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GPU Value? Upgrade thoughts/opinions?

Lord Letto
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Looking to upgrade my MSI Armor OC RX 470 4GB & looking for opinions on price/value for my budget of $150 CAD+ shipping max

So far I've been offered some GTX 970s, haven't been given a price or variant for 1, but 3 with prices, a ASUS Strix for $150 (+shipping, unless he makes a trip to my area), Gigabyte G1 for $120+shipping & a EVGA ACX 2.0 for $100+shipping

Was offered a ASUS Strix RX 580 for $180 firm +shipping but ended up selling to someone else, the other offer so far was a Zotac GTX 1060 3GB for $150 (+shipping?)

There was also a combo of a Ryzen 5 2600X for $150, 2x8GB Ballistix 2666MHz RAM for $80 & ASUS Strix RX 580 that was mined on, mining BIOS & missing a fan blade, I offered $280 either shipped or + shipping with the stock BIOS put back on the card, they said they'd consider it as they wanted to sell it all together, ended up selling to someone else.

Locally on Kijiji there's a MSI Gaming X RX 480 4GB listed for $120, though listing is over a month old so not sure if still available.

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970 isn’t a gigantic boost on a 470.  A 970 is slower than a 580 which is basically the same thing as a 480. In your position I’d save the ducats, turn down my settings, and keep saving till navi21/amphere hit unless you get some sort of spanking deal.  I bought my red dragon new for $usd 150 Plus some tax last Black Friday. 

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36 minutes ago, Lord Letto said:

Looking to upgrade my MSI Armor OC RX 470 4GB & looking for opinions on price/value for my budget of $150 CAD+ shipping max

So far I've been offered some GTX 970s, haven't been given a price or variant for 1, but 3 with prices, a ASUS Strix for $150 (+shipping, unless he makes a trip to my area), Gigabyte G1 for $120+shipping & a EVGA ACX 2.0 for $100+shipping

Was offered a ASUS Strix RX 580 for $180 firm +shipping but ended up selling to someone else, the other offer so far was a Zotac GTX 1060 3GB for $150 (+shipping?)

There was also a combo of a Ryzen 5 2600X for $150, 2x8GB Ballistix 2666MHz RAM for $80 & ASUS Strix RX 580 that was mined on, mining BIOS & missing a fan blade, I offered $280 either shipped or + shipping with the stock BIOS put back on the card, they said they'd consider it as they wanted to sell it all together, ended up selling to someone else.

Locally on Kijiji there's a MSI Gaming X RX 480 4GB listed for $120, though listing is over a month old so not sure if still available.

Dont buy from kijiji or similar sites unless you can confirm functionality by inspecting it yourself before money is exchanged.  Use ebay and make sure the listing is offering paypal guarantee (dont know how things are in the canadian ebay german one has listings with no paypal protection) 

 

As for the upgrade make sure that the card you buy will not get bottlenecked by the rest of your system since you didnt mention your system specs I cant help you with that. 

 

Edit: I am not sure about the fairness of the prices since I dont know how much things usually cost in canadian pesos but rule of thumb is if a price seems too good to be true then its too good to be true run away. 

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Just now, papajo said:

As for the upgrade make sure that the card you buy will not get bottlenecked by the rest of your system since you didnt mention your system specs I cant help you with that. 

Ryzen 3 1200 OCed to 3.9GHz, planning on upgrading, maybe to a Ryzen 7 1700 unless I can find a Ryzen 5 2600(X or non-X). 2x4GB 2400MHz RAM, plan on upgrading to 2x8GB or 4x4GB 2400MHz+

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1 minute ago, Lord Letto said:

Ryzen 3 1200 OCed to 3.9GHz, planning on upgrading, maybe to a Ryzen 7 1700 unless I can find a Ryzen 5 2600(X or non-X). 2x4GB 2400MHz RAM, plan on upgrading to 2x8GB or 4x4GB 2400MHz+

That’s actually a fair amount of cpu.  Light on threads but absolutely fine for the moment.  You can probably put whatever gpu you want on that.

