Please Help me save 400$

[Olitzh]

Hello, I'm quite reluctantly using a HP BA120NG (Convertible X360 Pavilion) Laptop.

 

Laptops Can be quite depressing when it comes to bios.

 

If anyone coule help me I'd save myself from Buying a Desktop PC.

 

(I can use a NVME to x4 Adapter for a GPU, and I'm using a 65W TDP Heatsink, because my Screen broke and only using the motherboard.)

HP Support Seems Quite ok, I found this online https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Notebooks/How-do-I-change-configurable-TDP-power-limits/td-p/7215523

 

 

SO WHAT I NEED TO DO:

Turbo Boost is fine with its 3.3 GHz on I5 8250U,

unless I want to use it for more than 9ms. Then It throttles to 15W (thanks hp) despite 25W TDP on intels website.

this is 1.8 GHZ. I get hardly 50°C so temperaturre REALLY is no issue.

 

The TDP is Locked and not adjustable via XTU or Throttlestop.

(XTU won't install on my hardware)

 

 

I REALLY NEED TO have this function unlocked in the BIOS.

 

Since I am not using the Laptop in the enclosure, my cooling does a really good job. I would like to unlock the 3.3GHz Turbo as an FULL TIME turbo, i Guess that would be about 30W.

 

 

If you can't help me, please help me learn:

What book do I need to read to understand a 2017ish bios uefi, what tools can I use to unpack, edit and reflash my custom Bios? How do I find datasheets for my chipset (this has been so hard, doesn't seem like a widely used one)

CHIPSET: Kaby Lake, HP83C5 (even though the BiOS file is named 083C4)

 

RW Everything would rock, but bios editing.... help pls!!!

 

(Attach Is BIos exe, unpack with archiver for .bin file)

if anyone know how do I convert the BIN file to a file that is readable by the (outdated???) Insydeh20 TOOL?

 

 

 

 

(file with the long name is the insyde h2o tool,,, my bios is not h20 but made by insyde)

f16t4639p76294n2_ZsCcLHda.zip sp100858(1).exe

[Radium_Angel]

11 minutes ago, Olitzh said:

I would like to unlock the 3.3GHz Turbo as an FULL TIME turbo, i Guess that would be about 30W.

And that would work, for about 15 minutes before you melted the mobo.

HP makes some *real* shit, and it's very carefully made to tolerate the exact specs and nothing more. Exceeding the design that HP had in mind, would likely result in a melted mobo, or the shit that HP passes off as solder holding the CPU on the mobo.

 

[Olitzh]

9 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

And that would work, for about 15 minutes before you melted the mobo.

HP makes some *real* shit, and it's very carefully made to tolerate the exact specs and nothing more. Exceeding the design that HP had in mind, would likely result in a melted mobo, or the shit that HP passes off as solder holding the CPU on the mobo.

 

I really dont want these kind of comments.

 

If you know something about BIos or this chipset, or TDP locks, or HP, then share ur knowledge.

 

I can Literally heatsink every single component on the motherboard if I need to

EDIT: I already had to simulate the Fan with a microcontroller cause otherwise the CPU locks to 700 MHz.

I hate Bios

I love Hardware modding.

Please someone needs to help.

[Olitzh]

23 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

How does the title relate to the post?

 

As for the post, you can't really flash laptop BIOS's like you can desktops. You can update them, but that usually comes through a .exe or .msi file that the OEM provides.

 

Laptops usually have terrible locked down BIOS's/UEFI's to prevent your from fucking the laptop up and breaking things.

I put the exe into my op.

 

But speaking of not flashing bios,

where would I look for the Hardware (Platform) TDP Limits?

 

[TylerDurden!]

1 hour ago, Olitzh said:

i Guess that would be about 30W.

Just try renaming the file to the extension your tool wants and see if it opens.  Maybe you will get lucky

 

You only have a 45w power supply too and all of those watts are probably already accounted for, especially in a laptop, even if you could what would you really be gaining?   

[Olitzh]

3 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

?

That won't be possible on your laptop. Most laptops do not allow you to change this.

1) Exe for Flashing Bios is posted above for evaluator

 

2) The Bios is just POOOR there is literally 0 customization...

I'm asking for RW everything. Modifying something in the IO.........

[Olitzh]

2 minutes ago, TylerDurden! said:

Just try renaming the file to the extension your tool wants and see if it opens.  Maybe you will get lucky

 

You only have a 45w power supply too and all of those watts are probably already accounted for, especially in a laptop, even if you could what would you really be gaining?   

I'll try, dont think so though cause despite manufractured by Insyde it's not a "H2O"

 

The Power Block is 65 W.

And I will be using a PCIe (4x) GPU so no need to Supply for the Internal MX940 (15W (?))

[Olitzh]

2 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

It's seriously not worth your trouble to do all of this. It's gonna take a very long time to achieve. Why don't you sell your laptop and put that money towards a PC?

Cause the Screen Broke.

While in a Protective Case

In a bag with Soft things.

Props to HP for the Quality of Product

[Olitzh]

7 minutes ago, TylerDurden! said:

Just try renaming the file to the extension your tool wants and see if it opens.  Maybe you will get lucky

 

 

Wow this Actually Worked...

 

It loaded into the tool.

 

So new Problem,

as pointed out

42 minutes ago, NZgamer said:

Laptops usually have terrible locked down BIOS's/UEFI's to prevent your from fucking the laptop up and breaking things.

"Invalid Public Key for secure Flash"....

so maybe no Chance?

I don't see myself getting to a HP public key anytime soon

 

[TylerDurden!]

4 minutes ago, Olitzh said:

"Invalid Public Key for secure Flash"....

when did you get that error?

[TylerDurden!]

maybe you could force the bios to update by putting your modded bios on the recovery drive naming it whatever the recovery bios is.    Yeah, that should really screw things up.  Assuming you were able to even save the bios, don't forget to make a copy of your current one too.

[Olitzh]

Regardless, where In the BIOS file would I Even Start looking for the TDP settings?

[Radium_Angel]

11 hours ago, Olitzh said:

then share ur knowledge.

I did.

Not my fault you don't want to hear the truth.

 

I have worked hand in hand with HP engineers in the past. You are wasting your time. HP laptops, especially their "consumer" line, are total garbage. The documentation for the BIOS is non-existent, modding tools don't really exist outside some ex-HP guys who snuck out with them, and even those are changed/updated almost yearly to prevent "unauthorized" usage, like what you are trying to accomplish.

 

It's also entirely possible the CPU is locked from Intel, burned into ROM that way, so even if you could mod the BIOS, the CPU would likely ignore you.

[Olitzh]

9 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

I did.

Not my fault you don't want to hear the truth.

 

I have worked hand in hand with HP engineers in the past. You are wasting your time. HP laptops, especially their "consumer" line, are total garbage. The documentation for the BIOS is non-existent, modding tools don't really exist outside some ex-HP guys who snuck out with them, and even those are changed/updated almost yearly to prevent "unauthorized" usage, like what you are trying to accomplish.

 

It's also entirely possible the CPU is locked from Intel, burned into ROM that way, so even if you could mod the BIOS, the CPU would likely ignore you.

 

 

I feel so stupid buying this 800€ Laptop....

thanks though. Thought Packard Bell was bad, now seems really friendly in comparaison