AIO PC CPU choice

[Herr q]

So i need to buy all in one pc (it must be allinone) super budget under max 600€ with taxes only for office work (browse excel word). Its does not need an ssd no need for super fast load times etc. It need to last "forever"  Current pc in use is  from 2004-+ and its dying.

Choices are pretty terrible cos we need to buy it from domestic companies and its nothing amazing. I narrowed it down to 2 HP and 3 Acer pieces.

Same size, panel, ram, ports and stuff, HDD is whatever size is ok on all 5. It will never be upgraded unless some creap happens and 4GB ram will no longer be able to run WIN10.

The only real choice is CPU and that is 

Intel® Pentium® Silver J5005 Processor vs Intel® Core™ i3-8130U Processor

Also it seems that HP ones got 7200rpm HDD while i cant find what Acer has even though its probably doesnt matter.

So what really difference does that 2/4 vs 4/4 make? Is the pentium just better cos of 4 cores? And its much cheaper.

Is it posibble there could be some new ones coming ?? 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Get a ssd, that will make a massive differnce, don't get a model with a hdd. Or swap it your self. Also 8gb of ram is starting to be needed these days, 4gb won't get you very far.

 

The i3 is faster, and has a better archeture. Don't look at the core count alone, the pentium is using much lower end cores. But both should be fine for office work. You want the SSD though.

 

 

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, Herr q said:

Its does not need an ssd

it truly does. The massive speed improvement is visible in every single program, from microsoft word to google chrome. I would go so far as to say it's literally the only important part of the PC you want to get.

[Herr q]

Guys this pc for my boss she is almost 60 she doesnt need an ssd she has all the time to let it start and those SSD that i can buy them with are max 256GB (curently 150GB?? its always full slow, dead) and probably will not last as long as HDD (in ideal circumstances). She still does work the file transfer is there. Max tabs while browsing are like 3-5 i think 4gigs can take it + no progams running only absolute essentials. Also buying it and then replacing half of the components or buying additional is not the way just more money.

[Fasauceome]

6 hours ago, Herr q said:

Guys this pc for my boss she is almost 60 she doesnt need an ssd she has all the time to let it start and those SSD that i can buy them with are max 256GB (curently 150GB?? its always full slow, dead) and probably will not last as long as HDD (in ideal circumstances). She still does work the file transfer is there. Max tabs while browsing are like 3-5 i think 4gigs can take it + no progams running only absolute essentials. Also buying it and then replacing half of the components or buying additional is not the way just more money.

your reasoning doesnt make any sense

 

just get the cheapest PC you can possibly get then. nothing but the speed of the drive matters for an office pc, therefore if the speed of the drive does not matter to you, nothing is really important, so target price.

[Herr q]

6 hours ago, Fasauceome said:

your reasoning doesnt make any sense

 

just get the cheapest PC you can possibly get then. nothing but the speed of the drive matters for an office pc, therefore if the speed of the drive does not matter to you, nothing is really important, so target price.

Sometimes its hard to english for me maybe i should took more time to clarify and explain things to clear future misunderstandings. Well better next time! Also thanks for the help!

 

Ok so there is no "useful" difference between the CPUs? and since drive speed doesnt matter i can go for the cheapest?*

From what i understand the only benefit SSD give you is faster loading into win and faster instalation of updates .. I dont need any of those. When you are browsing cpu and ram can be an issue. And nobody touched upon that SSD longevity.

I can see the 4GB RAM issue. 

 

*Also i found something like this that could be possible HP ProDesk 405 G4 : AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 2400GE Raven Bridge 3.8 GHz, AMD Radeon RX Vega 11, RAM 8GBDDR4, HDD 1TB 7 200 ot./min, VGA D-SUB a DisplayPort, 6×USB 3.2, Mini Tower

The price si on par with those AIOs!

https://support.hp.com/au-en/document/c06316756

 

 

[Fasauceome]

6 hours ago, Herr q said:

From what i understand the only benefit SSD give you is faster loading into win and faster instalation of updates

No, everything is faster. Faster webpage loading in web browsers. Faster opening of documents, faster document saving, faster program opening, faster program switching.

 

Every little thing is much, much faster. Also the durability concerns you listed earlier are not a problem, especially compared to how slow a hard drive will become in a few months, with bloat and useless junk that gets picked up, as well as fragmentation that the windows defrag tool can't handle.

[Herr q]

On 7/2/2020 at 3:09 PM, Fasauceome said:

No, everything is faster. Faster webpage loading in web browsers. Faster opening of documents, faster document saving, faster program opening, faster program switching.

 

Every little thing is much, much faster. Also the durability concerns you listed earlier are not a problem, especially compared to how slow a hard drive will become in a few months, with bloat and useless junk that gets picked up, as well as fragmentation that the windows defrag tool can't handle.

Ok i went for the HP i mentioned above but with SSD. It seems i kinda mindfuck myself with this SSD vs HDD. Case cloced Thanks.