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Just now, Lord Letto said:

Ryzen 3 1200 OCed to 3.9GHz, planning on upgrading, maybe to a Ryzen 7 1700 unless I can find a Ryzen 5 2600(X or non-X). 2x4GB 2400MHz RAM, plan on upgrading to 2x8GB or 4x4GB 2400MHz+

If your main usacase is gaming its not worth to spend all that money for a 1700 if you are going to buy a GPU that will cost only 150 cad which google tells me is about 100 usd which means you wont have many good options (considering what you could get if you add that money you were going to give for the other upgrades and that your CPU is perfectly capable to run recent cards I would get a rx 5600 xt for example or a used vega 64 

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Mainly gaming, though would like to do streams on twitch/youtube & record videos & edit using windows movie maker or similar free video editing software for youtube at some point.

Just thought to check eBay, for what I could possibly get for my $150 CAD+shipping, budget: there's a plethora of RX 480/580 4GB cards worldwide, the 8GB cards would be out of budget unless I stick with 2x4GB 2400MHZ RAM that would increase budget to $200-250 CAD+shipping. cheapest that's not a RX 480/580 or GTX970/1060 would be a GTX 980/1070/1660 for $189 USD ($266.05 CAD) and up+shipping

Cheapest GTX 980 is a Zotac Omega in Lithuania for $189 USD ($266.05 CAD) or Make Offer+$15 USD ($21.11) Standard International Shipping

Cheapest GTX 1070 is a EVGA Gaming ACX 3.0 Black Edition (08G-P4-5171-KR) here in Canada for $300 CAD or Make Offer+$20.27 for Standard Shipping

Cheapest GTX 1660 is a Gigabyte OC from the USA for $219.99 USD ($309.67 CAD) or Make Offer+$15.01 USD ($21.13 CAD) for International Priority Shipping to Canada+$34.51USD (don't say CAD, but google says $34.51 USD=$48.69 CAD) for import Charge

for Comparable price from AMD, cheapest Vega 56 is a Gigabyte Gaming OC from the USA for $210 USD ($295.61 CAD)+$36.08 USD ($50.79 CAD) for International Priority Shipping to Canada

If I include the GTX 1060:

The P106 mining card with no video out would be in budget, but not a option due to the hassle that would be needed for video out & regular/gaming BIOS

For a actual GTX 1060, I was offered a Zotac 3GB for $150+shipping on r/CanadianHardwareSwap, Checking eBay cheapest 1060 3GB is a ASUS Phoenix Fan Edition (PH-GTX1060-3G) here in Canada for $168 CAD+$18.50 for Standard Shipping

Cheapest 1060 6GB is also here in Canada, a Gigabyte ITX OC for $225 CAD+$15 for Standard Shipping

 

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I've been following computer stuff prices on kijiji (province of Québec tho) for about 2 years now and I can tell you that right now is not really the time to buy.  Price went up quite a bit probably cause of covid and people having to sell their stuff and trying to take advantage of people looking for a way to pass the time during confinement. 

 

USUALLY if you can spot a gpu at those price it's a good deal.  those are the prices that were frequently seen pré-covid and I've been seeing those return from time to time in the past 2 weeks cause probably people realize it's hard to sell a used rx 580 for 350 when you can have a brand new for less than that. 

So ...

1070 for 300$ and lower

1070 ti for 350 and lower

1080 for 400 and lower

1080 ti for 600 and lower

rx 470 for 100 and lower

rx 580 for 150 and lower

1060 6gb 150 and lower. 

 

Best deal I saw recently was a 1070 ti for 280$ ... it didn't take long for it to sell. 

Vega 56 for 250 is also quite a good deal. 

 

So hope that can help you a bit.  Honestly for the money you can spend I would just wait for new stuff to come while saving more.  When you buy on kijiji you also have to take into account the gas you burn to get the item.  For me it's usually about 40$ since most of the good deals are around 2 hours drive to get there and another 2 hours drive to come back home. 

 

Also some of the good deal I was able to get ...

rx 470 for 100$ 2 years ago

gtx 970 for 100$ 2 years ago

motherboard asus z97-a usb 3 for 50$

I5 3450 and asrock motherboard for 20$

 

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30 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

When you buy on kijiji you also have to take into account the gas you burn to get the item.  For me it's usually about 40$ since most of the good deals are around 2 hours drive to get there and another 2 hours drive to come back home.

I don't have a licence/vehicle so I don't have to worry about that, I normally take public transit, fare would be $3.25 & get a transfer that lasts 90 minutes that depending on how far I go would only be enough for 1 way so $6.50 max to take a trip to get something locally unless they are willing to meet somewhere closer to me.

