780 ti blocks

[Joshua Ondangan]

hey guys so I decided to grab my self a 780 ti since someone is buying my 780. (can't seem to refuse the price). (lol bought my 780 at the us and the 780 here are much more expensive and I'm getting more than what I pay for even if I sell it used).

 

the one I'm eyeing right now is a reference 780 ti so I'm looking for a waterblock before I trigger my frozencpu order. these are the waterblocks I'm eyeing on.

 

swiftech komodo (titan) the full cover block one and the swiftech komodo 780 (if either of them will fit a ref 780 ti then I'll just grab the titan as titan sounds cool).

titan http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20092/ex-blc-1456/Swiftech_Komodo-NV_GTX_Titan_Full_Cover_VGA_Waterblock_w_Backplate_KOMODO-NV-GTXTITAN.html?tl=g30c311s1879&id=kRoVuFmf&mv_pc=7375#blank

780 http://www.frozencpu.com/products/20218/ex-blc-1459/Swiftech_Komodo-NV_GTX_780_Full_Cover_VGA_Waterblock_w_Backplate_KOMODO-NV-GTX780.html?tl=g30c311s1996&id=kRoVuFmf&mv_pc=7755

 

 

or should I just go get a 

 

ek 780ti nickel + acetal then grab some backplate whichever looks pretty.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/22130/ex-blc-1581/EK_GeForce_780_GTX_Ti_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_Acetal_EK-FC780_GTX_Ti_-_AcetalNickel.html?tl=g30c311s1996&id=kRoVuFmf&mv_pc=7799

 

 

 

 

[LukaP]

i really like the look of the XSPC ones, otherwise if you want a custom card, EK does blocks for 780ti Classy and Kingpin from EVGA

[Joshua Ondangan]

well I really liked the swiftech one that I listed up there. is there a way to know if it really fits? cause if not I'll just grab some full cover block w/ backplate from ek. just that the xspc one looks sexy.

[LukaP]

cooling configurator. 

 

and pretty much all the blocks you see fit on the reference boards, Classy fits on the Classy and kingpin

[Joshua Ondangan]

well this one shows http://www.coolingconfigurator.com/step1_complist

 

all ek blocks I was hoping for that swiftech block. if they have a configurator it would be nicce (gonna look for it).

[VSG]

lol that website is an EK website so of course they would only have EK products in there. I know Swiftech does not have a certified block for the reference 780Ti yet as their new Komodo blocks are not yet released. So unless you really like the look of the new Komodo blocks (look up their CES pictures/videos) and are willing to wait, go get another block now and be done with it.

[Joshua Ondangan]

I see thank you vsg. guess I'll just wait for that block for now.

 

btw just wondering are water cooling parts like taxable? not country basis just what is seen globally?

 

was thinking of ordering some ut60 as I can still exchange the ex360mm that I have for something else.

[VSG]

Typically any import duty should be included in the internation shipping rates but I have seen cases where the buyer gets another bill anyway. Best to confirm from the seller!

[warmmilk]

based on my experience with the swiftech block, and the test's I've seen of other blocks and the swiftech block, and the price of a swiftech block,  I'd get something else.  the only reason I got mine is cause I bought the Hydro card.  If I was buying them separately I'd go with a cheaper block that performs better.

[Spongeworthy]

based on my experience with the swiftech block, and the test's I've seen of other blocks and the swiftech block, and the price of a swiftech block,  I'd get something else.  the only reason I got mine is cause I bought the Hydro card.  If I was buying them separately I'd go with a cheaper block that performs better.

 

If I'm remembering this correctly. Don't the Komodo/Hydro blocks passively cool the VRMs?

 

To the OP. Watercooling the reference 780ti in my opinion is kind of pointless since it's voltage locked to 1.212v, which the reference cooler can handle easily. The only way to unlock the voltage is through hardmodding. You're better off getting the classified... unless you're doing this purely for aesthetics, and/or acoustics.

[LukaP]

If I'm remembering this correctly. Don't the Komodo/Hydro blocks passively cool the VRMs?

 

To the OP. Watercooling the reference 780ti in my opinion is kind of pointless since it's voltage locked to 1.212v, which the reference cooler can handle easily. The only way to unlock the voltage is through hardmodding. You're better off getting the classified... unless you're doing this purely for aesthetics, and/or acoustics.

custom bios?

