someone please help me choose processor for server pc

[Ankush Agarwal]

I want to make a sever pc for my clients range about 1200 to 1500 so do i need xeon or i7 9 gen is gonna work fine ?

[Haro]

A server for what ? 

Budget ? 

[Ankush Agarwal]

server for rdp services and budget is about 1000$ is fine 

[Electronics Wizardy]

2 minutes ago, Ankush Agarwal said:

server for rdp services and budget is about 1000$ is fine 

What os? 

 

What re the users using it for? HOw many users?

 

You probably won't be very cpu limited with this use case, Id focus more on memory an disk io?

 

Rack or tower form factor?

[LIGISTX]

8 minutes ago, Ankush Agarwal said:

I want to make a sever pc for my clients range about 1200 to 1500 so do i need xeon or i7 9 gen is gonna work fine ?

We need WAY more info.

 

My homelab runs on an i3.... but my use case is single user mostly just file server duty. Few Ubuntu VM’s, a Windows LTSC vm, and not much else.

 

We need to understand the use case...

[eeeee1]

why not go AMD? a threadripper or epyc if your server is gonna be hit hard.

[Ankush Agarwal]

1 hour ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What os? 

 

What re the users using it for? HOw many users?

 

You probably won't be very cpu limited with this use case, Id focus more on memory an disk io?

 

Rack or tower form factor?

i am thinking microsoft server 2019 but if you have something different in your mind please tell me 

I am gonna use it for my business of rdp and users maybe 1200 to 1500

please tell me about processor and you can also tell me about other hardware also actually I am new in server type of pc.

btw Thank you so much for helping me

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Ankush Agarwal said:

i am thinking microsoft server 2019 but if you have something different in your mind please tell me 

I am gonna use it for my business of rdp and users maybe 1200 to 1500

please tell me about processor and you can also tell me about other hardware also actually I am new in server type of pc.

btw Thank you so much for helping me

How many users? What software are they using

 

Do you really need a rdp server for your buiness? They can be a pain to get working right, and normally are more expensive than just running it in workstations.

 

Also don't build this, get a prebuilt from dell or similar, or a used one if you want cheaper. Don't go diy here.

 

Get someone in that knows how to set this up. Are you guys on a domain? 

[Ankush Agarwal]

1 hour ago, LIGISTX said:

We need WAY more info.

 

My homelab runs on an i3.... but my use case is single user mostly just file server duty. Few Ubuntu VM’s, a Windows LTSC vm, and not much else.

 

We need to understand the use case...

It's gonna use for my business of RDP and i don't much about server pc's 

I am starting my business soon so I expect users will be like 1200 to 1400 at first 

i am gonna use window server if you something other in mind so please tell me 

last thank you for helping me

[Ankush Agarwal]

1 hour ago, eeeee1 said:

why not go AMD? a threadripper or epyc if your server is gonna be hit hard.

how's is total gonna cost can you tell me please and can the processor handle 1200 to 1400 clients at a time 

btw Thank you for helping me

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Ankush Agarwal said:

how's is total gonna cost can you tell me please and can the processor handle 1200 to 1400 clients at a time 

btw Thank you for helping me

So you meant 1200 clients? What are they doing? 

 

Your not running that on a single server. Your gonna need a cluster here.

 

Also this is gonna be expensive, licensing is probalby going to be 100K+ alone(very rough guess).

 

 

[Ankush Agarwal]

4 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

How many users? What software are they using

 

Do you really need a rdp server for your buiness? They can be a pain to get working right, and normally are more expensive than just running it in workstations.

 

Also don't build this, get a prebuilt from dell or similar, or a used one if you want cheaper. Don't go diy here.

 

Get someone in that knows how to set this up. Are you guys on a domain? 

users maybe max 1400 or 1500 and it's our RDP software 

yes i really need a rdp server for my business 

yes on domain as well as on software too

[eeeee1]

2 minutes ago, Ankush Agarwal said:

how's is total gonna cost can you tell me please and can the processor handle 1200 to 1400 clients at a time 

btw Thank you for helping me

go with a what linus uses, either a 32-64 core Threadripper or a good Epyc. I don't know to much about the specifics but I am pretty sure they could be cheaper but definitely have better value. If you need RAM then go Epyc

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Ankush Agarwal said:

users maybe max 1400 or 1500 and it's our RDP software 

yes i really need a rdp server for my business 

yes on domain as well as on software too

what software are the clients using how much cpu and ram does it need? Do you need vms for each user?

 

you guys make your own rdp software? Your not running rds on windows?

 

$1000 is way too low for this amount of clients.

 

 

[Ankush Agarwal]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So you meant 1200 clients? What are they doing? 

 

Your not running that on a single server. Your gonna need a cluster here.

 

Also this is gonna be expensive, licensing is probalby going to be 100K+ alone(very rough guess).

 

 

they are gonna use my server like application cloud like a geforce now in which only application runs not games that application is gonna be a accounting software

well if your talking about software license then i have my own software 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, Ankush Agarwal said:

they are gonna use my server like application cloud like a geforce now in which only application runs not games 

well if your talking about software license then i have my own software 

so what software is managing the remote desktop sessions? Normally you use something like rds or citrix or vmware horion to manage the connections to the server.

 

How much compute power do the users need? How much ram?

 

Probably get a cluster of servers. How much rack space do you have?

[Ankush Agarwal]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

what software are the clients using how much cpu and ram does it need? Do you need vms for each user?

 

you guys make your own rdp software? Your not running rds on windows?

 

$1000 is way too low for this amount of clients.

 

 

idk about cpu and ram but yeah i need vms for each user

actually i bought my personal rdp software and that software can run on windows 

1000$ is a processor amount but i can spend 4000$ on whole rig 

[Ankush Agarwal]

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

so what software is managing the remote desktop sessions? Normally you use something like rds or citrix or vmware horion to manage the connections to the server.

 

How much compute power do the users need? How much ram?

 

Probably get a cluster of servers. How much rack space do you have?

i need server like a vms for every users and idk about cpu but ram i think 128 is enough 

i am thinking 2 tb of space cuz they are gonna use a accounting application 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Ankush Agarwal said:

idk about cpu and ram but yeah i need vms for each user

actually i bought my personal rdp software and that software can run on windows 

1000$ is a processor amount but i can spend 4000$ on whole rig 

Im guessing the users need windows for vms?

 

What software did you buy?

 

For 1000 vms for each users, you probably want at least 2gb of ram per vm, so thats 2tb of ram. 

 

For 1000 vms you probably want a max of 2 vcpus per core, so thats 500 cores.

 

Sam ewith storage, 16gb per vm after dedup + compression would be 16tb, and you want ssds here

 

We would be looking at something like a rack of 10+ 64 core amd epyc servers to nteed this need. So this is probably going to be over 1 mil usd in hardware alone. For software, thats probably atleast 17k in windows server if standard is fine, 170k ish for data center. THen add in cals.

 

 

Id go rent some cloud instances in aws or google cloud or simmilar to get a feel for what you need, cause my quick math shows that your budget is way to low for your needs

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Ankush Agarwal said:

i need server like a vms for every users and idk about cpu but ram i think 128 is enough 

i am thinking 2 tb of space cuz they are gonna use a accounting application 

You are not runing 1000 vms at once with windows with 128gb of ram.

 

 

Why not have them run the accounting program on their system? And then sync the data back? Thats probably cheaper.

 

 

Get someone in that has done these setups before.