BSOD while gaming.

[Ogre83]

I had built this rig over winter, now I am getting BSOD after a short time of gaming, namely Destiny 2. I have no issues when not playing them. I have not gotten the same error twice so it is hard to say what error I have. I have done a memcheck and it came back fine. I did a Bios Check after that, it did have a update but I still get BSOD's. Can anyone assist me in what may be the problem?

The programs I have running besides the game is Steam, Avast, GHub, chrome (with a YT video) on my other screen and Asus GPU tweak.

Rig:

OS: Win 10 64bit version 1903

AMD Ryzen 5 2600x

Corssasir H60 AIO

Asus Strix B450-F gaming

16 gigs of G.Skill Sniper X memory

Asus 2070 Super Dual EVO OC

1tb Intel 660p M.2

Corsair CX650M

[Bombastinator]

Seeing a lot of PSU issues lately though generally when stuff happens after a machine boots it’s usually memory.  Have you done any memory stick testing?

[Ogre83]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Seeing a lot of PSU issues lately though generally when stuff happens after a machine boots it’s usually memory.  Have you done any memory stick testing?

Yeah I ran a mem check. PSU wouldn't make sense as it is less than a year old.

[Bombastinator]

12 minutes ago, Ogre83 said:

Yeah I ran a mem check. PSU wouldn't make sense as it is less than a year old.

Mrm checks don’t always catch subtle problems.  Move is to run a single stick and see if problem persists 

[Ogre83]

2 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Mrm checks don’t always catch subtle problems.  Move is to run a single stick and see if problem persists 

SO just put one stick in and see if it works? If so I thought I needed 2 sticks to boot??

[Ogre83]

I may have fixed it but I need to do a longer test.

[Bombastinator]

4 hours ago, Ogre83 said:

I may have fixed it but I need to do a longer test.

Yeah it takes a long time.  If one works but the other doesn’t you got a bad stick. If both show same issue not the problem.

[Ogre83]

10 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

Yeah it takes a long time.  If one works but the other doesn’t you got a bad stick. If both show same issue not the problem.

No I was talking with a friend last night and I had forgotten to update the chipset. In short it didn't work. I still have no idea how to do the test you are talking about as I only have 2 sticks and two is needed to run the system.

[Shirolmao]

2 hours ago, Ogre83 said:

I still have no idea how to do the test you are talking about as I only have 2 sticks and two is needed to run the system.

He is saying that, try running your system using 1 stick of memory(8gb). If it runs the game without any problems then the other stick is the problem.

[-rascal-]

2 hours ago, Ogre83 said:

No I was talking with a friend last night and I had forgotten to update the chipset. In short it didn't work. I still have no idea how to do the test you are talking about as I only have 2 sticks and two is needed to run the system.

 

No, two sticks is NOT required.

You can run a system, even a Ryzen system, with a single stick of RAM.

 

Dual-channel just means how the DIMM slots operate.

 

Also, what is your RAM frequency rated at?

Do you have XMP enabled?

 

Keep in mind 2nd Gen Ryzen has a weaker IMC compared to Ryzen 3rd Gen.

It will start to struggle to run RAM beyond DDR4-2933 / 3000.

 

There are also a couple of BIOS updates in late 2019, that improves system stability, and RAM compatibility / overclocking.

A new BIOS version actually came out a few days ago ... June 23 2020.

If you are on a much older BIOS, considering updating it.

 

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/

[Ogre83]

36 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

No, two sticks is NOT required.

You can run a system, even a Ryzen system, with a single stick of RAM.

 

Dual-channel just means how the DIMM slots operate.

 

Also, what is your RAM frequency rated at?

Do you have XMP enabled?

 

Keep in mind 2nd Gen Ryzen has a weaker IMC compared to Ryzen 3rd Gen.

It will start to struggle to run RAM beyond DDR4-2933 / 3000.

 

There are also a couple of BIOS updates in late 2019, that improves system stability, and RAM compatibility / overclocking.

A new BIOS version actually came out a few days ago ... June 23 2020.

If you are on a much older BIOS, considering updating it.

