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I’m kind of starting to worry at this point, because I saw someone claim 1000+ fps in Minecraft with just a 2080 ti + 9900k, which I have on an ‘asrock z390 sli/ac’ along with my RAM running stable at 4000 MHz, yet I’m only getting around 170 average without RTX enabled, and only 30-35 fps with it enabled, most of the time only running at 30 fps on my 120 Hz 1440p ultrawide monitor. 
 

I do on the other hand only have the EVGA Black, the cheapest 2080 ti out there, and I’ve found that it actually runs at lower power than other 2080 it’s, but would that seriously limit me /that/ much?

 

Does this sound normal?

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Singleplayer or multiplayer? try play in a server so your CPU does less work.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Singleplayer or multiplayer? try play in a server so your CPU does less work.

Single player - you can’t play on servers in the RTX beta unfortunately

 

I really want to look into how to flash a different card’s bios on my card to force it to run at a higher power because I saw someone say that it was possible, but I have no idea where to start

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4 minutes ago, Jared O said:

Single player - you can’t play on servers in the RTX beta unfortunately

On the bedrock edition? I'm sure most people talk about performance in Java edition, not Bedrock.

 

4 minutes ago, Jared O said:

I really want to look into how to flash a different card’s bios on my card to force it to run at a higher power because I saw someone say that it was possible, but I have no idea where to start

if it currently runs 75C or more already, then unless you can turn up the fan speed to maintain that a higher power limit BIOS will not help. Higher temperature decreases frequency.

 

I do assume you've already overclocked it now.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

On the bedrock edition? I'm sure most people talk about performance in Java edition, not Bedrock.

 

if it currently runs 75C or more already, then unless you can turn up the fan speed to maintain that a higher power limit BIOS will not help. Higher temperature decreases frequency.

 

I do assume you've already overclocked it now.

Oh okay that’s good to know, but yeah, Bedrock edition, but I’m sure there’s something limiting my PC instead of it being either edition I’m playing on, because it’s not just this game that I get mediocre results with such a powerful machine, and I’ve spent countless hours total scouring my pc’s bios tinkering with things and nothing works to increase performance

 

For example - 60 fps in gta 5? I don’t understand. I am pretty new to the PC scene, but I thought this card was supposed to be much better

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1 minute ago, Jared O said:

Oh okay that’s good to know, but yeah, Bedrock edition, but I’m sure there’s something limiting my PC instead of it being either edition I’m playing on, because it’s not just this game that I get mediocre results with such a powerful machine, and I’ve spent countless hours total scouring my pc’s bios tinkering with things and nothing works to increase performance

 

For example - 60 fps in gta 5? I don’t understand. I am pretty new to the PC scene, but I thought this card was supposed to be much better

How did you get your RAM to 4GHz? Is it running in dual channel?

 

GTA and Minecraft both care about single core performance and memory a lot relatively speaking

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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5 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

How did you get your RAM to 4GHz? Is it running in dual channel?

 

GTA and Minecraft both care about single core performance and memory a lot relatively speaking

Yeah I can confirm that my bios lists it running in dual channel

 

it took me a few months to figure out how to get it to even run at 4GHz, but all I had to do was increase the voltage to it a tad on a few of the options that you can do so, and now it’s even easier to get them to run it at this speed because after a bios update last week, I only had to increase the core voltage instead of all the other ones you can change with the RAM - guessing it got “used” to the speed. They are 4266 speed sticks, and I can’t go any higher than 4GHz but I’m still very happy with it.

 

By no means am I necessarily complaining, as I still get amazing performance for the resolution I’m playing on and by no means is it unplayable, I’m just slightly worried because of seeing people get much better results than me, sometimes 20+ fps better

 

Maybe it really is just my graphics card and I’ll just have to upgrade to the founders edition of the next series of cards

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3 minutes ago, Jared O said:

Yeah I can confirm that my bios lists it running in dual channel

 

it took me a few months to figure out how to get it to even run at 4GHz, but all I had to do was increase the voltage to it a tad on a few of the options that you can do so, and now it’s even easier to get them to run it at this speed because after a bios update last week, I only had to increase the core voltage instead of all the other ones you can change with the RAM - guessing it got “used” to the speed. They are 4266 speed sticks, and I can’t go any higher than 4GHz but I’m still very happy with it.

