worth changing GPU thermal paste ?

[GameOver94]

Hi , 

I changed my GPU thermal paste on july 2019 , by that time the temps on stress tests usually won´t go higher than 75ºc to 78º c now on last months it goes up between to 80-83ºc  . My gpu is a XFX RX 580 GTS XXX 4gb , from what I´ve read this card seems to be a hot card from the factory anyway . I wish to know if there´s any need to change the thermal past? or the colling solution will not going to be any better?  or my temps are about normal?  I have a custom  fan curve on MSI Afterburner that I will let here . 

 

[fuzz0r]

You're still in the safe zone with those temperatures and don't need to yet but if it continues to rise then I'd try it again and see what that does.

I find it strange you have to do it already though.

[Bombastinator]

My move personally would be to blow off the fins and reassessing before taking the thing apart.

[GameOver94]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

My move personally would be to blow off the fins and reassessing before taking the thing apart.

I have blowed all the dust on my computer recently so it´s not dust .

[GameOver94]

16 minutes ago, fuzz0r said:

You're still in the safe zone with those temperatures and don't need to yet but if it continues to rise then I'd try it again and see what that does.

I find it strange you have to do it already though.

thanks , a bit hotter than I would like but good to know that is still safe . yes it´s strange about the thermal past , should not be hard already that soon ... so that´s why it let me think if it is really worth it or can be something else or if it is just about normal for this card 

[Yebi]

That paste is less than 10 months old. Even the biggest tinkering enthusiasts, who seem to be looking for an excuse to take the card apart more than anything else, say that paste is good for about a year (realistically it's a lot longer than that). I'd look for a problem elsewhere.

[NineEyeRon]

My RX 580 on a tolerable fan curve still hits 80 when folding but never while gaming. I really have to stress it to get that high. 

 

It doesn't overclock at all without causing massive fan noise issues however, then again it was only £220 new...

 

I have considered changing the paste as it still has the original factory application from Jan 2018. I will admit it didn't get much use for 7 months of 2018 due to saving up for a new rig after my old one died, so its really only had about 20 months of use in that time.

 

I would say its strange to need to repaste so often, mine is in a toasty ITX case with only one exhaust but it at least has a 140mm fan blowing right at it.

 

Heaven Benchmark near end of run (24/26) in spoiler, PC was idle before. Sound is tolerable but around 2k RPM it is audible but not through normal gaming headphones.

 

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[GameOver94]

2 minutes ago, Yebi said:

That paste is less than 10 months old. Even the biggest tinkering enthusiasts, who seem to be looking for an excuse to take the card apart more than anything else, say that paste is good for about a year (realistically it's a lot longer than that). I'd look for a problem elsewhere.

I am only seeing room temperature being higher hen ,  but I don´t have how to compare it with other tests. I don´t have to meausure the room temps 

[GameOver94]

5 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

My RX 580 on a tolerable fan curve still hits 80 when folding but never while gaming. I really have to stress it to get that high. 

 

It doesn't overclock at all without causing massive fan noise issues however, then again it was only £220 new...

 

I have considered changing the paste as it still has the original factory application from Jan 2018. I will admit it didn't get much use for 7 months of 2018 due to saving up for a new rig after my old one died, so its really only had about 20 months of use in that time.

 

I would say its strange to need to repaste so often, mine is in a toasty ITX case with only one exhaust but it at least has a 140mm fan blowing right at it.

the thermal paste was only changed once on 2019 after having thermal issues that have shutdown the card on stress tests , on games it does not go to 80ºc but stays close on some games , like 78-79ºc on max . the card have about 3 years but was bought used with 1 year and half of usage so I do not know what was the use of the card before anyway

[GameOver94]

11 minutes ago, NineEyeRon said:

 

 

Heaven Benchmark near end of run (24/26) in spoiler, PC was idle before. Sound is tolerable but around 2k RPM it is audible but not through normal gaming headphones.

