Ryzen upgrade !!

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

Currently I'm running ryzen 3 1200 , gigabyte A320m motherboard, 8GB ram and 1050 ti gpu . 

 

I was thinking to upgrade it step by step. 

I mostly play fps games like rainbow six siege, Apex legend, COD .

 

What should I upgrade first ?

I'm in tight budget so upgrading things all at once would be hard for me !  

 

My plan was to by a b450 motherboard then 16GB and then a cpu as it has a high price in my country .. 

Please comment your suggestions.. thanks. ! 

Stay home, be safe

[Jurrunio]

what are the specs of the memory? 1x8gb or 2x4gb? Frequency?

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

It's 2400 mhz, 1x8GB 

[AndreiArgeanu]

I mean upgrading to a b450 motherboard and 16gb of ram isn't a bad idea consider that a320m motherboards are bad, and then upgrading the cpu. For a b450 motherboard, the Asrock B450 Pro4 makes for a good upgrade. However in your country motherboards might have different prices, so just in case before buying look at the LTT Motherboard Tier list, under the section AM4. The tiers range from S to F with S being the best and F the worst (it goes S, A, B, C, D, E, F). The B450 pro 4 is rated as a D on the tier list and ideally the next motherboard you get you want it to ideally be tier D or higher. After the motherboard upgrade perhaps don't buy the ram and save for a better GPU ideally or CPU.

 

[iBabySlapper]

Mmmm, I think GPU would be the biggest step forward for you atm. Maybe a 5600XT or whatever the Nvidia equiv. is? Or you could go up to a R5 1600AF, if your heart desires more cores. It pretty much depends on what your current budget is.

I wouldn't worry too much about mobo, unless there's something missing from it that you want (networking, storage, RGB, etc). Recent Ryzen doesn't gain as much as 1st gen from OCing. You'll survive with an A320 board.

 

Memory should be okay, if gaming is all you're doing. DRAM prices aren't exactly amazing right now, unlike a few months ago.

 

If CPUs/GPUs are unreasonably expensive in your country, try looking at Aliexpress. I bought a RX570 off Aliexpress for £65 a while ago to put into my 24/7 Folding PC, and it's been working great. The prices are pretty decent, as long as you don't mind waiting a month for delivery.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

It's 2400 mhz, 1x8GB 

then depending on budget, another stick of 2400MHz 8GB DDR4 or a full kit of 2933MHz (or more) 2x8GB DDR4 will be the way to go.

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

Memory should be okay, if gaming is all you're doing.

He's literally in memory bottleneck hell since the CPU is a 1st gen Zen part

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

2 minutes ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

I mean upgrading to a b450 motherboard and 16gb of ram isn't a bad idea consider that a320m motherboards are bad, and then upgrading the cpu. For a b450 motherboard, the Asrock B450 Pro4 makes for a good upgrade. However in your country motherboards might have different prices, so just in case before buying look at the LTT Motherboard Tier list, under the section AM4. The tiers range from S to F with S being the best and F the worst (it goes S, A, B, C, D, E, F). The B450 pro 4 is rated as a D on the tier list and ideally the next motherboard you get you want it to ideally be tier D or higher. After the motherboard upgrade perhaps don't buy the ram and save for a better GPU ideally or CPU.

 

I was thinking to buy msi b450 gaming plus motherboard ! 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-gaming-plus

 Then may be r5 3500x !! 

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

4 minutes ago, ibabyslapper said:

Mmmm, I think GPU would be the biggest step forward for you atm. Maybe a 5600XT or whatever the Nvidia equiv. is? Or you could go up to a R5 1600AF, if your heart desires more cores. It pretty much depends on what your current budget is.

I wouldn't worry too much about mobo, unless there's something missing from it that you want (networking, storage, RGB, etc). Recent Ryzen doesn't gain as much as 1st gen from OCing. You'll survive with an A320 board.

 

Memory should be okay, if gaming is all you're doing. DRAM prices aren't exactly amazing right now, unlike a few months ago.

 

If CPUs/GPUs are unreasonably expensive in your country, try looking at Aliexpress. I bought a RX570 off Aliexpress for £65 a while ago to put into my 24/7 Folding PC, and it's been working great. The prices are pretty decent, as long as you don't mind waiting a month for delivery.

5600xt will bottleneck with my cpu :(( 

 

[iBabySlapper]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

He's literally in memory bottleneck hell since the CPU is a 1st gen Zen part

Yeah, I wrote that before I read he only has one stick. He should at least get one more first.

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

It's 2400 mhz, 1x8GB 

 

 

Dual channel memory is a big deal for Ryzen, some DDR4 3000 and a 6 core processor goes a long way. What's the used market like in your country?

