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Okay I feel really dumb but I fixed it.

 

I apparently installed experimental drivers by manually updating.

 

When I updated my drivers it simply said "new version available" so I installed them.

I don't know why I didn't try this earlier but I used AMD cleaner tool to remove the drivers and then reinstalled them.

There it said "Recommended 20.4.something" and "optional 20.7.2" which was the one I updated to.

So I installed the 20.4 and now it's fixed...

 

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It boots as fast as ever again.

Hi,

 

I need help.

 

TL;DR
My PC boots super slow after I updatet the BIOS on my Gigabyte RX 5600 XT Gaming OC, from F60 to F61.

 

Longer version:

Just got my new PC with a Gigabyte RX 5600 XT Gaming OC.

I installed Aorus Engine and there it said I had BIOS version F60. Also my AMD Drivers told me the specs of the card, which were clearly the older ones.

On their website it listed F61 (among others) so I downloaded that.

 

I carefully read the readme file and it said F60 > F61. So I closed all background programs, ran the tool as admin and it said "Succes ! Would you restart your computer?" And so I did... And I got the boot up screen... For a very long time it kept saying "press del to enter BIOS" like it usually only does for a second. Then I finally got the Windows spinny ball loading animation, which also took way longer than before.

 

I finally got to my desktop and checked the AMD software and Aorus Engine. Both confirmed I had now BIOS F61.

I decided to restart my PC once more to check if this wasn't a one time thing... But unfortunately it is not.

Where it took my PC seconds to boot, it now takes minutes.

 

I also updated my AMD drivers before I did this, so maybe that also influences it.

 

Any ideas? I just got this PC and I'm not really that inexperienced, but now I feel stupid for messing this up.

 

Any help is greatly appreciated!

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3 minutes ago, Salty_Gamer said:

also updated my AMD drivers b

this. make sure it didnt update the AMD sata drivers. that caused the smae thing for me

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

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Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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1 minute ago, SavageNeo said:

this. make sure it didnt update the AMD sata drivers. that caused the smae thing for me

Okay, where can I check this?

 

Thanks

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Just now, Salty_Gamer said:

Okay, where can I check this?

 

Thanks

Did you make a rewstore point before the updtaes? if not reinstall windows

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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Just now, SavageNeo said:

Did you make a rewstore point before the updtaes? if not reinstall windows

No I did not... is that really the only way to recover?

Damnit I just installed everything.

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Just now, Salty_Gamer said:

No I did not... is that really the only way to recover?

Damnit I just installed everything.

if you update amd chipset drivers you might have accidentally selected that it will updtae all the aMD things

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

Spoiler

| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

Spoiler

 

Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

Spoiler

 

Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

Spoiler

 

Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

Spoiler

 

Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

Spoiler

 

Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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8 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

this. make sure it didnt update the AMD sata drivers. that caused the smae thing for me

Yeah, AMD's SATA drivers = pain. You can use device manager to switch them back to Microsoft's generic ones, which work flawlessly.

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8 minutes ago, Salty_Gamer said:

No I did not... is that really the only way to recover?

Damnit I just installed everything.

You know where this is, right?

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If you have an AMD driver there instead, right click it, update driver, then use the manual option to pick a driver from a list. Then you can change it to the Microsoft AHCI one.

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11 minutes ago, TehDwonz said:

Yeah, AMD's SATA drivers = pain. You can use device manager to switch them back to Microsoft's generic ones, which work flawlessly.

Okay thanks man! I will try this.

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35 minutes ago, TehDwonz said:

You know where this is, right?

 

If you have an AMD driver there instead, right click it, update driver, then use the manual option to pick a driver from a list. Then you can change it to the Microsoft AHCI one.

 

Yes I'm familiar with the Device Manager, but your screenshots still help massively. I thought he meant to ask of I made a restore point for Windows itself, which I did not.

 

Thanks a ton, I really appreciate the help!

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19 minutes ago, Salty_Gamer said:

Yes I'm familiar with the Device Manager, but your screenshots still help massively. I thought he meant to ask of I made a restore point for Windows itself, which I did not.

 

Thanks a ton, I really appreciate the help!

Only thank me if it works 😛 

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10 minutes ago, TehDwonz said:

Only thank me if it works 😛 

I'm not sure it does... :(

 

There's no AMD controller in here.

Some searching on the interwebs also told me rolling back the drivers might work, but it's greyed out for all of them.

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8 minutes ago, Salty_Gamer said:

I'm not sure it does... :(

 

There's no AMD controller in here.

Some searching on the interwebs also told me rolling back the drivers might work, but it's greyed out for all of them.

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Ok, unlikely to be that then. When you upgraded the BIOS, did you load safe defaults and then set options like XMP for RAM etc? Or even just loading the defaults would be a good starting point.

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4 minutes ago, TehDwonz said:

Ok, unlikely to be that then. When you upgraded the BIOS, did you load safe defaults and then set options like XMP for RAM etc? Or even just loading the defaults would be a good starting point.

I'm not 100% sure what you mean. After building my PC I enabled XMP and have not touched that since. It has worked fine since then.
Pretty sure I didn't touch anything else after that.

 

Should I try turning XMP off?

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31 minutes ago, Salty_Gamer said:

I'm not 100% sure what you mean. After building my PC I enabled XMP and have not touched that since. It has worked fine since then.
Pretty sure I didn't touch anything else after that.

 

Should I try turning XMP off?

When you flash a new BIOS, you are meant to go in and load up the default settings and reboot. Did you do that, or just flash and set XMP?

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5 hours ago, TehDwonz said:

When you flash a new BIOS, you are meant to go in and load up the default settings and reboot. Did you do that, or just flash and set XMP?

I built my PC about a week ago. I then enabled XMP.

 

Today I realised I still had to update the vBIOS of my graphics card.

I followed the instructions which were:

1. Flash vBIOS

2. Restart

 

and that's all I did.

 

Am I stupid?

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Okay I feel really dumb but I fixed it.

 

I apparently installed experimental drivers by manually updating.

 

When I updated my drivers it simply said "new version available" so I installed them.

I don't know why I didn't try this earlier but I used AMD cleaner tool to remove the drivers and then reinstalled them.

There it said "Recommended 20.4.something" and "optional 20.7.2" which was the one I updated to.

So I installed the 20.4 and now it's fixed...

 

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It boots as fast as ever again.

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On 7/19/2020 at 10:24 PM, Salty_Gamer said:

Okay I feel really dumb but I fixed it.

 

I apparently installed experimental drivers by manually updating.

 

When I updated my drivers it simply said "new version available" so I installed them.

I don't know why I didn't try this earlier but I used AMD cleaner tool to remove the drivers and then reinstalled them.

There it said "Recommended 20.4.something" and "optional 20.7.2" which was the one I updated to.

So I installed the 20.4 and now it's fixed...

 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

 

It boots as fast as ever again.

hehe, it's usually drivers with interrupt-spam issues :) Glad it's sorted.

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