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New pc building

Budget (including currency): 200.000HUF - aprox 621USD

Country: Hungary

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: GTA 5, Fortnite, Minecraft, Forza Horizon 4, CS:GO, LoL, Valorant..etc

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc): 

Hi! I want to build a new gamer PC and I picked up some parts on a site that would be good for me. I'm looking for advices to improve this PC if I can save money on any part of it or I can get a better one on the same price or even a bit higher price. I attached the pc build in a picture. And I have a question, about the CPU, I read about this i3-9100 a lot, and I saw the 9100F is kind of the same performance but it doesn't have GPU inside, can it be a problem for me in the future? 

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You might want to look at Ryzen with your budget, the i3-9100 isn't a brilliant buy, and with Ryzen you'll get more cores, and more threads for a similar price (I don't know how the prices are in Hungary though). As for the 9100F, yeah it has no integrated GPU, this shouldn't be an issue, as you'll only use your dedicated GPU (in this case the RX 560), although you might want to look for a better GPU than the RX 560, maybe a GTX 1650 super?

Desktop - i5-9600KF @4.8GHz all core, MSI Z390-A PRO, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz, MSI GTX 1660S OC 6GB, WD Blue 500GB M.2 SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD

Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

Old Laptop 1 - HP Pavilion 15, A10-9600P, R5 iGPU, 8GB, R8 M445DX, 2TB HDD

Old Laptop 2 - HP Pavilion 15 TouchSmart, i3-3217U, Intel HD 4000, 4GB, 1TB HDD

 

iPad 2018 - 128GB

iPhone XR - 128GB

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I dont really know about ryzens, I heard a lots of bad stuff about it, overheats..etc, and the GTX 1650 super is double the price of the rx560 so i'd rather stay with the rx 560 or rebuild the whole pc to fit some better stuff in the price limit 

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4 minutes ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

You might want to look at Ryzen with your budget, the i3-9100 isn't a brilliant buy, and with Ryzen you'll get more cores, and more threads for a similar price (I don't know how the prices are in Hungary though). As for the 9100F, yeah it has no integrated GPU, this shouldn't be an issue, as you'll only use your dedicated GPU (in this case the RX 560), although you might want to look for a better GPU than the RX 560, maybe a GTX 1650 super?

I was about to post a simmilar thing but you beat me to it. The Intel cpus have an average 6% game performance lead in the lower end. Since he isn't planning on video edditing, the Intel could stay? I also agree on the 1650 Super. 

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Like @bengeoghegan11 said, I think Ryzen is worth a look for your build. Ryzen stock coolers are also quite decent, so you might be able to save those 45 bucks for something that'll have impact on your gaming performance. I'd also recommend grabbing a cheap 1TB hard drive for large games and archival storage, so you don't have to clutter up your boot drive. 

My System: 

AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT • Noctua NH-D15 • MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk • 2x8GB G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz CL16 • MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 3070 OC •  Samsung 970 Evo 1TB • Samsung 860 Evo 1TB • Cosair iCUE 465X RGB • Corsair RMx 750W (White) • ASUS VG27AQ • Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum • Logitech G502 Hero

 

Got any questions about my system or peripherals? Feel free to tag me (@bellabichon) and I'll be happy to give you my two cents. 

 

PSA: Posting a PCPartPicker list with no explanation isn't helpful for first-time builders :)

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QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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6 minutes ago, HellHound420 said:

I dont really know about ryzens, I heard a lots of bad stuff about it, overheats..etc,

That's...not really true at all, actually. Reception to Ryzen chips has been pretty great for the past few years, as they've been dramatically undercutting Intel's price-to-performance numbers. Also, most of the Ryzen processors have no problems whatsoever with cooling (some of them even run cooler than Intel's newest chips).

6 minutes ago, HellHound420 said:

and the GTX 1650 super is double the price of the rx560 so i'd rather stay with the rx 560 or rebuild the whole pc to fit some better stuff in the price limit 

Fair enough, but I think it might be worth rethinking your parts list a bit. Since this is a gaming build, focus should be towards the GPU more than anything else.

My System: 

AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT • Noctua NH-D15 • MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk • 2x8GB G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz CL16 • MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 3070 OC •  Samsung 970 Evo 1TB • Samsung 860 Evo 1TB • Cosair iCUE 465X RGB • Corsair RMx 750W (White) • ASUS VG27AQ • Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum • Logitech G502 Hero

 

Got any questions about my system or peripherals? Feel free to tag me (@bellabichon) and I'll be happy to give you my two cents. 

