New PC for college ~_~

[killer5247]

So I will be going to college next year and I am looking to get this sort of build I am from India and I could only find these parts in my budget (my budget is 1,50,000) while I will be buying a basic laptop with maybe 1050 for 50k and I am looking for a white minimalistic build which I can custom water-cool later...

All this was able to fit in my pricing as they are thoroughly different in the states and india plus I am getting an MSI ventus rtx 2080 not duke

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6XbTZf

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($174.99 @ B&H) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM SE 63 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($159.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: ADATA XPG SPECTRIX D60G 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($129.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($623.99 @ Best Buy) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 650 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.98 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: LG 29UM58-P 29.0" 2560x1080 75 Hz Monitor  ($235.23 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1770.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-19 06:57 EST-0500

 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

Storage: ADATA SU635 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($56.99 @ Amazon) 

a slow DRAMless QLC SSD... the eyesore of the whole build, defintiely. Get a TLC SATA one like the MX500 instead

 

2 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 

Quite weak, but not outrageous

 

3 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

custom water-cool later...

Watercooling with these components (even if you go) is completely for show and not for performance, I have to say

[killer5247]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

a slow DRAMless QLC SSD... the eyesore of the whole build, defintiely. Get a TLC SATA one like the MX500 instead

 

Quite weak, but not outrageous

 

Watercooling with these components (even if you go) is completely for show and not for performance, I have to say

Well about the ssd I will look for the MX 500 on the site I am looking to buy from and about the motherboard can you suggest something around the same price?

And yeah about water-cooling the rig,

I want to really talk about that should I move to the intel platform?

[kelvinhall05]

If you're thinking about water cooling later don't drop $170 on an AIO.

 

Get a good air cooler instead.

[19_blackie_73]

4 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

And yeah about water-cooling the rig,

I want to really talk about that should I move to the intel platform?

na, worse performance per dollar/rupee/monetery unit. Moving to Intel will give you less cores or at least threads, it isn't worth it. And custom watercooling is only a "sensible" thing for all top of the line components, as you can't get better performance if you spend the money you'd spend of watercooling on other components - so if you got the 3600 and do a custom loop, you could easily get a 3900 or 3950x and have way more performance than the 3600 oc'ed further than what you can achieve with air.

[killer5247]

5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

If you're thinking about water cooling later don't drop $170 on an AIO.

 

Get a good air cooler instead.

That's a good thought but I want aesthetics

[killer5247]

5 minutes ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

na, worse performance per dollar/rupee/monetery unit. Moving to Intel will give you less cores or at least threads, it isn't worth it. And custom watercooling is only a "sensible" thing for all top of the line components, as you can't get better performance if you spend the money you'd spend of watercooling on other components - so if you got the 3600 and do a custom loop, you could easily get a 3900 or 3950x and have way more performance than the 3600 oc'ed further than what you can achieve with air.

Yeah that's a point I could just ignore the custom loop idea to later

[kelvinhall05]

Just now, killer5247 said:

That's a good thought but I want aesthetics

I mean if you want to drop $170 for a cooler in a mid-range build...go for it. But it's a really shitty idea, and air coolers are just as sexy as AIOs.

[killer5247]

3 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

I mean if you want to drop $170 for a cooler in a mid-range build...go for it. But it's a really shitty idea, and air coolers are just as sexy as AIOs.

There are not many WHITE air coolers as sexy as a white AIO but where do I put in the price saved from the AIO? Maybe build me a new parts list 

[kelvinhall05]

22 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

There are not many WHITE air coolers as sexy as a white AIO but where do I put in the price saved from the AIO? Maybe build me a new parts list 

Maybe put the money back into your bank account, lol. Don't need to spend all the money on the PC.

[killer5247]

5 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Maybe put the money back into your bank account, lol. Don't need to spend all the money on the PC.

Parent's are going to pay it by the bank account and not letting me a lay a finger on it once again :')

[killer5247]

51 minutes ago, kelvinhall05 said:

Maybe put the money back into your bank account, lol. Don't need to spend all the money on the PC.

As you said I totally changed the build from top to bottom so that I can get more of the performance rather than spending it over aesthetics 

 

1 hour ago, 19_blackie_73 said:

na, worse performance per dollar/rupee/monetery unit. Moving to Intel will give you less cores or at least threads, it isn't worth it. And custom watercooling is only a "sensible" thing for all top of the line components, as you can't get better performance if you spend the money you'd spend of watercooling on other components - so if you got the 3600 and do a custom loop, you could easily get a 3900 or 3950x and have way more performance than the 3600 oc'ed further than what you can achieve with air.

So can you both please take a look at this one?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMXJp8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($308.96 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($60.00) 
Monitor: Acer KG271 Cbmidpx 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($225.46 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1798.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-19 08:33 EST-0500

[Jurrunio]

4 hours ago, killer5247 said:

about the motherboard can you suggest something around the same price?

 

2 hours ago, killer5247 said:

So can you both please take a look at this one?

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rMXJp8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($308.96 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Video Card: Zotac GeForce RTX 2080 8 GB GAMING AMP Video Card  ($699.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Gigabyte B-H 700 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($60.00) 
Monitor: Acer KG271 Cbmidpx 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($225.46 @ Amazon) 
Headphones: Kingston HyperX Cloud II 7.1 Channel  Headset  ($74.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1798.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-19 08:33 EST-0500

SATA and NVMe SSD don't differ at all in user experience, I've tried the Samsung 840 Pro and HP EX920 and they feel the same in system booting and game loading.