 

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well mine goes about the same rpm , I ´ve got about 80-81ºc on that benchmark . 

[Bombastinator]

It might be useful to think about the cooling chain.  There is ambient air which is blown into a case with fans, through the cooler vanes.  So there’s 3 or 4 other variables to look at right there.  What has changed?  What is subject to change?

[GameOver94]

1 minute ago, Bombastinator said:

It might be useful to think about the cooling chain.  There is ambient air which is blown into a case with fans, through the cooler vanes.  So there’s 3 or 4 other variables to look at right there.  What has changed?  What is subject to change?

the problem is that I use the same cooling system for years...  and there´s no dust in my computer . so nothing in colling have changed , only could have change the temperature in my room but I don´t have how to know that .  I even can see by the Motherboard and CPU temperatures that the temperature on both don´t have changed since I have built my computer and it´s been 6 years that I have the same cpu and motherboard . 

[Bombastinator]

2 minutes ago, Rui Neves said:

the problem is that I use the same cooling system for years...  and there´s no dust in my computer . so nothing in colling have changed , only could have change the temperature in my room but I don´t have how to know that .  I even can see by the Motherboard and CPU temperatures that the temperature on both don´t have changed since I have built my computer and it´s been 6 years that I have the same cpu and motherboard . 

Fans age.  Humidity and barometric pressure change.  “No dust” is impossible.  NASA can’t even manage that one in clean rooms.  “No dust bunnies” I would believe.  Are the cooling fins shiny or dull?  

[GameOver94]

16 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Fans age.  Humidity and barometric pressure change.  “No dust” is impossible.  NASA can’t even manage that one in clean rooms.  “No dust bunnies” I would believe.  Are the cooling fins shiny or dull?  

okay fan´s age but they can cool down the whole system and not the GPU ??  that there´s no dust enough to be bad for colling system it´s almost with no dust at all . the fin´s look about normal I think 

 

[GameOver94]

about Humidity and barometric pressure  I have no idea @Bombastinator

[Bombastinator]

3 minutes ago, Rui Neves said:

about Humidity and barometric pressure  I have no idea @Bombastinator

Those won’t matter much if the numbers have been the same for multiple years.  Humidity and barometric pressure can affect ambient air cooling capacity.  They generally only matter at all in extreme circumstances.

[GameOver94]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Those won’t matter much if the numbers have been the same for multiple years.  Humidity and barometric pressure can affect ambient air cooling capacity.  They generally only matter at all in extreme circumstances.

well that´s what I am saying only thing that have changed is the temperature on GPU really , what gets me really confuse because I don´t have bad temps on games but on stress tests it seems that the temps go high to fast and stays between the 80 to 83ºc , and on games I really didn´t see to pass the 79ºc  even on crysis 3 or fortnite LOL .  so in my case nothing have changed at least that I can measure but the temps on GPU have changed a bit ... from what I´ve seen I am not in danger but it is a bit hot . 

[Bombastinator]

Old fans, microfilm on the gpu fins are both still more likely than a dying paste job.  It’s arguable none of it matters.

[GameOver94]

10 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

Old fans, microfilm on the gpu fins are both still more likely than a dying paste job.  It’s arguable none of it matters.

thank you for the help, really can not see enough dust on the fins from the outside that could Interfere on cooling but maybe inside could be some dust , I had blowed the dust  off from the GPU not so long ago ... so from the outside I think I did all I can , about the old fan´s ,only if the GPU fans itself are the cause because Case fan´s I not really believe because the Motherboard and CPU temps are fine , like my CPU only reaches to 50ºc on full load ... My motherboard reaches to like 35ºc on full system load , my case is a large mid tower . with 1 top fan , 1 back , and two front fans .... and it´s been like that for years ... the problem with the GPU is happening at most for 1 month . The GPU itself in my hands have 1,5 years ... the fans getting old on GPU itself would be weird too I think .