Build list ready, concerned about stuff.

[gtx1337]

Questions: 

1. Is ram speed with 3600mhz useable with this setup or can I settle with 3000mhz?

2. Is the motherboard missing some good features? Like XMP?

3. Is the PSU with 1000W too much? Or can I settle with 650W?

4. Are there any features missing in the components? For example newer versions of usb ports or stuff like XMP?

5. Is there a better i7 or i9 for a better price? Are there any components in the list that I can replace for a better one with same price? Or redundant leading to waste of money?

6. Are there any questions I should be asking myself?

 

Before you ask:
I don't want to use SLI.
I don't want AMD. (Not my choice)

I don't want water cooling.

I don't care much about aesthetics, but case clearance for easy access is like cake.

 

I am afraid of buying all of this then learning that I can't even use ram speed of 3600mhz which is why I downgraded to 3000mhz and now I am worried that I will learn that I can OC (somehow) and use ram with 3600mhz. After doing a lot of research I learned that it is very difficult to get ALL THE INFO about things because retailers leave out the downsides and only tell you about the good sides of a component. For example some 2080 cards don't support HDR but the site that I use won't say it. But when a 2080 does support it then it will say that. Leaving me to think that maybe all the components that I've looked at are missing something and I don't even know it. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$397.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$141.74 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$71.50 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$719.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Enermax 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$212.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1624.01
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 06:18 EST-0500

 

[sky_shark_101]

4 minutes ago, gtx1337 said:

Questions: 

1. Is ram speed with 3600mhz useable with this setup or can I settle with 3000mhz?

2. Is the motherboard missing some good features? Like XMP?

3. Is the PSU with 1000W too much? Or can I settle with 650W?

4. Are there any features missing in the components? For example newer versions of usb ports or stuff like XMP?

5. Is there a better i7 or i9 for a better price? Are there any components in the list that I can replace for a better one with same price? Or redundant leading to waste of money?

6. Are there any questions I should be asking myself?

 

Before you ask:
I don't want to use SLI.
I don't want AMD. (Not my choice)

I don't want water cooling.

I don't care much about aesthetics, but case clearance for easy access is like cake.

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$397.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$141.74 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$71.50 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$719.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Enermax 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$212.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1624.01
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 06:18 EST-0500

 

You do not need a 1000W power supply for this build. It is definitely overkill. The rest of it looks ok but I am sure someone who is in America would be able to advise regarding value. I would focus on getting a good quality power supply that is in tier S or A in the power supply list that can be found on this forum at the following link.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1116640-psu-tier-list-40/

[Guest]

As above a 1000W psu is way overkill. A good 650W like the Corsair TXM or RMx would be fine.

 

Not a fan of that motherboard. I would rather have a Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite for an extra $30 odd. The money saved on the psu will more than cover it.

[BobbyPdue]

1 hour ago, gtx1337 said:

Questions: 

1. Is ram speed with 3600mhz useable with this setup or can I settle with 3000mhz?

2. Is the motherboard missing some good features? Like XMP?

3. Is the PSU with 1000W too much? Or can I settle with 650W?

4. Are there any features missing in the components? For example newer versions of usb ports or stuff like XMP?

5. Is there a better i7 or i9 for a better price? Are there any components in the list that I can replace for a better one with same price? Or redundant leading to waste of money?

6. Are there any questions I should be asking myself?

RAM speed doesn't matter as much on Intel systems and 3200Mhz is generally regarded as the "sweet spot" 

Most if not all Z-motherboards supports XMP which is, according to https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/xmp : 

 

 Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) is a specification serving as an extension to the standard JEDEC SPD specifications developed by Intel. XMP is intended to make overclocking easier and more accessible to new users through profiles and predefined overclocking configurations that are known to be stable.

I would skip MSI due to their policy on their components ruining other components. I had an MSI motherboard ruin any RAM modules place in the slot closest to the CPU and they refused to replace the RAM modules and wouldn't' replace my new, but faulty, motherboard with a new one. The sent a refurbished one instead. 

 

1000watts is a lot and I don't know if computer components in the future will ever needs that much.  I stick to 750w - 850w just incase computer parts get crazy in the future. 

 

The i9 9900K was $100 more weeks ago on Amazon, but Amazon doesn't seem to have any stock right now and the lowest price I could find at the moment is around $550.  