 

By no means am I necessarily complaining, as I still get amazing performance for the resolution I’m playing on and by no means is it unplayable, I’m just slightly worried because of seeing people get much better results than me, sometimes 20+ fps better

 

Maybe it really is just my graphics card and I’ll just have to upgrade to the founders edition of the next series of cards

Did you enable XMP? If you dont the timings will be garbage.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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37 minutes ago, Jared O said:

I’m kind of starting to worry at this point, because I saw someone claim 1000+ fps in Minecraft with just a 2080 ti + 9900k, which I have on an ‘asrock z390 sli/ac’ along with my RAM running stable at 4000 MHz, yet I’m only getting around 170 average without RTX enabled, and only 30-35 fps with it enabled, most of the time only running at 30 fps on my 120 Hz 1440p ultrawide monitor. 
 

I do on the other hand only have the EVGA Black, the cheapest 2080 ti out there, and I’ve found that it actually runs at lower power than other 2080 it’s, but would that seriously limit me /that/ much?

 

Does this sound normal?

Hm in all my years of gaming and such I have never heard of someone running minecraft at 1000fps, that just seems a little too fishy.

 

26 minutes ago, Jared O said:

For example - 60 fps in gta 5? I don’t understand. I am pretty new to the PC scene, but I thought this card was supposed to be much better

Well it also depends on what resolution you run it at too, if youre running it at 4k then yeah it will be at a lower frame rate. The same question also applies to the minecraft thing too, if youre running at a higher resolution then it will be slower, the only what I could fesably see anyone running at 1000fps is at a way low res.

 

But what do I know I'm just a highschooler

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45 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Did you enable XMP? If you dont the timings will be garbage.

The only xmp setting is to run my RAM at the max frequency at 4266, which doesn’t work, and I’ve already manually lowered the timings even lower than what it came with back in 2019, as I’ve been trying to increase my pc’s performance ever since June of last year, but I appreciate the response

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36 minutes ago, dat_boi_fluff said:

Hm in all my years of gaming and such I have never heard of someone running minecraft at 1000fps, that just seems a little too fishy.

 

Well it also depends on what resolution you run it at too, if youre running it at 4k then yeah it will be at a lower frame rate. The same question also applies to the minecraft thing too, if youre running at a higher resolution then it will be slower, the only what I could fesably see anyone running at 1000fps is at a way low res.

 

But what do I know I'm just a highschooler

Yeah just 1440p ultrawide. I’ll just get the 3080 ti and see what I get with that. I’m sure that’s my only answer

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3 minutes ago, Jared O said:

Yeah just 1440p ultrawide. I’ll just get the 3080 ti and see what I get with that. I’m sure that’s my only answer

No that shouldnt be the case, any 2080ti is going to perform better than that, my friends 1070ti can run gtav at like 100fps. something might be wrong but clearly i will not be able to provide any sort of usefull help lol, I hope you get this figured out tho

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3 minutes ago, dat_boi_fluff said:

No that shouldnt be the case, any 2080ti is going to perform better than that, my friends 1070ti can run gtav at like 100fps. something might be wrong but clearly i will not be able to provide any sort of usefull help lol, I hope you get this figured out tho

That should mean I just have a bad card then, because I bought the cheapest crappiest one - but I guess only time will tell when the next cards come out

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4 minutes ago, dat_boi_fluff said:

No that shouldnt be the case, any 2080ti is going to perform better than that, my friends 1070ti can run gtav at like 100fps. something might be wrong but clearly i will not be able to provide any sort of usefull help lol, I hope you get this figured out tho

I’m running ultrawide maximum settings besides anti aliasing - maybe your friend just has his settings lower than mine on top of not being on an ultrawide monitor

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26 minutes ago, Jared O said:

The only xmp setting is to run my RAM at the max frequency at 4266, which doesn’t work, and I’ve already manually lowered the timings even lower than what it came with back in 2019, as I’ve been trying to increase my pc’s performance ever since June of last year, but I appreciate the response

You can enable XMP and change some of the numbers. Of course you could turn off XMP completely and do your own timings, though I suspect your memory kit isnt that capable and basically falls off the performance scaling chart.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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8 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You can enable XMP and change some of the numbers. Of course you could turn off XMP completely and do your own timings, though I suspect your memory kit isnt that capable and basically falls off the performance scaling chart.

My kit is this https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-TridentZ-288-Pin-Desktop-F4-4266C19D-16GTZR/dp/B01N4V204L

 

is this a bad brand? if not, maybe my motherboard is the issue because I’ve seen horrific reviews of defective boards with the exact one that I have, but everything seems fine other than slightly lower performance than what I thought I paid for

 

I would hate to have to buy another and go through that entire disgusting process of putting everything back into a new board only to see no changes in performance in the end, so even if my board is the problem for some reason, like it just can’t handle all of this stuff or something, I’d much rather settle for a lower-performing-but-still-better-than-what-I’m-getting-now type of situation with the next series of cards lol

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