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[Dustin Ray]

so the best i can get in my area sadly is satellite internet. not to mention i have 2 gaming pcs set up at the moment and ive been trying to play several games with my friend via lan and could never get connected. now i find out that all of the ports my pc has access to are different than what the other has access to. im not sure why this is or how to fix this issue but im pretty sure its the reason we cant connect to a lan server to play a game. anyone have any input or advice to fixing this?

[trufret]

If you are playing on a LAN, your internet connection will have nothing to do with your ability to connect to another PC on the same network.

 

The PC hosting the server for the game you are trying to play will likely need a rule added to the Windows Defender, or other 3rd party firewall you may have installed on it, to allow the ports the game server is listening on to pass through it.

 

First step would be to google the game you are trying to play and find out what ports it needs access to.

Then you would want to look up how to open ports on the server PC's firewall to allow the client to connect.

[Intergalacticbits]

43 minutes ago, trufret said:

If you are playing on a LAN, your internet connection will have nothing to do with your ability to connect to another PC on the same network.

 

The PC hosting the server for the game you are trying to play will likely need a rule added to the Windows Defender, or other 3rd party firewall you may have installed on it, to allow the ports the game server is listening on to pass through it.

 

First step would be to google the game you are trying to play and find out what ports it needs access to.

Then you would want to look up how to open ports on the server PC's firewall to allow the client to connect.

I have not done any gaming in a long time but would like to soon. I was wondering are there many new first person shooter type games out there today that will let you run them on a LAN? I ask because my understanding is that everything is digital download now. Whereas the last time I played what was the latest game everything was still on disk only. Is the cloud likely to eliminate the LAN party in the future?

 

I never did a LAN party before but I think I would like to sometime. If I can find a new game that I really like to play.

 

[trufret]

40 minutes ago, Intergalacticbits said:

I have not done any gaming in a long time but would like to soon. I was wondering are there many new first person shooter type games out there today that will let you run them on a LAN? I ask because my understanding is that everything is digital download now. Whereas the last time I played what was the latest game everything was still on disk only. Is the cloud likely to eliminate the LAN party in the future?

 

I never did a LAN party before but I think I would like to sometime. If I can find a new game that I really like to play.

 

There are still games that provide dedicated server files or host and play functionality but they are almost always smaller independent devs. Most of the big studios games no longer let you host your own servers.

 

It depends on what type of game you wan to play but you can probably find something in the genre that still allows LAN play.

 

Physical copies of PC games are pretty much dead now so you are going to have to download the game initially to install it. If your internet connection is really slow you could always bring your computer to a place with faster internet to do the initial download and then keep a copy of the installer or a steam backup etc to speed up install for others at a lan party.

[Dustin Ray]

3 hours ago, trufret said:

If you are playing on a LAN, your internet connection will have nothing to do with your ability to connect to another PC on the same network.

 

The PC hosting the server for the game you are trying to play will likely need a rule added to the Windows Defender, or other 3rd party firewall you may have installed on it, to allow the ports the game server is listening on to pass through it.

 

First step would be to google the game you are trying to play and find out what ports it needs access to.

Then you would want to look up how to open ports on the server PC's firewall to allow the client to connect.

i have done everything i can do to get the games to play over lan. for example for rust i make a dedicated server, i invite my friend to play on it with me since there on the same network, and it says server not responding, without that invite they cant find the server at all but i know its working because i can join it. the issue is the same with games like unturned, Ark, and nomad so its not just an issue with one game, even so this still doesnt explain why 2 pcs have access to different ports and none of them are the same as the other. they should have the same ports being that they are both connected to the same network.

[Dustin Ray]

Just now, Dustin Ray said:

i have done everything i can do to get the games to play over lan. for example for rust i make a dedicated server, i invite my friend to play on it with me since there on the same network, and it says server not responding, without that invite they cant find the server at all but i know its working because i can join it. the issue is the same with games like unturned, Ark, and nomad so its not just an issue with one game, even so this still doesnt explain why 2 pcs have access to different ports and none of them are the same as the other. they should have the same ports being that they are both connected to the same network.

and as i said i have satellite internet. with satellite internet they give you set ports you can use, they wont allow you to open or close any of them, beleive me i called and complained about it.

[trufret]

Your ISP may not allow you to open ports on their equipment or may have them block by default but since you are on a LAN, traffic going in and out of your network is not a concern for you in this case.

 

Your software firewall, installed on the PCs, should be the only thing restricting access to available ports inside your network and in most cases only restricts inbound traffic so the host machine is the only one that needs firewall exceptions put in place to allow access to the listening service for that game on that PC and port number. 

 

You could have outbound traffic filtering set up on the clients for some reason but that would usually be done intentionally and not automatically.

 

Have you looked up what ports rust or whatever other game you're trying to host is listening on?

Rust looks to be using TCP 28015-28016 and UDP 28015-28016

Are those ports added as incoming exception on the software firewall of the machine hosting the server?

When you say you can connect to the server, are you playing on the same machine you're hosting the server from?  If so , you can connect becasue the server and client are on the same PC and not going through he PCs firewall to connect.

[Dustin Ray]

36 minutes ago, trufret said:

Your ISP may not allow you to open ports on their equipment or may have them block by default but since you are on a LAN, traffic going in and out of your network is not a concern for you in this case.

 

Your software firewall, installed on the PCs, should be the only thing restricting access to available ports inside your network and in most cases only restricts inbound traffic so the host machine is the only one that needs firewall exceptions put in place to allow access to the listening service for that game on that PC and port number. 

 

You could have outbound traffic filtering set up on the clients for some reason but that would usually be done intentionally and not automatically.

 

Have you looked up what ports rust or whatever other game you're trying to host is listening on?

Rust looks to be using TCP 28015-28016 and UDP 28015-28016

Are those ports added as incoming exception on the software firewall of the machine hosting the server?

When you say you can connect to the server, are you playing on the same machine you're hosting the server from?  If so , you can connect becasue the server and client are on the same PC and not going through he PCs firewall to connect.

yes those ports are open in both UDP and TCP inbound and outbound for rust, the fire wall on both pcs i turned off to make sure it wouldnt interfere and for some reason it still wont come up or let my friend connect via invite

[trufret]

Are both systems on the same network? 192.168.1.x subnet 255.255.255.0 is pretty standard for home networks. could be 192.168.0.x as well.

Can both systems ping each other?

 

Does the game have an option to join LAN or join by IP? so you are not dealing with the external invite system which may cause issues with external port forwarding depending on how it is implemented.

[Dustin Ray]

both systems are on the same network yes. i did notice after a bit of looking that even though there both on the same network one has access to completely different ports than the other. is that normal?