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then depending on budget, another stick of 2400MHz 8GB DDR4 or a full kit of 2933MHz (or more) 2x8GB DDR4 will be the way to go.

Thanks  ! What if i buy 3200 mhz 2x8 DDR4 ? 

Is that okay with the cpu ? As A320 doesn't support OC !! 

[AndreiArgeanu]

1 minute ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

I was thinking to buy msi b450 gaming plus motherboard ! 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-gaming-plus

 Then may be r5 3500x !! 

The b450 Gaming Plus is rated a C so it's actually quite a good motherboard. The ryzen 5 3500x is great but ideally if possible spend the extra on a 3600 as long as it does not cost too much more money.

[iBabySlapper]

1 minute ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

5600xt will bottleneck with my cpu :(( 

 

Yeah, it probably will. But it's also the thing that'll make the biggest initial difference, aside from another stick of RAM (I typed before I learned you only had one stick). You can then upgrade CPU afterwards.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

Thanks  ! What if i buy 3200 mhz 2x8 DDR4 ? 

Is that okay with the cpu ? As A320 doesn't support OC !! 

A320 doesnt support OC on the CPU, but it does for memory. 3200MHz is good but the pricing is usually a significant step up from 2933/3000MHz kits which is why I dont recommend them right away

[Fasauceome]

6 minutes ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

I was thinking to buy msi b450 gaming plus motherboard ! 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-gaming-plus

 Then may be r5 3500x !! 

The Ryzen 5 3500X would be adequate inside your current motherboard, one important consideration for graphics card update is the specific PSU you are using.

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

The Ryzen 5 3500X would be adequate inside your current motherboard, one important consideration for graphics card update is the specific PSU you are using.

It's 450 watt. 

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

It's 450 watt. 

What is the specific PSU you are using?

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

A320 doesnt support OC on the CPU, but it does for memory. 3200MHz is good but the pricing is usually a significant step up from 2933/3000MHz kits which is why I dont recommend them right away

In my country 3000/3200 mhz has literally the same price.. Okay then I'll go for 2x8GB ram . 

Thanks a lot  

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

Just now, Fasauceome said:

What is the specific PSU you are using?

It's from Corsair . https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/vs-series-config-2018/p/CP-9020170-NA

 

[iBabySlapper]

I don't know where you live, and how much RAM costs there, but if prices are a bit high, you could always go Aliexpress.

These 3000Mhz 8GB sticks are pretty cheap, and they usually use Micron chips (which aren't the best for Ryzen, but they should hit XMP with the latest AGESA.)

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32978664644.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.582c51e9tGil4D&algo_pvid=b2f96dfc-5254-4ca7-8889-6a878a40d177&algo_expid=b2f96dfc-5254-4ca7-8889-6a878a40d177-7&btsid=0b0a187915862965583173124e8da1&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_

 

Yes, Gloway is a legit brand. They're in QVL lists for mobos.

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

It's from Corsair . https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Power-Supply-Units/vs-series-config-2018/p/CP-9020170-NA

 

Tough to recommend a high end setup on a Corsair VS. I recommend the money you were gonna spend on the motherboard go to a new PSU, like a Corsair CX

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

25 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

A320 doesnt support OC on the CPU, but it does for memory. 3200MHz is good but the pricing is usually a significant step up from 2933/3000MHz kits which is why I dont recommend them right away

16-18-18-36 ( Corsair ) vs 16-18-18-38-2N (trident z) vs 16-16-16-36 (g skill) - all 3200Mhz 

Could you please explain which one is better ad why. 

Thanks ! @Jurrunio

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Didarul Hossain Rafi said:

16-18-18-36 ( Corsair ) vs 16-18-18-38-2N (trident z) vs 16-16-16-36 (g skill) - all 3200Mhz 

Could you please explain which one is better ad why. 

Thanks ! @Jurrunio

Frequency is the number of ticks per second, number in timings is the number of ticks each process takes, so lower is better. In practice the first number (CAS latency) matters most and you can roughly estimate latency by frequency / CAS latency, lower latency helps performance.

 

i.e. 16-16-16-36 is the best

 

but I think you're reading 16-16-16-36 with its base settings which is 2400MHz or 2666MHz (some kits do have multiple XMP profiles)

[Didarul Hossain Rafi]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Frequency is the number of ticks per second, number in timings is the number of ticks each process takes, so lower is better. In practice the first number (CAS latency) matters most and you can roughly estimate latency by frequency / CAS latency, lower latency helps performance.

 

i.e. 16-16-16-36 is the best

 

but I think you're reading 16-16-16-36 with its base settings which is 2400MHz or 2666MHz (some kits do have multiple XMP profiles)

So which one should I pick ? 

Please recommend one