Mixing metals.

[EmoChipmonk]

so im looking at getting some rather large radiators but they cost like 150cad for shipping alone. The reason im looking at them is they are copper and the block im getting is nickle plated copper so i was wondering how quickly would the effects of mixing metals show up in my loop?

[W-L]

1 hour ago, EmoChipmonk said:

so im looking at getting some rather large radiators but they cost like 150cad for shipping alone. The reason im looking at them is they are copper and the block im getting is nickle plated copper so i was wondering how quickly would the effects of mixing metals show up in my loop?

Metals such as nickel, copper and brass are very compatible with each other and will not suffer the issues like aluminum and copper mixing. You will still want to use a proper fluid as they will have some corrosion inhibitors to protect the plated surfaces. 

[EmoChipmonk]

3 minutes ago, W-L said:

Metals such as nickel, copper and brass are very compatible with each other and will not suffer the issues like aluminum and copper mixing. You will still want to use a proper fluid as they will have some corrosion inhibitors to protect the plated surfaces. 

Ya i have some liquid in mind i plan on getting but its either i go with the aluminum TT ones for around 430$ or i go with the alpha cool ones and pay 560 because of stupid shipping costs so im curious as how long it would take for the effects to show up?

[W-L]

1 minute ago, EmoChipmonk said:

Ya i have some liquid in mind i plan on getting but its either i go with the aluminum TT ones for around 430$ or i go with the alpha cool ones and pay 560 because of stupid shipping costs so im curious as how long it would take for the effects to show up?

As most will tell you it's not even worth the effort to work with mixed metal loops especially for custom applications. The thermal take rads are considered to be some of the worst options you can choose as they zinc plated them for "corrosion" resistance but in doing so they will destroy themselves and ruin most loops as zinc is not acceptable product to have inside. 

 

If you are looking at a middle ground you can get all aluminum loops like the fluid gaming lineup, note as they are a cost effective solution you are more limited in block and accessory options. 

[EmoChipmonk]

1 minute ago, W-L said:

As most will tell you it's not even worth the effort to work with mixed metal loops especially for custom applications. The thermal take rads are considered to be some of the worst options you can choose as they zinc plated them for "corrosion" resistance but in doing so they will destroy themselves and ruin most loops as zinc is not acceptable product to have inside. 

 

If you are looking at a middle ground you can get all aluminum loops like the fluid gaming lineup, note as they are a cost effective solution you are more limited in block and accessory options. 

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/radiators/active-radiators/15236/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-560mm-radiator

at best this was my plan to get for my loop. 2 of them. Needs to be 4 140mm fans.

[W-L]

Just now, EmoChipmonk said:

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/radiators/active-radiators/15236/alphacool-nexxxos-monsta-560mm-radiator

at best this was my plan to get for my loop. 2 of them. Needs to be 4 140mm fans.

Those are good rads but if you have the space you are much better off getting more rad space and thinner rads than extra thick ones as the performance doesn't scale in thickness compared to just adding additional rads. For example a two 40mm thick Alphacool 560mm rads will easily outperform one of those single 80mm thick Monsta Rad.

 

Being that it's a total of eight 140mm spaces even for a really high end system that would be more than enough for silent cooling at full load.

 

If you have access Hardware Labs makes really high performance rads such as the GTS series or thicker Black Ice SR2 type.

http://hardwarelabs.com/nemesis/gts/560gts/

http://hardwarelabs.com/blackice/sr2/560-mp/

[EmoChipmonk]

Just now, W-L said:

Those are good rads but if you have the space you are much better off getting more rad space and thinner rads than extra thick ones as the performance doesn't scale in thickness compared to just adding additional rads. For example a two 40mm thick Alphacool 560mm rads will easily outperform one of those single 80mm thick Monsta Rad.

 

Being that it's a total of eight 140mm spaces even for a really high end system that would be more than enough for silent cooling at full load.

 

If you have access Hardware Labs makes really high performance rads such as the GTS series or thicker Black Ice SR2 type.

http://hardwarelabs.com/nemesis/gts/560gts/

http://hardwarelabs.com/blackice/sr2/560-mp/

I kinda screwed my self and got a tower 900 for my dream build and now im commited.

So somthing like thse ones? 

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/radiators/active-radiators/15934/alphacool-nexxxos-st30-full-copper-560mm-radiator?c=20543

[W-L]

1 minute ago, EmoChipmonk said:

I kinda screwed my self and got a tower 900 for my dream build and now im commited.

So somthing like thse ones? 

https://www.alphacool.com/shop/radiators/active-radiators/15934/alphacool-nexxxos-st30-full-copper-560mm-radiator?c=20543

The super thick rads will give you additional performance don't get me wrong but for the dollar amount you will not be essentially doubling you cooling by doubling the thickness. 

 

If you want to go with thinner ones the GTS are what I would recommend they have more surface area due to a double folded find array and higher FPI. It makes it a little tougher to push air through so they are best with slightly higher RPM fans but being that it's a thin rad it balances itself out. The only downside of that rad is the high restriction it has so a good pump like a DDC or D5 is a must. 

 

If you want silence the thicker SR2 is best suited for lower RPM fans. 

https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/hardwarelabs-nemesis-360-gts-radiator-review/5/

 

 

[EmoChipmonk]

On 4/4/2020 at 10:37 PM, W-L said:

The super thick rads will give you additional performance don't get me wrong but for the dollar amount you will not be essentially doubling you cooling by doubling the thickness. 

 

If you want to go with thinner ones the GTS are what I would recommend they have more surface area due to a double folded find array and higher FPI. It makes it a little tougher to push air through so they are best with slightly higher RPM fans but being that it's a thin rad it balances itself out. The only downside of that rad is the high restriction it has so a good pump like a DDC or D5 is a must. 

 

If you want silence the thicker SR2 is best suited for lower RPM fans. 

https://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/hardwarelabs-nemesis-360-gts-radiator-review/5/

 

 

Is there anythign wrong with the thermal take pump res combo? or is it fine? If there is a problem would you have somthing similar to recomend?

 

[W-L]

57 minutes ago, EmoChipmonk said:

Is there anythign wrong with the thermal take pump res combo? or is it fine? If there is a problem would you have somthing similar to recomend?

Their pump combo tube res units are good I'd recommend the D5 series pump, it's only really the aluminium series of rads which are junk.

[EmoChipmonk]

Just now, W-L said:

Their pump combo tube res units are good I'd recommend the D5 series pump, it's only really the aluminium series of rads which are junk.

ok thats good because that combo fits perfectly in my case and i dont know if i would be able to custom a mount for any other ones or seperate units.

https://www.amazon.ca/Thermaltake-Pacific-PR22-D5-Adjustable-CL-W082-PL00BL/dp/B0185C4XHA/ref=sr_1_1?crid=24ZYU4KARDOS&keywords=thermaltake+pump+and+reservoir&qid=1586236215&sprefix=thermaltake+pump%2Caps%2C197&sr=8-1

[SavageNeo]

decent pump there.