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i have some belkin router connected to my main access point but for some reason i have to restart the belkin every morning by hooking it up to a laptop. idk if its my main access point or what but id take any advice. mind you the main access point is a isp sold cable modem by arris.

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1 minute ago, Moonman21 said:

i have some belkin router connected to my main access point but for some reason i have to restart the belkin every morning by hooking it up to a laptop. idk if its my main access point or what but id take any advice. mind you the main access point is a isp sold cable modem by arris.

btw its this router https://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F9K1102/

 

 

 

 

 

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this would be the modem Arris TG 862 G/NA  ARRIS Touchstone Telephony Gateway TG862

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So... What IS the budget? We don't all have the same definition of "budget". To me it could be up to 40$ while for you it could it under $30.

What is your budget for a router?

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3 minutes ago, Moonman21 said:

this would be the modem Arris TG 862 G/NA  ARRIS Touchstone Telephony Gateway TG862

This is called a wireless internet gateway. It has modem, router, switch and wireless access point features all built into one device.

 

If you wire another router to this gateway, you have to put it in "bridged" mode... in effect turning that router into a simple switch or just an wireless access point. If you don't, both devices will try to perform routing functions which will always bring conflict on the network. In a simple home networking setup, you don't want to do this or else you'll always get the problems you are getting now.

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4 minutes ago, Falcon1986 said:

This is called a wireless internet gateway. It has modem, router, switch and wireless access point features all built into one device.

 

If you wire another router to this gateway, you have to put it in "bridged" mode... in effect turning that router into a simple switch or just an wireless access point. If you don't, both devices will try to perform routing functions which will always bring conflict on the network. In a simple home networking setup, you don't want to do this or else you'll always get the problems you are getting now.

how do i do it?

 

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16 minutes ago, Falcon1986 said:

This is called a wireless internet gateway. It has modem, router, switch and wireless access point features all built into one device.

 

If you wire another router to this gateway, you have to put it in "bridged" mode... in effect turning that router into a simple switch or just an wireless access point. If you don't, both devices will try to perform routing functions which will always bring conflict on the network. In a simple home networking setup, you don't want to do this or else you'll always get the problems you are getting now.

i set up the router as an access point will that help? it said it would remove routing and firewall functions.

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1 hour ago, Moonman21 said:

i set up the router as an access point will that help? it said it would remove routing and firewall functions.

Yes it would help. Putting the Arris box in to bridge mode depends on your ISP. In some cases the option is aviable to the user, in other cases the ISP has to enable it and in even other cases you CANT. 

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1 hour ago, Donut417 said:

Yes it would help. Putting the Arris box in to bridge mode depends on your ISP. In some cases the option is aviable to the user, in other cases the ISP has to enable it and in even other cases you CANT. 

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You have to dig thru the settings. You do relize that not all firmware comes from the same source. Each company has their own way of doing things. Also QoS on most consumer grade equipment sucks ass. QoS should be its own option if its not, then maybe look in WAN settings. Cant help much with any more than that. OR dont use a gateway, personally Id never touch a Gateway with a 100 foot pole. 

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4 hours ago, Moonman21 said:

i set up the router as an access point will that help? it said it would remove routing and firewall functions.

The instructions for doing this for your Belkin router are here. And yes, that's what will happen.

 

However, if you can log into your gateway's administration interface and activate "bridge" mode, your gateway will essentially just act like a modem and hand off all routing/switching/AP to your Belkin router which you can set up as normal.

 

Activating this bridge mode can be difficult on different gateways. When there isn't an obvious "switch" to do this, you'll have to manually turn off the access point/WiFi, turn off DHCP for the LAN and/or set a static IP for your Belkin router. Then set your Belkin to automatically assign LAN IPs well outside of the IPs assigned to the gateway and Belkin router. Sometimes, you might have to put the Belkin router on a different subnet (e.g. 192.168.2.1 instead of 192.168.1.2, if the gateway is on 192.168.1.1).

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