want to build a gaming pc within £500

[A Drawer For Fun]

Budget (including currency): £500

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Action, platformers, FPS, etc.

Other details My Lenovo work PC atm has these parts: I5 4460 (NOT OVERCLOCKED), GT 705, LENOVO Sharkbay for the motherboard, 1.8 TB of storage, 8GB RAM ( Default Frequency is 800mhz).I also have a 1080p 60HZ Samsung monitor. I want all high end games to run at default 1080p at 60 FPS or higher. I don't know which parts to upgrade, or add and if any of my existing parts would be useful for gaming. I want to know what to upgrade and upgrade to so I can start saving, I have £100 right now.

[kelvinhall05]

Used i7 and RX 580 will probably be your best bet. Also add an SSD if you haven't already.

[Mateyyy]

Throw in an i7-4770/4790, another 8GB of RAM, an SSD (if you don't have one already) and a 1660 Super or 1650 Super/580, depending on how much money you have left over.

[owencrispy]

Upgrade RAM (16GB minimum)

Upgrade Power Supply to be able to handle the next upgrades

Upgrade GPU (RX580 or maybe even a gtx 1660)

Upgrade CPU + cooler (maybe a used i7 on that platform)

 

If any budget left, whack in an SSD.

 

Ebay and CEX will be your friend, especially CEX for the most part!

[A Drawer For Fun]

2 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Used i7 and RX 580 will probably be your best bet. Also add an SSD if you haven't already.

So is my storage and ram enough? People say you need 16GB of Ram.

[A Drawer For Fun]

14 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

Throw in an i7-4770/4790, another 8GB of RAM, an SSD (if you don't have one already) and a 1660 Super or 1650 Super/580, depending on how much money you have left over.

How much storage for a SSD? Also should I get the K versions of the i7?

Edited July 24, 2020 by A Drawer For Fun

[A Drawer For Fun]

8 minutes ago, owencrispy said:

Upgrade RAM (16GB minimum)

Upgrade Power Supply to be able to handle the next upgrades

Upgrade GPU (RX580 or maybe even a gtx 1660)

Upgrade CPU + cooler (maybe a used i7 on that platform)

 

If any budget left, whack in an SSD.

 

Ebay and CEX will be your friend, especially CEX for the most part!

Would a GTX 1650 4 GB be good? 

[owencrispy]

30 minutes ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Would a GTX 1650 4 GB be good? 

The 1660 would be better, could see you wanting to upgrade in the future.

 

If you wanted the 1650, at least get the super version for the faster memory. 10-15% performance increase. 1650 would also mean you might be able to avoid a PSU change as some of them sip power straight from the slot!

[A Drawer For Fun]

3 minutes ago, owencrispy said:

The 1660 would be better, could see you wanting to upgrade in the future.

 

If you wanted the 1650, at least get the super version for the faster memory. 10-15% performance increase. 1650 would also mean you might be able to avoid a PSU change as some of them sip power straight from the slot!

So the RX 580 8GB is only slightly more expensive than the 1650 SUPER 4GB, which would be better?

[owencrispy]

2 minutes ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

So the RX 580 8GB is only slightly more expensive than the 1650 SUPER 4GB, which would be better?

According to user benchmark, the 1650 super!

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

 

Its also newer, more power efficient and should run cooler (and quieter)

[A Drawer For Fun]

10 minutes ago, owencrispy said:

According to user benchmark, the 1650 super!

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

 

Its also newer, more power efficient and should run cooler (and quieter)

Got it! Also what should the amount of watts should there be in the power supply?

Edited July 24, 2020 by A Drawer For Fun

[A Drawer For Fun]

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[A Drawer For Fun]

16 minutes ago, owencrispy said:

According to user benchmark, the 1650 super!

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

 

Its also newer, more power efficient and should run cooler (and quieter)

Is there any motherboard suggestions you would recommend or is the Sharkbay good enough?

[owencrispy]

51 minutes ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Is there any motherboard suggestions you would recommend or is the Sharkbay good enough?

You could build an entire new pc for £500 using the ryzen 3 3100, 16GB ram and a gtx 1650!

 

I know this, i built 2 this week!

[owencrispy]

54 minutes ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Is there any motherboard suggestions you would recommend or is the Sharkbay good enough?

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£96.85 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£64.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.91 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£169.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	£49.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£446.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-24 18:06 BST+0100

 

Here!

 

You can re-use the storage from your old build! All you'de need is a case!