 

Stock cooler of the CPU is like the "bottom line" cooling necessary. so expect quite a bit of noise and 90C+ easy with Indian temperature. Limited case airflow (NZXT don't do good airflow cases, H500 series still managed to be the worst offender as far as those they still make)

 

That PSU is not good for something this expensive

 

The monitors are completely different, Higher refresh rate helps with gaming that cares about low input latency, but TN panels don't produce colour that well.

[killer5247]

1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

 

SATA and NVMe SSD don't differ at all in user experience, I've tried the Samsung 840 Pro and HP EX920 and they feel the same in system booting and game loading.

 

Stock cooler of the CPU is like the "bottom line" cooling necessary. so expect quite a bit of noise and 90C+ easy with Indian temperature. Limited case airflow (NZXT don't do good airflow cases, H500 series still managed to be the worst offender as far as those they still make)

 

That PSU is not good for something this expensive

 

The monitors are completely different, Higher refresh rate helps with gaming that cares about low input latency, but TN panels don't produce colour that well.

The ssd I found was very cheap and it's NVME so there will be less cable shitting around and about the cooler I cut price on that if you could suggest a white CPU cooler around 30 USD or 4k INR I would take and about the monitors I wasn't able to find the LG one on any of the sites and the acer one was easily available Ik that the LG one was curved IPS and 75hz while Acer one is 144hz and TN I will just take the Acer one for start and will buy a good IPS monitor later in the time I will definitely be in need of double monitors and yeah the PSU lemme take a look at some other's maybe a better one like 80+ gold on some sites

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

The ssd I found was very cheap and it's NVME so there will be less cable shitting around

I dont know if it's cheap, but there are M.2 SATA SSDs as well. M.2 is what takes aways two cables per drive, not NVMe.

 

4 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

about the cooler I cut price on that if you could suggest a white CPU cooler around 30 USD or 4k INR

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black edition (has a variant with RGB LED fan)? I think CM has a big presence in south asia

 

15 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

maybe a better one like 80+ gold on some sites

80+ rating doesnt have much to do with quality, only efficiency.

[killer5247]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I dont know if it's cheap, but there are M.2 SATA SSDs as well. M.2 is what takes aways two cables per drive, not NVMe.

 

Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black edition (has a variant with RGB LED fan)? I think CM has a big presence in south asia

 

80+ rating doesnt have much to do with quality, only efficiency.

Well so is there anything wrong with the ssd? It's PCie Gen 3 m.2 NVME

I don't think I need a tower looking at myself out of the window maybe I will look at some cryorig mini coolers with face looking at the glass and about the PSU there are options I have seen maybe I will have to stretch my budget..

And about the motherboard it falls in tier 3 so maybe it's just alright I can't spend more on it

 

[Jurrunio]

9 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

Well so is there anything wrong with the ssd? It's PCie Gen 3 m.2 NVME

Price maybe, I can't see that, could maybe get higher capacity out of that. Not necessarily only the MX500 either, also the Samsung 8xx Evo drives, Adata SU800, Kingston UV500. The P34A80 SSD itself is solid

 

14 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

don't think I need a tower looking at myself out of the window maybe I will look at some cryorig mini coolers with face looking at the glass

Low profile coolers like the C7 are just as bad as the stock cooler. Size means 80% of things for cooling.

[killer5247]

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Price maybe, I can't see that, could maybe get higher capacity out of that. Not necessarily only the MX500 either, also the Samsung 8xx Evo drives, Adata SU800, Kingston UV500. The P34A80 SSD itself is solid

 

Low profile coolers like the C7 are just as bad as the stock cooler. Size means 80% of things for cooling.

In India all the M.2 and sata ssd's price almost the same the game is of capacity 

And the cooler man if you know any white air cooler which has good performance you're welcome and maybe make a PCPP list under 1800 USD if you want to help me further 

[Jurrunio]

26 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

any white air cooler which has good performance you're welcome

Phanteks has couple of them, check them out.

[killer5247]

2 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Phanteks has couple of them, check them out.

How about this phanteks one's are very expensive I will just change the fans later in life

[Jurrunio]

19 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

How about this phanteks one's are very expensive I will just change the fans later in life

Let's say the MA series look more appealing than their actual performance (i.e. big but not that cool nor quiet), sufficient for a 3700X though. Btw on the side of cheap things, the Deepcool Neptwin white is also an option

[killer5247]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Let's say the MA series look more appealing than their actual performance (i.e. big but not that cool nor quiet), sufficient for a 3700X though. Btw on the side of cheap things, the Deepcool Neptwin white is also an option

The white model is extremely expensive in the country while the RGB one is cheaper

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, killer5247 said:

The white model is extremely expensive in the country while the RGB one is cheaper

then I hope white spray paint is cheap, just paint the frame of the fans and top of the heatsink.

[killer5247]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

then I hope white spray paint is cheap, just paint the frame of the fans and top of the heatsink.

Wouldn't that ruin my warranty? 

i can definitely do that tho it will be fun :3  okay so deepcool neptwin RGB it is?

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, killer5247 said:

Wouldn't that ruin my warranty? 

i can definitely do that tho it will be fun :3  okay so deepcool neptwin RGB it is?

Neptwin and MA610P? are in the same level of performance, so it really depends on which one is cheaper. Or maybe you prefer the fancy plastic on the MA610P?