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1 minute ago, StanicEnemy said:

I see, can you tell me what makes the msi one best among all others i listed above? the pcb design or poor mosfet design? for an example if i get that asus or gigabyte one, will i end up having problems in the future or i will end up wasted my money for nothing?

Gigabyte stacked powerstages like they overdosed their engineers with way too much caffine and got high, which on one hand lets it handle the 9900K with ease but they forgot to wake up the programmers so the BIOS design is still... not really intuitive.

 

Asus Z390-H is a Z390-P's reskin, itself some random H or B chipset Prime board with overclocking support. Power delivery is not competitive at all, havent tried its memory OC but I'm not surprised if it does worse than what you would expect from Coffee Lake.

 

Asus Z390-A is a downgraded Z390-F/E (whichever doesn't support wireless),  features worsened but VRM and memory OC capabilities are similar (until you put a pro behind the monitor)

 

MSI is just like the balance between everything, decent mosfets, big heatsinks, a user interface designed for normal humans and not techies only. Sadly this also means there's nothing worth bragging about, its mosfets are still not as powerful nor efficient as powerstages on the Gigabyte Aorus and Asus Z390-A boards, but the BIOS, while designed differently to Asus, is still somewhat intuitive and easy to learn.

 

Though talking about wasting money for nothing, you can't really go worse than investing on a soon dead platform. 10th gen is already in rumoured stage, which means its official launch will be within half a year.

Hi! First off i live in Turkey, everything is overpriced here, i have picked up a few motherboards to share here, i want to get i5-9600KF,16gb ram and a good motherboard for it.

 

DO NOT RECOMMEND ME AMD.


These motherboards I found for my budget.I want to buy the best motherboard among them, if you have any other option please feel free to share with me.

 

This website is where im going to make orders. https://www.itopya.com/bilgisayar-parcalari/ana-parcalar/anakart/?o=far&f=n&oid={_1837_:[7771],_4972_:[4973]}

https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z390-AORUS-ELITE-rev-10#kf

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PLUS

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-Z390-GAMING-EDGE-AC

 

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-STRIX-Z390-H-GAMING/

 

My current system is

 

CPU:Intel i5 4440 3.1ghz 1150
GPU:Nvidia GTX 1050ti MSI Gaming X
CPU Cooler:Be quiet! Shadow Rock TF2
PSU:Seasonic 520w Bronze 80plus evo edition
PC Case:Aerocool Liquid Solution 5200-6x Fan+fan controller
PC Fans:Corsair Quiet edition RED AF120 -Aercool lightning 12cm-Aerocool Dark Force 12cm
HDD:WD Blue ezex 2017 edition 7200rpm 1tb 64mb cache
HDD:Seagate 500gb 5900 rpm 6mb cache
SSD:Corsair Force Le 200 120gb 500 write/read speed
Mobo:Asus H81M-C
Ram:8GB 1600mhz

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33 minutes ago, StanicEnemy said:

DO NOT RECOMMEND ME AMD.

OK BOOMER.

 

But yes the aorus elite is the best one of them. The asus one is good too.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

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Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Elite is on paper the best but has the worst BIOS design, 2nd place (by a decent margin) is the Edge AC, 3rd place the Gaming Plus. Z390-H is so bad that I won't consider it for a 9600KF, unless you plan on making it run at the speed of a Ryzen 5 6 core.

 

12 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

The asus one is good too.

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8 sets of 4C09B and 4C06B in 4 phase mode... Unlikely to blow up with a 9600KF but it's not good at all.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, StanicEnemy said:

My current system is

are you only upgrading the CPU, motherboard and Ram?

 

because id halt on that and instead get a non-group reg PSU and a GPU. 

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51 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Elite is on paper the best but has the worst BIOS design, 2nd place (by a decent margin) is the Edge AC, 3rd place the Gaming Plus. Z390-H is so bad that I won't consider it for a 9600KF, unless you plan on making it run at the speed of a Ryzen 5 6 core.

 

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8 sets of 4C09B and 4C06B in 4 phase mode... Unlikely to blow up with a 9600KF but it's not good at all.

Does that means all of four is not good at all and i should look for another mobo? can you recommend me one from this website? my budget for mobo is 1600 TL.
https://www.itopya.com/bilgisayar-parcalari/ana-parcalar/anakart/?o=far&f=n&oid={_1837_:[7771],_4972_:[4973]}

 

33 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

are you only upgrading the CPU, motherboard and Ram?

 

because id halt on that and instead get a non-group reg PSU and a GPU. 

Yes only cpu mobo and ram.
I am fine with my gpu its still rocking hard and for psu i dont plan to change it any soon before i upgrade my spec.

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4 minutes ago, StanicEnemy said:

Yes only cpu mobo and ram.
I am fine with my gpu its still rocking hard and for psu i dont plan to change it any soon before i upgrade my spec.

in gaming you really wont get any performance increase in most titles. 

 

and if you are going to upgrade the CPU, mobo and Ram. i really do suggest waiting for next gen intel. as you will get HT as a bonus. something that will greatly improve the performance (you get the same benefit by buying a CPU under one of the other 3 x86 providers, but you allready refuted that possibility). 

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Either if them are enough for 9600K but Aorus has potential to be used with 9900K for example. And yes, swap that PSU when you'll be getting new GPU, not because of wattage but it's topology.

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17 minutes ago, StanicEnemy said:

Does that means all of four is not good at all and i should look for another mobo? can you recommend me one from this website? my budget for mobo is 1600 TL.
https://www.itopya.com/bilgisayar-parcalari/ana-parcalar/anakart/?o=far&f=n&oid={_1837_:[7771],_4972_:[4973]}

Asus Z390-A if wireless is not necessary, otherwise get the MSI Edge AC

 

 

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Asus Z390-A if wireless is not necessary, otherwise get the MSI Edge AC

 

 

I see, can you tell me what makes the msi one best among all others i listed above? the pcb design or poor mosfet design? for an example if i get that asus or gigabyte one, will i end up having problems in the future or i will end up wasted my money for nothing?

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1 minute ago, StanicEnemy said:

I see, can you tell me what makes the msi one best among all others i listed above? the pcb design or poor mosfet design? for an example if i get that asus or gigabyte one, will i end up having problems in the future or i will end up wasted my money for nothing?

Gigabyte stacked powerstages like they overdosed their engineers with way too much caffine and got high, which on one hand lets it handle the 9900K with ease but they forgot to wake up the programmers so the BIOS design is still... not really intuitive.

 

Asus Z390-H is a Z390-P's reskin, itself some random H or B chipset Prime board with overclocking support. Power delivery is not competitive at all, havent tried its memory OC but I'm not surprised if it does worse than what you would expect from Coffee Lake.

 

Asus Z390-A is a downgraded Z390-F/E (whichever doesn't support wireless),  features worsened but VRM and memory OC capabilities are similar (until you put a pro behind the monitor)

 

MSI is just like the balance between everything, decent mosfets, big heatsinks, a user interface designed for normal humans and not techies only. Sadly this also means there's nothing worth bragging about, its mosfets are still not as powerful nor efficient as powerstages on the Gigabyte Aorus and Asus Z390-A boards, but the BIOS, while designed differently to Asus, is still somewhat intuitive and easy to learn.

 

Though talking about wasting money for nothing, you can't really go worse than investing on a soon dead platform. 10th gen is already in rumoured stage, which means its official launch will be within half a year.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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