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WanderingMist
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Hi all. 

 

I'm looking for some advice on whether I should upgrade my current gaming rig. Right now it looks like this:

 

CPU: Intel i5-8400

GPU: Nvidia GTX 1060

Mobo: MSI (Intel) Z370-A Pro

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR4 2400MHz

PSU: Corsair TX650

Monitor 1: BenQ XL2411T

Monitor 2: BenQ GL2450HM

 

According to Windows task manager, watching youtube at 1440p uses 44% of my Memory, 5-40% of my CPU and 5-10% of my GPU. When I'm playing GW2 at max graphics settings my fps hovers between 60-100 whilst in combat. My GPU usage while playing is at 100%, my memory is at 68% and my CPU usage is at 60-80%. CPU temps are at around 50oC, GPU temps are at 72oC. 

 

If I were to upgrade my rig, my budget would be £500. Could I get any substantial enough upgrades for that or is it worth just waiting to see what comes this year?

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.  

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For $500, you can :

1. Upgrade the memory to 16gb.

2. Replace the gpu with a RX5700 or RTX2060

3. Get a SSD drive

 

This will be substantial for gaming at 1440p.

Now you can upgrade the CPU to 9900k but that's a big jump, and not necessarily have noticeable difference (if you keep the old gpu).

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more ram, SSD, and think about a better GPU

@SupaKomputa listed the 2 that should fit well.

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16 minutes ago, WanderingMist said:

@GDRRiley and @SupaKomputa Thank you both for your replies. Right now I have a Western Digital 500GB SSD. Is that enough?

 

I will take a look at the gpus you mentioned. 

I run 1tb off SSD space+ a 5tb HDD but it all comes down to what you do

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

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GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

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3 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

I run 1tb off SSD space+ a 5tb HDD but it all comes down to what you do

I personally haven't had any problems as I don't have a ton of games installed at a time so I think I'm fine with what I have storage-wise. Regarding the 2 gpus mentioned above, is there much difference in performance between them or should I just go with whichever is cheaper? I notice one is Nvidia and the other is AMD. I've never used any AMD products so I'm pretty clueless about them. 

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Is the money really burning a hole in your pocket right now? Because i5-8400 + GTX 1060 is a pretty balanced system. I'd just not spend that money now and wait until you have enough of a budget to do a cpu+board+ram upgrade and gpu upgrade concurrently so you're getting full use out of the money you spend. With a balanced system like that in hand I'd 100% be holding off for Nvidia 7nm gpus in a similar price bracket the 1060.

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13 minutes ago, WanderingMist said:

I personally haven't had any problems as I don't have a ton of games installed at a time so I think I'm fine with what I have storage-wise. Regarding the 2 gpus mentioned above, is there much difference in performance between them or should I just go with whichever is cheaper? I notice one is Nvidia and the other is AMD. I've never used any AMD products so I'm pretty clueless about them. 

I've ran both a RX 580 and a GTX 970 along with some older GTX cards,

 

 

5700 is going to faster than a RTX 2600 and battling with the super version

5700XT is going to be closer to a RTX 2070

 

all comes down to what games you play.

look at 5-10 figure out which gets you more frames per dollar.

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

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3 hours ago, WanderingMist said:

I personally haven't had any problems as I don't have a ton of games installed at a time so I think I'm fine with what I have storage-wise. Regarding the 2 gpus mentioned above, is there much difference in performance between them or should I just go with whichever is cheaper? I notice one is Nvidia and the other is AMD. I've never used any AMD products so I'm pretty clueless about them. 

I still have 250gb ssd running as boot drive and a bunch of 2-3tb HDD for everything else.

All the personal documents, any big files and especially games are in the HDD.

With all the programs, i still have around 50gb of free space.

About AMD Gpu, running a RX580 right now, so far so good.

I have some problems with Nvidia cards before, so that said that about Nvidia is problem free, or maybe i'm just unlucky.

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Thanks for all the replies guys, you've been really helpful. I've decided to upgrade my RAM to 16GB and instead of getting any more internals I've ordered a new tower which my rig desperately needs. The one I'm using right now I got second hand and it's falling apart by now. 

 

From what I've been reading I'll probably end up switching fully to AMD the next time I upgrade so I'll save up for that and get a new CPU, Mobo and GPU all in one go as @SteveGrabowski0 suggested. 

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25 minutes ago, WanderingMist said:

Thanks for all the replies guys, you've been really helpful. I've decided to upgrade my RAM to 16GB and instead of getting any more internals I've ordered a new tower which my rig desperately needs. The one I'm using right now I got second hand and it's falling apart by now. 

 

From what I've been reading I'll probably end up switching fully to AMD the next time I upgrade so I'll save up for that and get a new CPU, Mobo and GPU all in one go as @SteveGrabowski0 suggested. 

Get fast ram (3200MHz at least) so you can reuse it with your future ryzen build.

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13 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

Get fast ram (3200MHz at least) so you can reuse it with your future ryzen build.

That's what I've done. I checked and 3200 is the most my current Mobo will accept, so that's what I've gone with:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Ooh, on that note, will I be able to use the new RAM and the old RAM at the same time (bumping me up to 24GB instead of 16GB)? Or does the fact that they operate at different speeds make this impossible?

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8 minutes ago, WanderingMist said:

That's what I've done. I checked and 3200 is the most my current Mobo will accept, so that's what I've gone with:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0143UM4TC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Ooh, on that note, will I be able to use the new RAM and the old RAM at the same time (bumping me up to 24GB instead of 16GB)? Or does the fact that they operate at different speeds make this impossible?

It will all run at the lower speed, so it's not worth it. From what you've detailed before, it's not likely you'll need more than 16 gb. More ram when you don't need it won't make the performance better, but faster ram will. I'd try to sell the old kit.

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1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

It will all run at the lower speed, so it's not worth it. From what you've detailed before, it's not likely you'll need more than 16 gb. More ram when you don't need it won't make the performance better, but faster ram will. I'd try to sell the old kit.

Fair enough, thanks. 

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