 

also, watercooling is mostly done for looks and silence, not for uber performance, since most people just dont voltmod their GPUs

[warmmilk]

If I'm remembering this correctly. Don't the Komodo/Hydro blocks passively cool the VRMs?

 

To the OP. Watercooling the reference 780ti in my opinion is kind of pointless since it's voltage locked to 1.212v, which the reference cooler can handle easily. The only way to unlock the voltage is through hardmodding. You're better off getting the classified... unless you're doing this purely for aesthetics, and/or acoustics.

 

I'd don't know about VRM part, I was strictly speaking of gpu temp.  the komodo/hydro block seams to do about 10 degree warmer than other blocks.

 

as for the second part, watercooling overall isn't worth the money for performance gain

However, saying its not worth watercooling a reference card over a custom card isn't accurate.  Just look at linus's 780 vs 290(x?) watercooling vid.  IIRC they gained 7-10% over air.  I have a Classified card and I don't think its worth it.  If I had to buy it again I'd go with the cheapest custom PCB card I can find, and I also wouldn't go watercooled.  I don't think its worth the hastle from any perspective, performance or noise.  You're not getting a silent system no matter what, you can get very quiet, but never silent.  An air cooled system can be plenty quiet under normal usage, and I don't really care about it getting a bit louder under gaming.  Sound from the game drowns out the PC noise anyway.  You'd get much better bang for your buck going 780Ti SLI over a single card watercooled, and prolly spend less money too.

[TheNinjaNextDor]

The Komodo is great. I would get that. Great cooling and full vrm coverage. It also comes with a really sturdy backplate and looks really nice.

[warmmilk]

The Komodo is great. I would get that. Great cooling and full vrm coverage. It also comes with a really sturdy backplate and looks really nice.

do you have it? what kinda temps are you getting under gaming?

[TheNinjaNextDor]

do you have it? what kinda temps are you getting under gaming?

Ya. I get 35 AVG and top out at 38-40C. Whats your rad config?

[warmmilk]

Ya. I get 35 AVG and top out at 38-40C. Whats your rad config?

 

ut60 420- noctua nf-14, st30 360- noiseblocker eloop, st30 240- noctua nf-f12.  I'm usually in the 45* range on the gpu with ambient of 25ish C.  my watertemp usually levels out in the low 30's under gaming.  but even when I just start playing, when watertemp is still in the low 20's, my gpu temp jumps up into the 40's as soon as I launch a game

 

whats yours?  also, which games?  I'm assuming they're modern games that can fully load up the gpu?

[TheNinjaNextDor]

Oh. Thats better than mine. I have XT45 360 and XTX 240 (60mm thick) both with NF F12. I used BF4 and Unigen Valley at 1440P. Games like titanfall beta level out at 35C. I used Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. I also think i should mention my cpu is oc to 4.5 so i throws about 70-80C in the loop.

[warmmilk]

Oh. Thats better than mine. I have XT45 360 and XTX 240 (60mm thick) both with NF F12. I used BF4 and Unigen Valley at 1440P. Games like titanfall beta level out at 35C. I used Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste. I also think i should mention my cpu is oc to 4.5 so i throws about 70-80C in the loop.

 

I have the Hydro card, so it came with the block installed.  Maybe EVGA uses really really crappy thermal paste, but honestly I don't think there's a TIM that would make a 10* difference...  My 4770k is OC'd to 4.6 with the EK Supremacy block on it and Phobya TIM.  under gaming I usually don't break 60, Intel stress test it hits low 70's.  My cpu isn't delidded or anything either.

[Spongeworthy]

custom bios?

 

also, watercooling is mostly done for looks and silence, not for uber performance, since most people just dont voltmod their GPUs

 

I said the only way to unlock the voltage was through hardmodding. You can't unlock the voltage through bios modding either, it's hardware locked to 1.212v, there's nothing you can do about that.

 

I guess you''re right though. It's a crime however not to overclock this beast of a card, this card was meant to be overclocked. The 780ti looks nice with the stock cooler, and is relatively quiet when you don't overvolt it, so really that begs the question of why watercool in the first place.

 

 

I'd don't know about VRM part, I was strictly speaking of gpu temp.  the komodo/hydro block seams to do about 10 degree warmer than other blocks.

