Getting into PC gaming.

[Dr Goldberg]

Hi,  I am getting into pc gaming but am lost in what kind of build I would need and need ideas of different potential build. Budget is around $1500-$2000. 

[Slottr]

Where are you located? Do you need peripherals?

[Fasauceome]

10 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

Budget is around $1500-$2000. 

Buying from the United States?

[Dr Goldberg]

Yes

[Dr Goldberg]

1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

Buying from the United States?

yes

 

[Dr Goldberg]

2 hours ago, Slottr said:

Where are you located? Do you need peripherals?

United States

[Slottr]

6 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

United States

And do you need peripherals?

[Dr Goldberg]

1 minute ago, Slottr said:

And do you need peripherals?

I do not. Just a pc build. 

[greeatzy]

2 hours ago, Dr Goldberg said:

Hi,  I am getting into pc gaming but am lost in what kind of build I would need and need ideas of different potential build. Budget is around $1500-$2000. 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6gnx27

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.98 @ Walmart)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler  ($99.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($189.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($87.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Corsair MP600 Force Series Gen4 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($214.99 @ Corsair)
Storage: Seagate FireCuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card  ($693.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1931.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 18:52 EST-0500

[Slottr]

3 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

I do not. Just a pc build. 

What monitor do you have?

[Dr Goldberg]

6 minutes ago, Slottr said:

What monitor do you have?

Currently running an Asus VG248QE

[Slottr]

6 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

Currently running an Asus VG248QE

And you plan on staying at 1080p?

[Dr Goldberg]

3 minutes ago, Slottr said:

And you plan on staying at 1080p?

no, plan on switching to a 1440p with at least 144hz. 

[Slottr]

3 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

no, plan on switching to a 1440p with at least 144hz. 

Okay that's why I was asking about it. 1080p requires a fair bit less power than 1440.

 

Similar to @greeatzy's build, just with a few changes that save some money and get rid of some things that you don't really need

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$324.98 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$87.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$107.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card	$693.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1719.84
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1689.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 19:13 EST-0500

 

[Dr Goldberg]

2 minutes ago, Slottr said:

Okay that's why I was asking about it. 1080p requires a fair bit less power than 1440.

 

Similar to @greeatzy's build, just with a few changes that save some money and get rid of some things that you don't really need

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$324.98 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$99.95 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$114.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$87.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$107.99 @ Adorama
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$49.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB XC GAMING Video Card	$693.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$109.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1719.84
	Mail-in rebates	-$30.00
	Total	$1689.84
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 19:13 EST-0500

 

how big of a difference is there between a 2070 super and 2080 super? 

[Slottr]

51 minutes ago, Dr Goldberg said:

how big of a difference is there between a 2070 super and 2080 super? 

 

That's also at 4k, so the gains would be more significant at lower resolutions

[VEXICUS]

I'll recommend something like this instead...

I have also included a 1440p 144hz monitor.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.98 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($164.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($81.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Pioneer 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($124.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($669.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($83.98 @ Newegg) 
Monitor: AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  ($249.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1800.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 22:54 EST-0500

 

3 hours ago, Slottr said:

 

Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$87.99 @ Amazon

That's a 3600mhz cl18 kit.

OP can have a 3600mhz cl16 kit from gskill for $6 less.

 

 

[trevb0t]

14 hours ago, Dr Goldberg said:

how big of a difference is there between a 2070 super and 2080 super? 

Depending on title/resolution it's between 10-20% performance gains.

If you're looking for some savings from the top of the budget builds, you could do something like:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$189.99 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Scythe FUMA 2 51.17 CFM CPU Cooler	$59.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	$99.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$69.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ Amazon
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$499.99 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.98 @ Newegg
Power Supply	be quiet! Pure Power 11 600 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$79.90 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$1229.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$1209.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-23 09:34 EST-0500

And still operate very comfortably at 1440p.

To opt for the 2080S (EVGA XC Ultra Gaming) with the same build, you're at $1459

 

• The 3600 and 3700X operate within a very small margin of one another in gaming. The 3700X is a fantastic CPU, but if you're not doing any heavy lifting from a workload perspective, the 3600 is going to perform pretty much the same.
• The FUMA 2 is frankly overkill, but it is a nice quiet air cooler. The included CPU cooler is certainly usable, but it is a bit noisy. At your budget, you shouldn't be hearing your PC much.
• I like the EVGA XC Ultra Gaming coolers on the current lineup. Very well build coolers from a trusted company, and really the difference in price from anything competitive is small.
  • I would personally grab the 2080, since it still only puts your build into the low end of your proposed budget range. I believe the performance gains at 1440p will justify the increase.

[VEXICUS]

2 hours ago, trevb0t said:

 

Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$69.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$109.99 @ Amazon

Sabrent Rocket Q has a phison e12s controller and qlc nand.

I'd rather go with a mx500.

 

Also 3600mhz cl16 kit can be had for $10 more. It's worth the $10 IMO.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc

[Dr Goldberg]

On 1/22/2020 at 6:09 PM, Slottr said:

 

That's also at 4k, so the gains would be more significant at lower resolutions

So the 2070 super is better for 1440p in this case and would save a bit of money for something else in the build. 

[trevb0t]

10 hours ago, Dr Goldberg said:

So the 2070 super is better for 1440p in this case and would save a bit of money for something else in the build. 

Well... No. It's not better for anything. The 2080S is its superior 100% of the time.

That doesn't make the 2070S a bad choice. It's a great GPU (especially at 1440p gaming, but again the 2080S is still a chunk better), and it does cost less.

 

That said, we are trying to fit the best gear recommendations into the given budget.

I'm not sure that there is an area of any proposed build that would give you more performance gains than that of the gains between a 2070S and 2080S. 

That money is the most bang for buck upgrade when you're already looking at systems with high functioning CPUs and MOBOs, PCIe drives, etc. 

 

So for example if you were thinking maybe 3700X + 2080S vs 3900X + 2070S:

If we are talking about a gaming PC 3700X + 2080S is a much larger margin of gaming performance improvement, because:

1. The GPU is the largest factor in game performance
2. The 3900X is not actually that much different than the 3700X (or even the 3600) in terms of gaming performance, because none of the above lack sufficient cores and the single core performance is only marginally better with each step up.

The difference is about 15% improvement, which is pretty big.