[A Drawer For Fun]

2 hours ago, owencrispy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£96.85 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£64.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.91 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£169.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	£49.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£446.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-24 18:06 BST+0100

 

Here!

 

You can re-use the storage from your old build! All you'de need is a case!

Is there any good cheap coolers? Or do you not need one?

[A Drawer For Fun]

16 hours ago, owencrispy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£96.85 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£64.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.91 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£169.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	£49.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£446.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-24 18:06 BST+0100

 

Here!

 

You can re-use the storage from your old build! All you'de need is a case!

Also if the case has case cooling do you need a separate cooler?

[owencrispy]

3 hours ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Also if the case has case cooling do you need a separate cooler?

You always need aCPU cooler yes, thats a given.

 

Aftermarket cooler if budget allows, but the wraith stealth that it comes with will control that 3100 just fine

[SavageNeo]

22 hours ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

So the RX 580 8GB is only slightly more expensive than the 1650 SUPER 4GB, which would be better?

rx 580 has more vram and performs slightly better. So i would get rx 580 over 1650 super.

 

21 hours ago, owencrispy said:

According to user benchmark, the 1650 super!

 

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

 

Its also newer, more power efficient and should run cooler (and quieter)

DO NOT use usershitmark. use reviews from known youtubers or known forums like htis, anandtech or tomshardware. Check this: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

21 hours ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Got it! Also what should the amount of watts should there be in the power supply?

Any decent 400w+ psu. your pc will pull about 300w (with 580) and about 250w (with 1650 super)

20 hours ago, owencrispy said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 3 3100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor	£96.85 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£64.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.91 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	£169.98 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply	EVGA 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply	£49.99 @ AWD-IT
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£446.68
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-24 18:06 BST+0100

 

 

Here!

 

You can re-use the storage from your old build! All you'de need is a case!

 

Have your pc blown up yet? Since you know that that psu is really bad. we have a tier list that y ou can look at here to give you some perpective that what are actually even decent power supplies.

 

1650 super is waste of money. Performs worse than rx 580 and has only 50% of the vram of rx 580.

 

for 500:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	£159.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	£71.98 @ Amazon UK
Memory	Team T-FORCE DARK Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£64.77 @ Amazon UK
Video Card	XFX Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	£157.99 @ CCL Computers
Power Supply	be quiet! System Power 9 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	£54.92 @ CCL Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£508.66
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-25 14:59 BST+0100

 

[SavageNeo]

4 hours ago, A Drawer For Fun said:

Also if the case has case cooling do you need a separate cooler?

the stock cooler with 3100/3300x is more than enough for your needs.

 

[A Drawer For Fun]

1 hour ago, owencrispy said:

You always need aCPU cooler yes, thats a given.

 

Aftermarket cooler if budget allows, but the wraith stealth that it comes with will control that 3100 just fine

Will this do fine as I'm not getting an i7 4770K but the non overclocked version?https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/pc-fans-and-coolers/corsair-a500-120-mm-dual-fan-cpu-cooler-10204413-pdt.html

[A Drawer For Fun]

On 7/24/2020 at 4:04 PM, A Drawer For Fun said:

Budget (including currency): £500

Country: UK

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: Action, platformers, FPS, etc.

Other details My Lenovo work PC atm has these parts: I5 4460 (NOT OVERCLOCKED), GT 705, LENOVO Sharkbay for the motherboard, 1.8 TB of storage, 8GB RAM ( Default Frequency is 800mhz).I also have a 1080p 60HZ Samsung monitor. I want all high end games to run at default 1080p at 60 FPS or higher. I don't know which parts to upgrade, or add and if any of my existing parts would be useful for gaming. I want to know what to upgrade and upgrade to so I can start saving, I have £100 right now.

So far what I'm getting is 1650 SUPER, I7 6800k 3.4 GHZ, 128GB SSD, 8GB RAM,B450M, CORSAIR A500 DUAL CPU COOLER, 600W Power Supply.
And this case: https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing-accessories/components-upgrades/tower-cases/kolink-stronghold-e-atx-mid-tower-pc-case-black-10186645-pdt.html
Waiting for Black Friday to buy this setup, have £ 200 atm.

[A Drawer For Fun]

On 7/25/2020 at 3:01 PM, SavageNeo said:

the stock cooler with 3100/3300x is more than enough for your needs.

 

Should I get a i5 8600k or a i7 6800k?

Edited July 28, 2020 by A Drawer For Fun