gpu GPU Upgrade Question

[Pool Float]

Background:

 

My gaming PC is currently running on a ASUS ROG Strix GTX 1080 OC. I play at 1440p on a 144Hz Samsung monitor.

My girlfriend's gaming PC is still chugging along on a GTX 970. She plays at 1080p on a standard 60Hz monitor. She plans to eventually go with 144Hz, but still 1080p.

We just completed a build for a friend, and she got a little jealous of the 90-100fps average in World of Warcraft (1080p, all settings except resolution scale at max). This brings us to the topic of this post.

 

The card used for our friend is a PowerColor Red Devil RX 5600 XT (with BIOS flash). The current price for this card is $309 at Micro Center, and my girlfriend is now contemplating an upgrade since that is within her budget. However, since I play games at 1440p and prefer as close to Ultra as possible, I suggested the option of her buying my GTX 1080, and my picking up the RTX 2080 Super. Most cards are around $700 currently. She is not opposed to this swap, as the GTX 1080 will be a really nice upgrade for her. But I'm trying to figure out what kind of average performance boost I may see going from the 1080 to a 2080 Super. I've been down the YouTube rabbit hole today, but most videos are comparing the 1080 Ti to the 2080 Super, and say it's not worth it.

 

Much like how I was swayed to give Ryzen a shot on the forums, I'm curious for people's thoughts on if it's worth spending ~$400 to go from a 1080 to a 2080 Super, or if I should stay where I am and just spend ~$300 on replacing her GTX 970. I currently get between 50 and 75fps reliably (with occasional bumps to high 80s), depending on how busy an area is. Again, this is on max for all settings, as well as the resolution scale at 200%.

 

Feel free to ask for any more details that I may have left out.

[Jurrunio]

2080S is just a slightly upgraded 2080 that costs a lot more ($100 for 5% performance increase, no thanks), so definitely not the Super. It's anywhere from 25% to 40% faster than the 1080, I wont upgrade for that (nor 1st gen RTX implementation) but it's up to you.

[Letgomyleghoe]

If you upgrade to a 2080 just give your girlfriend the 1080 instead of making her buy it.

 

Just my thoughts

[Touch My Hamm]

If your running a gtx 1080 then I would wait for Ampere as it should be announced soon and will most likely come out this year. With 2nd gen RTX and a increase in performance over the 2080 counterpart. You would be getting more than the smaller increase by going from 1080 to 2080 or 2080S.

[Pool Float]

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

2080S is just a slightly upgraded 2080 that costs a lot more ($100 for 5% performance increase, no thanks), so definitely not the Super. It's anywhere from 25% to 40% faster than the 1080, I wont upgrade for that (nor 1st gen RTX implementation) but it's up to you.

Yeah, I've seen that the 2080S is only a minor performance bump from the 2080. I'm mainly curious to see if anyone has a 2080S and plays WoW at 1440p. I play other games as well, but that is my main timesink.

5 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

If you upgrade to a 2080 just give your girlfriend the 1080 instead of making her buy it.

 

Just my thoughts

I don't disagree with you. But she won't just take it for free. So I charge her for the card, and then find ways to get the money back to her through paying for things we would normally split.

4 minutes ago, GodSeph said:

If your running a gtx 1080 then I would wait for Ampere as it should be announced soon and will most likely come out this year. With 2nd gen RTX and a increase in performance over the 2080 counterpart. You would be getting more than the smaller increase by going from 1080 to 2080 or 2080S.

I was reading that the 3000 series may come out around June. The main reason behind this idea was to get her older PC the best bang for the buck on her GPU. Looking over some general benchmarks between the 3 cards involved, this is what I found:

 

RX 5600 XT - ~60% faster than GTX 970

RTX 2060 KO - ~70% faster than GTX 970

GTX 1080 - ~110% faster than GTX 970

 

Although her PC is still running a 1st gen Core i7, it's still fast enough for her now, thanks to 24GB RAM and SSD upgrades. Towards the end of next year, she's planning a upgrade, and figured that from the numbers above, the GTX 1080 would suit her better.