 

PSA: Posting a PCPartPicker list with no explanation isn't helpful for first-time builders :)

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1 minute ago, bellabichon said:

That's...not really true at all, actually.  Reception to Ryzen chips has been pretty great for the past few years, as they've been dramatically undercutting Intel's price-to-performance numbers. Also, most of the Ryzen processors have no problems whatsoever with cooling (some of them even run cooler than Intel's newest chips).

Intel's newer chips, although decent, aren't worth it at a lower price point, with Ryzen you get a lot more bang-for-your-buck, plus better upgradeability in future. And the added peace of mind that when newer games take advantage of all the cores and threads that are offered to them, your Ryzen chip will pull out ahead. Having said that though, I took Intel's bait for my PC, but I would have gone Ryzen if I was looking at a slightly lower price point, especially considering upgrades in future, the furthest I can upgrade is to an i9-9900K, whereas with Ryzen, I have been led to believe that you could even upgrade to Ryzen 4 on certain current motherboards (but don't quote me on that)

Desktop - i5-9600KF @4.8GHz all core, MSI Z390-A PRO, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz, MSI GTX 1660S OC 6GB, WD Blue 500GB M.2 SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD

Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

Old Laptop 1 - HP Pavilion 15, A10-9600P, R5 iGPU, 8GB, R8 M445DX, 2TB HDD

Old Laptop 2 - HP Pavilion 15 TouchSmart, i3-3217U, Intel HD 4000, 4GB, 1TB HDD

 

iPad 2018 - 128GB

iPhone XR - 128GB

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10 minutes ago, HellHound420 said:

I dont really know about ryzens, I heard a lots of bad stuff about it, overheats..etc, and the GTX 1650 super is double the price of the rx560 so i'd rather stay with the rx 560 or rebuild the whole pc to fit some better stuff in the price limit 

Sorry, my bad about the 1650S, I went off memory about the price there, in that case the AMD RX cards seem a better option for you

Desktop - i5-9600KF @4.8GHz all core, MSI Z390-A PRO, 2x8GB Corsair Vengeance 3000MHz, MSI GTX 1660S OC 6GB, WD Blue 500GB M.2 SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM HDD

Laptop - ASUS ZenBook 14 with ScreenPad, i7-1165G7, Xe iGPU 96EU, 16GB Octa-Channel 4200MHz, MX450 2GB, 512GB SSD with 32GB Optane

 

Old Laptop 1 - HP Pavilion 15, A10-9600P, R5 iGPU, 8GB, R8 M445DX, 2TB HDD

Old Laptop 2 - HP Pavilion 15 TouchSmart, i3-3217U, Intel HD 4000, 4GB, 1TB HDD

 

iPad 2018 - 128GB

iPhone XR - 128GB

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1 minute ago, bengeoghegan11 said:

whereas with Ryzen, I have been led to believe that you could even upgrade to Ryzen 4 on certain current motherboards (but don't quote me on that)

You're correct. AMD have been adamant that future Ryzen launches will be compatible with older chipsets. Nice knowing you won't have to throw two components out instead of one when you upgrade.

My System: 

AMD Ryzen 5 3600XT • Noctua NH-D15 • MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk • 2x8GB G.skill Trident Z Neo 3600MHz CL16 • MSI VENTUS 3X GeForce RTX 3070 OC •  Samsung 970 Evo 1TB • Samsung 860 Evo 1TB • Cosair iCUE 465X RGB • Corsair RMx 750W (White) • ASUS VG27AQ • Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum • Logitech G502 Hero

 

Got any questions about my system or peripherals? Feel free to tag me (@bellabichon) and I'll be happy to give you my two cents. 

 

PSA: Posting a PCPartPicker list with no explanation isn't helpful for first-time builders :)

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22 minutes ago, HellHound420 said:

@SavageNeo The RAM and the GPU is not available in my country :(

Look for any 16GB 3200MHZ Cl16 it of RAM

 

And model of RX 570 should be fine as long as it is not a blower.

PC:

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CPU: Ryzen 7 2700x | CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Black | Motherboard: MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX | RAM: 2x16GB Corsair Vengeance LPX 3000MHz CL16 | Storage: Crucial MX500 500GB m.2, Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" | GPU: Gigabyte RX 5700XT | Case: NZXT H510 | PSU: Corsair RM550x

788,303 PPD F@H

 

Peripherals:

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Keyboard: Logitech G513 GX Browns | Mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless | Monitors: Samsung TU7100 43" 4K HDR, 2 xAcer 28" 4K | Heaphones: Sony Platinum Wireless | Mic: Blue Yeti Nano

 

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