 

The drive isn't showing a price on PCPart Picker and while an NVME drive is faster on bootup, if you are trying to save money I'd with with a regular M.2 SSD from an established brand. 

 

 

[Taf the Ghost]

@BobbyPdue Memory matters just as much on Intel as AMD.  However, the pair of memory he has selected should OC into the 3800 range without much issue.

[Taf the Ghost]

2 hours ago, gtx1337 said:

Questions: 

1. Is ram speed with 3600mhz useable with this setup or can I settle with 3000mhz?

2. Is the motherboard missing some good features? Like XMP?

3. Is the PSU with 1000W too much? Or can I settle with 650W?

4. Are there any features missing in the components? For example newer versions of usb ports or stuff like XMP?

5. Is there a better i7 or i9 for a better price? Are there any components in the list that I can replace for a better one with same price? Or redundant leading to waste of money?

6. Are there any questions I should be asking myself?

 

Before you ask:
I don't want to use SLI.
I don't want AMD. (Not my choice)

I don't want water cooling.

I don't care much about aesthetics, but case clearance for easy access is like cake.

 

I am afraid of buying all of this then learning that I can't even use ram speed of 3600mhz which is why I downgraded to 3000mhz and now I am worried that I will learn that I can OC (somehow) and use ram with 3600mhz. After doing a lot of research I learned that it is very difficult to get ALL THE INFO about things because retailers leave out the downsides and only tell you about the good sides of a component. For example some 2080 cards don't support HDR but the site that I use won't say it. But when a 2080 does support it then it will say that. Leaving me to think that maybe all the components that I've looked at are missing something and I don't even know it. 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$397.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$141.74 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$71.50 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$719.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Enermax 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$212.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1624.01
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 06:18 EST-0500

 

What's the purpose of this build? What's the Price Range? Have you already bought the P1?

[Taf the Ghost]

@gtx1337

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$523.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-U12S 55 CFM CPU Cooler	$59.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$141.74 @ Amazon
Memory	Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$148.99 @ Adorama
Storage	HP EX920 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$129.94 @ Amazon
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$719.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1834.49
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 09:32 EST-0500

If your'e that far in for price, building out the system properly helps. 32GB of memory is recommended for high-end systems. Those are Micron-E die, so they'll do 3800 or higher without much issue. You don't need a D15, as you don't need to OC the 9900k. And, if you're that far in, just get the 9900k.

 

Put a better TLC M.2 NVMe in there. Better PSU for what you're up to. Still need a case, but anything around 60USD will suit you fine. Not sure on the quality of that model of 2080 Super, so can't say much.

 

[gtx1337]

i9-9900k is probably overkill for purely gaming at the moment and my budget is ca. 1600 usd. I know i5-9600k can run games on par with i7-9700k but from experience with i7-2600k and i5-2500k I feel better with the overclock and longevity potential of the i7. I am still using a i7-2600k to run all the new games with 60fps vsync. 

I am trying to stick to the bare minimum for (i7-9700k + 2080s) without losing any useful features. The p1 has a decent price of 92.69 usd (probably cheaper in the US) considering the speeds are higher than 2.5 ssds and it has 1TB, plenty of room for games. I am not the kind of person that installs a bunch of games, I just install what I want to play.

While Crucial isn't one of the most popular brands I have one of their 2.5 ssd 500gb and it runs better/faster than my pny 2.5 ssd 500gb even though they are advertised to run at equal speeds.

 

My dad had a faulty 1060 6gb from Gigabyte and after 1-2 years (within warranty) he sent it back to them they upgraded it for free with a 1660 ti. Works perfectly for now.

 

As a result from the answers I am guessing that I am not missing out on any modern features in this build, besides hyperthreading and I changed the PSU and ram: 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$397.89 @ B&H
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$141.74 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$74.98 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$112.99 @ Newegg
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card	$719.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$114.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$1642.47
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-11 19:56 EST-0500

 

 

 

@lee32uk

The only difference - from what I can see - between the two motherboards are:

Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Elite:

1. S/PDIF (Internal)

2. Maximum Memory Speed 4133 MHz

3. M.2 Ports: 2

 

(cheaper)MSI MPG Z390 GAMING PLUS

1. no S/PDIF ( I like high quality sound and this is a good example of what I said earlier about missing unknown features)

2. Maximum Memory Speed 4400 MHz

3. M.2 Ports: 3