30 minutes ago, Dr0y said:

Also some of the good deal I was able to get ...

rx 470 for 100$ 2 years ago

My current RX 470 is 1 of 2 I got for $114 total in December 2018/January 2019, Bought 1 off eBay but when it arrived it was not as described as it had a mining BIOS that seller had made no mention of, filed a INAD case, seller responded & apologized saying he had lots of cards to sell & only 2-3 had modded BIOS & he didn't remember what ones they were, he had 1 left that he checked & didn't have a modded BIOS, he could either send the one he had left & if it works I could keep both or I could return the card I received for a full refund, I accepted the 2nd card & it works (the one I currently have in my computer), only issue is temps hit 90-91*C under load while gaming but still works, so I got 2x MSI Armor OC RX470 4GB cards for $114 CAD total, that would be like $57 CAD each, if I were to do the TLC to flash a BIOS on the 1 card & do fresh thermal paste on both, I'm sure I could perhaps sell them for $80 each for $160 total for like $46 profit, or if a EVGA Supernova G2 550W is enough, I could possibly do Crossfire.

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That's a great price for those rx 470.  I would totally flash the bios back to original and try to get the most out of one of them and sell the other while waiting for new stuff to come out. 

 

Crossfire is kind of a dying thing and sometimes can lead to more problem than what it's worth ... but having two gpu is just a really nice thought. 

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If you’re going to sell one of them, do it before Navi21/amphere come out.  Keep the money and try to add to it so that when navi21/amphere come out you’ll have something to buy a card with.  Right now you don’t.

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16 hours ago, Lord Letto said:

Cheapest GTX 1660 is a Gigabyte OC from the USA for $219.99 USD ($309.67 CAD) or Make Offer+$15.01 USD ($21.13 CAD) for International Priority Shipping to Canada+$34.51USD (don't say CAD, but google says $34.51 USD=$48.69 CAD) for import Charge

Forgot to mention as it never showed up in my search though I have it in my watch list (likely never showed up due to being out of stock currently), but Newegg Canada got/had a Refurbished Gigabyte GTX 1660 OC for $252+$10 shipping for standard Shipping from Outside Canada, item location is from the USA: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1660-DirectX-12-GV-N1660OC-6GD-6GB-192-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Expres/173990315952

Checking the newegg.ca site, for that price (before tax & shipping) I could get a New GTX 1060 3GB, GTX 1650 Super or RX 580 8GB, a few dollars extra would be a RX 5500 XT 4GB, checking for Open Box & Refurb options, a extra $55 from the RX 5500 XT 4GB price ($255+tax & shipping) would get a Open Box 5500 XT 8GB though there are some New options for a little less than the Open Box, the Open Box would be $310 while cheapest New would be $290, New GTX 1660 starts at $300, a Used GTX 1070 off eBay could likely be had about that price (Looking at my Watch list for some GTX 1070 I had added to it,  there's 1 in stock still here in Canada, the Gigabyte Mini ITX OC for $330 or Make Offer+$25.90 for Expedited Shipping, listed as Manufacturer refurbished with 9 month Manufacturer Warranty remaining).

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10 minutes ago, Lord Letto said:

Forgot to mention as it never showed up in my search though I have it in my watch list (likely never showed up due to being out of stock currently), but Newegg Canada got/had a Refurbished Gigabyte GTX 1660 OC for $252+$10 shipping for standard Shipping from Outside Canada, item location is from the USA: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/GIGABYTE-GeForce-GTX-1660-DirectX-12-GV-N1660OC-6GD-6GB-192-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Expres/173990315952

Checking the newegg.ca site, for that price (before tax & shipping) I could get a New GTX 1060 3GB, GTX 1650 Super or RX 580 8GB, a few dollars extra would be a RX 5500 XT 4GB, checking for Open Box & Refurb options, a extra $55 from the RX 5500 XT 4GB price ($255+tax & shipping) would get a Open Box 5500 XT 8GB though there are some New options for a little less than the Open Box, the Open Box would be $310 while cheapest New would be $290, New GTX 1660 starts at $300, a Used GTX 1070 off eBay could likely be had about that price.

1060, 1650S, rx580 are all roughly similar speed, with the 1060 being the weakest of the lot iirc. So 1650S (which is not the 1650) for lower electrical draw, 580 for more memory. 

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