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Hi,

 

So I have a Vega 56 and I'm really annoyed by the noise it makes when I'm gaming. It's only spinning at around 2000RPM, which is about half of its full capacity but it can be heard from the other room and I always need to use my headphones.

 

So I'm considering investing in a Rajintek Morpheus Vega and 3 80mm Be quiet! fans. The total would be around $100. So does it make sense to spend that money on cooling only or would it make more sense to just sell it and get a more recent, quieter, and power efficient GPU? How would such a cooling stack up against, say an out of the box RX 5700 XT cooling performance?

 

I'm also considering replacing the two fans on my CPU cooler and my two case fans by 4 Be quiet! Pure Wings 2, at $10 each. I'm currently using 4 Arctic F12 ones. Is this worth it?

 

Thanks

 

PS: Feel free to move it to the Air Cooling section if it fits better there.

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5 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

So I'm considering investing in a Rajintek Morpheus Vega and 3 80mm Be quiet! fans. The total would be around $100. So does it make sense to spend that money on cooling only or would it make more sense to just sell it and get a more recent, quieter, and power efficient GPU? How would such a cooling stack up against, say an out of the box RX 5700 XT cooling performance?

This is a good idea, tho I mysef stick to 120mm fans to keep them interchangable with case fans

 

6 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

I'm also considering replacing the two fans on my CPU cooler and my two case fans by 4 Be quiet! Pure Wings 2, at $10 each. I'm currently using 4 Arctic F12 ones. Is this worth it?

this isn't, Pure Wings are meant to be cheap so they dont perform nearly as well as the Silent wings. imo they are no better than the F12, all you've got from this purchase is white fan blades blue sticker to black fan blades orange sticker.

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get a better air cooler for the card and don't swap the fans.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a Wii and PS2 as your only consoles.

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

This is a good idea

What is a good idea?

And yes I finally found one of these online and at a decent price.

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I mysef stick to 120mm fans to keep them interchangable with case fans

As far as I can see it only accepts 80mm fans.

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

isn't, Pure Wings are meant to be cheap so they dont perform nearly as well as the Silent wings. imo they are no better than the F12, all you've got from this purchase is white fan blades blue sticker to black fan blades orange sticker.

In this case I'd rather buy cheaper 80mm fans too.

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9 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

Any suggestion?

whatever cooler you mentioned should do better than a blower. I would however pick uphttps://pcpartpicker.com/product/Bj8Zxr/noctua-case-fan-nfr8redux1800pwm

it does support 120mm

https://www.raijintek.com/en/products_detail.php?ProductID=94

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12 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

whatever cooler you mentioned should do better than a blower. I would however pick up NF-R8 PWM

These seem to be better than the Be quiet! ones at least, while being cheaper: https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/f8-silent.html

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1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

These seem to be better than the Be quiet! ones at least, while being cheaper: https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/f8-silent.html

then get those, you can use 120mm on the cooler.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a Wii and PS2 as your only consoles.

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HP probook 445R G6 review

 

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1 minute ago, IAmAndre said:

You're correct. I'll get these instead: https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/p12-silent.html

 

Is the absence of PWM a big deal?

just means you don't have great fan control. you'll already struggle if there is no adapter for the board to the external fans so you'll be forced to run 100% or have an external fan controller/use software to control a header

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a Wii and PS2 as your only consoles.

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Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb 860 evo, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

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Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

HP probook 445R G6 review

 

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3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

just means you don't have great fan control. you'll already struggle if there is no adapter for the board to the external fans so you'll be forced to run 100% or have an external fan controller/use software to control a header

Considering that they are 3 times more silent than the PWM model according to the manufacturer, wouldn't it be better to get them and make them run at full speed if needed? I've never replaced a GPU cooler so I don't know what's best.

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29 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

What is a good idea?

And yes I finally found one of these online and at a decent price.

new cooler on old card

 

7 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

You're correct. I'll get these instead: https://www.arctic.ac/worldwide_en/p12-silent.html

 

Is the absence of PWM a big deal?

If you use motherboard or independent fan controller, it's not important. If you use GPU fan header, then it may only support PWM but not DC fan control which leaves you forcing the fans to run at max speed when powered.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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14 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

you use motherboard or independent fan controller, it's not important. If you use GPU fan header, then it may only support PWM but not DC fan control which leaves you forcing the fans to run at max speed when powered

I will only have one fan header left on my motherboard so I'd rather keep things simple and let the GPU control the speed. Maybe I should go for the PWM variant then. Can you check this video at 5:35 please 

It seems like there's another adapter to buy so I'm confused as to how it's supposed to work 

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