 

as for the second part, watercooling overall isn't worth the money for performance gain

However, saying its not worth watercooling a reference card over a custom card isn't accurate.  Just look at linus's 780 vs 290(x?) watercooling vid.  IIRC they gained 7-10% over air.  I have a Classified card and I don't think its worth it.  If I had to buy it again I'd go with the cheapest custom PCB card I can find, and I also wouldn't go watercooled.  I don't think its worth the hastle from any perspective, performance or noise.  You're not getting a silent system no matter what, you can get very quiet, but never silent.  An air cooled system can be plenty quiet under normal usage, and I don't really care about it getting a bit louder under gaming.  Sound from the game drowns out the PC noise anyway.

 

 

Water doesn't run under the VRAM or the VRMs.

 

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2013/10/03/nvidia-gtx780titan-water-block-roundup/6/

 

The temps are 30C higher than the competition, I guess if you plan on watercooling the Ti which is voltage locked, it wouldn't matter much anyway. Also in the video you're talking about, if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't push the voltage, and he also does not overclock the cards either. All Linus really did was remove the throttling provided by gpuboost, which you could do anyway just by flashing a custom BIOS, disabling gpu boost, and you can still get reasonable temperatures on air. I also never said you shouldn't watercool a reference card over a non-ref, you're taking what I said completely out of context. What I said was overclocking the reference 780ti wasn't worth it since it was voltage locked

[VSG]

Don't base the upcoming 780 Ti Komodo blocks off the older results, the new blocks are completely redesigned so they may well perform differently.

[warmmilk]

I said the only way to unlock the voltage was through hardmodding. You can't unlock the voltage through bios modding either, it's hardware locked to 1.212v, there's nothing you can do about that.

 

I guess you''re right though. It's a crime however not to overclock this beast of a card, this card was meant to be overclocked. The 780ti looks nice with the stock cooler, and is relatively quiet when you don't overvolt it, so really that begs the question of why watercool in the first place.

 

 

 

 

Water doesn't run under the VRAM or the VRMs.

 

http://www.xtremerigs.net/2013/10/03/nvidia-gtx780titan-water-block-roundup/6/

 

The temps are 30C higher than the competition, I guess if you plan on watercooling the Ti which is voltage locked, it wouldn't matter much anyway. Also in the video you're talking about, if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't push the voltage, and he also does not overclock the cards either. All Linus really did was remove the throttling provided by gpuboost, which you could do anyway just by flashing a custom BIOS, disabling gpu boost, and you can still get reasonable temperatures on air. I also never said you shouldn't watercool a reference card over a non-ref, you're taking what I said completely out of context. What I said was overclocking the reference 780ti wasn't worth it since it was voltage locked

 

He did overclock the cards, but regular overclock, no hardware voltage unlock or custom bios or anything...  most people even with watercooling won't be doing any of that...

[warmmilk]

Don't base the upcoming 780 Ti Komodo blocks off the older results, the new blocks are completely redesigned so they may well perform differently.

 

considering the OP is asking about the blocks available right now with links to the specific blocks on frozencpu, this doesn't really figure into the question

[Spongeworthy]

 

Don't base the upcoming 780 Ti Komodo blocks off the older results, the new blocks are completely redesigned so they may well perform differently.

 

 

Where's your source on that? The only thing the 780ti PCB has different as far as I can tell is that one piece of the vrm section is slightly longer. Doesn't make sense that they would completely redesign the block just for that purpose, especially when the voltage is locked.

[VSG]

considering the OP is asking about the blocks available right now with links to the specific blocks on frozencpu, this doesn't really figure into the question

 

Read the first page, I mentioned this and the OP said he would wait for the new Komodo blocks.

 

 

 

 

 

Where's your source on that? The only thing the 780ti PCB has different as far as I can tell is that one piece of the vrm section is slightly longer. Doesn't make sense that they would completely redesign the block just for that purpose, especially when the voltage is locked.

 

 

Why do you think everyone has released new 780 Ti blocks then? We had this discussion previously: http://www.ekwb.com/news/412/19/EK-FC-Titan-SE-incompatible-with-NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-780-Ti---EK-FC780-GTX-Ti-in-the-making/

 

Voltage locked or not, there is a market for water cooling reference cards and there will always be waterblocks for high end reference cards. As far as the new design, look at this video:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7SVOonofv8 (Around 6:40)

[warmmilk]

Read the first page, I mentioned this and the OP said he would wait for the new Komodo blocks.

 

 

 

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