to try to make it flat, on my first application of thermal paste 1 core run 99°C full thermal throttle while others were on high 60°C max. reapplying fixed it since there was a spot that wasn't covered well.

Ok, thank you for those temps, although I am not sure how fair it is to compare to the i7-4790K to the non K version because they have different base clocks, turbo clocks, and TDPs.

[Mick Naughty]

Id check what the voltage is running at.

New tim for the cooler. 

The cpu is old and so is the tim under the ihs.

Aside from that, are the cpu fans maxed out while at those temps?  

Can you improve case airflow at all or test with the side panel off.

[Jenko32]

2 minutes ago, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

@Jenko32 k and non-k CPUs are not equivalent even at stock. The 4790 has a lower TDP and lower stock clocks vs the 4790K.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80807/intel-core-i7-4790k-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-40-ghz.html

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/80806/intel-core-i7-4790-processor-8m-cache-up-to-4-00-ghz.html

 

The difference is greater than "1-2 degrees"

was saying that because of the XMP, I totally didn't remember the difference in TDP and clock, thanks

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

35 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

just to be safe re seat the cooler and re apply thermal paste and check.

This.

4 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

The cpu is old and so is the tim under the ihs.

And this. For my wife's PC, I breathed new life into my old 4790K by delidding it.

[TheSoreSoarer]

26 minutes ago, TofuHaroto said:

Try a cinebench run and check for temps spikes. 

But as I said just to be safe,  you could re apply thermal paste and re seat the cooler. 

Running cinebench R20 I got a score of 1945 on the default settings (just downloaded and ran it) and the temps never even reached 90 so no huge spikes in that first run anyway.

[Haro]

10 hours ago, TheSoreSoarer said:

so no huge spikes in that first run anyway.

well you could re seat the cooler and re apply thermal paste and check. 

though for the most part if it's not constant, 70c is more than fine..

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

1 minute ago, TheSoreSoarer said:

Running cinebench R20 I got a score of 1945 on the default settings (just downloaded and ran it) and the temps never even reached 90 so no huge spikes in that first run anyway.

When playing games, heat from your GPU will affect your CPU temps greatly, especially with less than ideal case airflow.

[TheSoreSoarer]

Just now, HairlessMonkeyBoy said:

When playing games, heat from your GPU will affect your CPU temps greatly, especially with less than ideal case airflow.

That might also be part of the problem, I am using a NZXT H440 with 3 120mm intake on the front, 2 120mm exhaust on top, and 1 140mm exhaust on back. While I don't think my 1660 super lets out a ton of heat(It stays pretty much below the 70s if it reaches that) it definitely does let out some and I have done a slight overclock on it. And while I don't think my case has horrible airflow it probably would pale in comparison to something like the Meshify C.

[TheSoreSoarer]

@HairlessMonkeyBoy@TofuHaroto@Jenko32@Mick Naughty While going over this stuff I realized that the CPU max of MSI afterburner now says 89 degrees(I haven't restarted my system or close MSI afterburner or anything like that), so I think while looking at the max I may have accidentally looked at the graph below which is CPU usage so of course the max is 100. I'm not sure if this is the case but I doubt the max for temp would have randomly change. Thank you all anyway for your extended help and knowledge into this topic/problem, although it seems I made a massive error. Will try not to miss that before posting on a forum again thanks again and have a great day.

[Hairless Monkey Boy]

2 minutes ago, TheSoreSoarer said:

I made a massive error

No worries. We all enjoy talking about this stuff anyway.