[Mick Naughty]

I’d upgrade to anything really. Just got a 1080ti and the 20% frame increase is well worth it to me. 
Was gonna do a 2080s too but couldn’t justify it right now. 
Think you will both prosper from it. 

[rares495]

24 minutes ago, Pool Float said:

Yeah, I've seen that the 2080S is only a minor performance bump from the 2080. I'm mainly curious to see if anyone has a 2080S and plays WoW at 1440p. I play other games as well, but that is my main timesink.

I don't disagree with you. But she won't just take it for free. So I charge her for the card, and then find ways to get the money back to her through paying for things we would normally split.

I was reading that the 3000 series may come out around June. The main reason behind this idea was to get her older PC the best bang for the buck on her GPU. Looking over some general benchmarks between the 3 cards involved, this is what I found:

 

RX 5600 XT - ~60% faster than GTX 970

RTX 2060 KO - ~70% faster than GTX 970

GTX 1080 - ~110% faster than GTX 970

 

Although her PC is still running a 1st gen Core i7, it's still fast enough for her now, thanks to 24GB RAM and SSD upgrades. Towards the end of next year, she's planning a upgrade, and figured that from the numbers above, the GTX 1080 would suit her better.

 

The 1080 is slower than a Vega 64 which is a bit slower than a flashed 5600 XT. They will all be bottlenecked by the i7 anyway.

[Pool Float]

3 minutes ago, rares495 said:

 

The 1080 is slower than a Vega 64 which is a bit slower than a flashed 5600 XT. They will all be bottlenecked by the i7 anyway.

The 1080 being slower than the AMD cards doesn't make sense. In my old build (i7-7700k) and current build (Ryzen 7 3700x), it nearly matched (at 1440p) what the RX 5600 XT is getting at 1080p.

[rares495]

1 minute ago, Pool Float said:

The 1080 being slower than the AMD cards doesn't make sense. In my old build (i7-7700k) and current build (Ryzen 7 3700x), it nearly matched (at 1440p) what the RX 5600 XT is getting at 1080p.

 

Well, there are still driver issues on Navi so it's possible that the 5600 XT wasn't maxed out in that game.

[Pool Float]

1 minute ago, rares495 said:

 

Well, there are still driver issues on Navi so it's possible that the 5600 XT wasn't maxed out in that game.

That's my main concern. WoW is what she will spend ~90% of her gaming time playing. Although it's been a long time, I originally left AMD with the XFX 570X over driver issues.

[Touch My Hamm]

7 minutes ago, Pool Float said:

I was reading that the 3000 series may come out around June. The main reason behind this idea was to get her older PC the best bang for the buck on her GPU. Looking over some general benchmarks between the 3 cards involved, this is what I found:

 

RX 5600 XT - ~60% faster than GTX 970

RTX 2060 KO - ~70% faster than GTX 970

GTX 1080 - ~110% faster than GTX 970

 

Although her PC is still running a 1st gen Core i7, it's still fast enough for her now, thanks to 24GB RAM and SSD upgrades. Towards the end of next year, she's planning a upgrade, and figured that from the numbers above, the GTX 1080 would suit her better.

Ultimately up to what you wish to do and what you expect for a performance increase. I would assume once they announce Ampere and some releases are out the price for 2000 series will go down. the 1000 series kept its price from the Crypto boom but most cards do not keep their price that well lol.

[Pool Float]

Thanks to everyone for their advice. A 2080 Ti is the best option for my upgrade from a GTX 1080, and I found ZOTAC selling them on eBay for $809 USD with 10% off the normal price. They're refurbished, but come with a 30 day return and 90 day warranty. I have a test plan worked up with a buddy who is hardcore into gaming and always in search of the next, best piece of tech. Hopefully all goes well with the recommended stress tests, and it not, I'll send it back.

 

My girlfriend is quite excited to be getting her GTX 1080 next week.

 

For anyone interested, here's the link to the card I purchased: https://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-Gaming-GeForce-RTX-2080-Ti-AMP-Graphics-Card/383243656558