 

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-B450-F-GAMING/HelpDesk_BIOS/

I have the ram on auto setting I did have it set to a 32660 or something on that line till I reset it. As far as BIO's updates go I am current. I will take out a stick and see what I get.

[Ogre83]

Not sure if I said this already but it does not crash right as I launch. I can play for anywhere from 20-40 minutes and then the game crash's. If I relaunch then play for about the same amount of time It will BSOD.

[Ogre83]

Well more than a three in on one slot and it seems to be going well. No crash's and I have a video open at the same time. I will have to test the other stick in the same slot to see if the slot is messed up.

[Ogre83]

Nope it is the stick located in slot 4. Nearly immediate failure causing a BSOD once loaded into a area in D2. I will be calling G.Skill tomorrow to RMA it. It is just odd in a computer less than a year old the stick failed where my last machine ran for nearly 10 years with only needing GPU and a PSU needing replacing.

[Bombastinator]

6 minutes ago, Ogre83 said:

Nope it is the stick located in slot 4. Nearly immediate failure causing a BSOD once loaded into a area in D2. I will be calling G.Skill tomorrow to RMA it. It is just odd in a computer less than a year old the stick failed where my last machine ran for nearly 10 years with only needing GPU and a PSU needing replacing.

Yeah.  Memory can do that. The stuff inside it is so tiny it can actually be affected by cosmic rays.

[Ogre83]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Yeah.  Memory can do that. The stuff inside it is so tiny it can actually be affected by cosmic rays.

Yeah I am just glad it has a lifetime warranty.

[Ogre83]

Anyways thank you both for your time and help.

[-rascal-]

3 hours ago, Ogre83 said:

I have the ram on auto setting I did have it set to a 32660 or something on that line till I reset it. As far as BIO's updates go I am current. I will take out a stick and see what I get.

 

Wait hold on...before you RMA it.

Find out exactly what frequency you set it to.

32660 is not a valid frequency number.

 

Also, you cannot JUST set the frequency.

You need to adjust the timings and the DRAM voltage. Enabling XMP / A-XMP / DOCP takes care of that for you.

 

Most DDR4 sticks, to run advertised speeds, needs 1.35V, up from the Auto 1.2V.

[Ogre83]

Sorry for the spam. I am new to the forums and didn't see that stuff.

[Ogre83]

14 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

Wait hold on...before you RMA it.

Find you exactly what frequency you set it to.

32660 is not a valid frequency number.

 

Also, you cannot JUST set the frequency.

You need to adjust the timings and the DRAM voltage.

 

Most DDR4 sticks, to run advertised speeds, needs 1.35V, up from the Auto 1.2V.

Yup I did that after the first BSOD. It still crashed.

Edit: Not the first but after trying a few other things. Also I couldn't shoot the number off the top of my head when I posted the numbers it was all in a drop down menu.

[Bombastinator]

9 minutes ago, Ogre83 said:

Yup I did that after the first BSOD. It still crashed.

Edit: Not the first but after trying a few other things.

Another thought:  you said slot #4.  Did you try each stick in slot #1?  It might be the motherboard slot that has a problem or some other issue.  As a general rule slots #1 and #3 and slots #2 and #4 are connected.

[Ogre83]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

Another thought:  you said slot #4.  Did you try each stick in slot #1?  It might be the motherboard slot that has a problem or some other issue.  As a general rule slots #1 and #3 and slots #2 and #4 are connected.

Well you are supposed to put them in slot 2,4 as per the mobo manual. I did put the bad one in slot two to ensure it wasn't the slot and the good stick worked for 3+ hours. Where the bad stick in slot 2 died in less than 10 minutes.

[-rascal-]

2 hours ago, Ogre83 said:

Well you are supposed to put them in slot 2,4 as per the mobo manual. I did put the bad one in slot two to ensure it wasn't the slot and the good stick worked for 3+ hours. Where the bad stick in slot 2 died in less than 10 minutes.

 

Okay, so it looks like you need to RMA the kit of memory.

I've never had to RMA any of the laptop / desktop memory from G.Skill before (knock on wood), but I've heard their RMA / support team is top notch.