New threadripper build

[westenftw]

Budget (including currency): 3000k+ E

Country: SPAIN

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Multi VM virtualization multi core CPU heavy.

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  

Hello, I am looking to build a threadripper system for a specific multi core workload. I am looking for it to be up gradable in the future w/o having to buy every component again. My idea was to buy a 3920x with Mid range mother board (out of the 10 there is available  ) And an according set of ram thinking on 4x16. Also in the price i need to buy a case and cooling. (I have the needed PSU and GPU) The problem comes as follow. This type of machine is a pretty big investment and the idea behind the decision of buying the 3920x was to further into the future swap it for a newer threadripper model, basing my thought process on the new TRX40 architecture and the promise of long term support from amd part. But looking into the future i am seeing the upcoming release of ddr5 ram and i am not sure if any of my planned components will support said ram. So basically it has the potential to age really fast really soon. So my question is if there is any idea on the planned release of ddr5 and if it's worth it to wait till threadripper adopts it or if that adoption is too far away. 

Also any suggestions on the case, i am looking for a big comfortable case to house easy any tipe of cable ammount. I am scarred for life having to rebuild my pc on a 20 cheap case with no room at all. And even after upgrading to a meshify c from fractal. I still fine trouble with some places. So thats why I want a really big case. My mind is on a 1000D from corsair but i want to hear some recommendations.
Sorry for the spelling.

 

 

[Mateyyy]

Zen 2 Threadripper consists of the 3960X, 3970X and 3990X. The 3950X and 3900X are non-HEDT, and the 3920X doesn't exist.

 

Assuming you just need raw multithreaded power, and not much in the way of graphics, for just under €3000 you can put together a 3960X build:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Threadripper 3960X 3.8 GHz 24-Core Processor	€1406.88 @ Amazon Espana
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	€79.90 @ Amazon Espana
Motherboard	Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX sTRX4 Motherboard	€439.90 @ Amazon Espana
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 64 GB (4 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	€259.00 @ Amazon Espana
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€299.99 @ Amazon Espana
Video Card	Asus GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB DUAL OC Video Card	€151.90 @ Amazon Espana
Case	Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case	€168.80 @ Amazon Espana
Power Supply	be quiet! Dark Power Pro 11 550 W 80+ Platinum Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€153.13 @ Amazon Espana
Case Fan	Noctua NF-A14 industrialPPC-2000 PWM 107.41 CFM 140 mm Fan	€27.90 @ Amazon Espana
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€2987.40
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 21:23 CEST+0200

We'll probably see DDR5 making its way to customers sometime around 2021, so that'd be quite the wait.

[westenftw]

Mateyyy Thx for the response. Yeah i meant the 3960x instead of 3920x (the point being the same the cheapest out of the new) About the rest of the components as I said i already have a PSU a GPU and Storage. 

Also is there any difference on threadripper to get a 3600 ram?

[Mateyyy]

1 hour ago, westenftw said:

Mateyyy Thx for the response. Yeah i meant the 3960x instead of 3920x (the point being the same the cheapest out of the new) About the rest of the components as I said i already have a PSU a GPU and Storage. 

Also is there any difference on threadripper to get a 3600 ram?

Right, I missed the part about components you already have apparently. What will you be using then, in terms of PSU, GPU and storage?

Considering the cheapest 3600MHz 4x16GB kit is €50 more expensive than the 3200MHz one, nah, it's really not worth it.

 

Also, please use quotes (like I did above) or tags (@westenftw like this), so we're notified whenever you reply.

[westenftw]

@Mateyyy Yes, sorry i am pretty new to this forum and tbh i am not a big forum user. What i have atm is 
-PSU: Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W 80 Plus
-GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G
-Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 
 and some more cheap ssd's (sata3 ones)

Also what ram timings should i am for on a threadripper 3960x 
And what is the difference and how worth it is to buy a expensive motherboard vs a cheaper one? example: 
you recommended the

Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX sTRX4 Motherboard

vs a 

Asus ROG STRIX TRX40-XE GAMING
or a 
Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme
sorry for the format

[Mateyyy]

18 minutes ago, westenftw said:

@Mateyyy Yes, sorry i am pretty new to this forum and tbh i am not a big forum user. What i have atm is 
-PSU: Be Quiet! Straight Power 11 Platinum 1000W 80 Plus
-GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 Ti GAMING X 11G
-Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe Gen 4.0 x4 
 and some more cheap ssd's (sata3 ones)

Also what ram timings should i am for on a threadripper 3960x 
And what is the difference and how worth it is to buy a expensive motherboard vs a cheaper one? example: 
you recommended the

Gigabyte TRX40 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX sTRX4 Motherboard

vs a 

Asus ROG STRIX TRX40-XE GAMING
or a 
Asus ROG Zenith II Extreme
sorry for the format

No worries!

 

3200 CL16 is fine for Threadripper. It strikes a good balance between price and performance, since as I've said previously, higher speeds at these capacities make a big difference in price that doesn't match the difference in performance.

 

The TRX40 Aorus Pro is among the cheapest sTRX4 socket boards at the moment (despite still being €400+) , and should be able to handle a 3960X just fine. It's actually got a very capable VRM on it.

The Strix TRX40-E has a slightly stronger power delivery, though at €120 more than the Aorus Pro I don't think it's worth it. That being said, the Prime TRX40-Pro has the same VRM as the Strix, and is only ~€25 more expensive than the Aorus Pro (going by prices from PCPP), so that's an interesting option.

The Zenith II Extreme is just meant for LN2 overclocking, there's pretty much no point in getting it for anyone except extreme overclockers.