Worth buying the Sapphire radeon rx 5700 xt pulse?

[klapstok]

Hello, I'm about to purchase Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT PULSE on Azerty.nl. 

is it worth it? I've read that there were some problems.

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

PSU: TXM550M V2

MOBO: MSI B450A-PRO M

 

 

 

 

 

[191x7]

I have it. No real issues.

[klapstok]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

I have it. No real issues.

will it be fine with cpu, motherboard and psu?

[191x7]

11 minutes ago, klapstok said:

will it be fine with cpu, motherboard and psu?

There should be no issues.

 

Just make sure to remove the drivers of the previous GPU (I'd recommend using DDU) before installing the latest AMD Radeon 2020 drivers (at this time the 20.1.2 but there will be 20.1.3 in a few days).

[klapstok]

Just now, 191x7 said:

There should be no issues.

 

Just make sure to remove the drivers of the previous GPU (I'd recommend using DDU) before installing the latest AMD Radeon 2020 drivers (at this time the 20.1.2 but there will be 20.1.3 in a few days).

i'm buying everything new, so there shouldn't ben any problems right?

[191x7]

1 minute ago, klapstok said:

i'm buying everything new, so there shouldn't ben any problems right?

If that's all new, I'd go with a stronger PSU just to have more headroom.

Which RAM? CPU cooler? The rest? Which monitor resolution?

[klapstok]

Just now, 191x7 said:

If that's all new, I'd go with a stronger PSU just to have more headroom.

Which RAM? CPU cooler? The rest?

here's the list https://azerty.nl/basket/?code=YTo5OntpOjI5NDAwMDY7aToxO2k6Mjk4NzI0MTtpOjE7aToxOTU4MTk7aToxO2k6MzA0NzMwNztpOjE7aToyMTIyMzU3O2k6MTtpOjMwMDk2NDU7aToxO2k6Mjg4NDExNjtpOjE7aToxNTkzMzEyO2k6MTtpOjI3MjkyMzU7aToxO30=

[klapstok]

1 minute ago, 191x7 said:

If that's all new, I'd go with a stronger PSU just to have more headroom.

Which RAM? CPU cooler? The rest?

 

Got assured that the cpu cooler is good enough

[klapstok]

13 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

If that's all new, I'd go with a stronger PSU just to have more headroom.

Which RAM? CPU cooler? The rest? Which monitor resolution?

here is the pcpartpicker

Now i have 1080p 60Hz monitor but i'm going for a 144Hz curved aoc 27"

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	€205.05 @ Azerty
Motherboard	MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard	€101.05 @ Azerty
Memory	G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	€86.86 @ Azerty
Storage	ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	€160.95 @ Azerty
Storage	Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	€63.89 @ Alternate Belgium
Video Card	Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB PULSE Video Card	€455.90 @ Azerty
Case	Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case	€80.05 @ Azerty
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	€158.68 @ Newegg Belgium
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	€1312.43
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-20 14:04 CET+0100

 

[191x7]

Could you spare the 90€ and assemble it yourself? It's not hard to do, even for the first time.

 

With a better cooler, the R5 3600 performs the same as an R5 3600X. Even something like the Snowman CPU cooler from aliexpress ($15).

The stock one that comes with the CPU is weaker than the 3600X one (that's pretty much the only real diference, because of the weaker cooler the 3600 does not boost so much).

Also, the stock cooler, although enough, is loud and when the dust builds you experience throttling.

 

Ryzen 3000 (zen2) likes DDR4 3600MHz ram the best. If you can, aim at faster than 3200.

 

I don't like Seagate drives, in my experience they are the worst qualitywise.

 

If 1080p, consider the upcoming RX 5600XT or the 5700 without XT.

[klapstok]

3 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Could you spare the 90€ and assemble it yourself? It's not hard to do, even for the first time.

 

With a better cooler, the R5 3600 performs the same as an R5 3600X. Even something like the Snowman CPU cooler from aliexpress ($15).

The stock one that comes with the CPU is weaker than the 3600X one (that's pretty much the only real diference, because of the weaker cooler the 3600 does not boost so much).

Also, the stock cooler, although enough, is loud and when the dust builds you experience throttling.

 

Ryzen 3000 (zen2) likes DDR4 3600MHz ram the best. If you can, aim at faster than 3200.

 

I don't like Seagate drives, in my experience they are the worst qualitywise.

 

If 1080p, consider the upcoming RX 5600XT or the 5700 without XT.

will there be problems with a 1080p monitor? or just not perform as well as it can?

i might buy a 1440p in the future though

 

I'm super clumsy so I'm not sure if its a good idea to assemble it myself. also they'll test everything to make sure its all in place etc

I'm going to stick with the stock cooler, but its possible to buy a cpu cooler and replace it after a while right?

I'm on a bit of a budget, so can't expand the costs that much.

 

What HDD drive do you suggest?

[191x7]

Just now, klapstok said:

will there be problems with a 1080p monitor? or just not perform as well as it can?

i might buy a 1440p in the future though

No, no problems, the 5700XT is just overkill for 1080p and there will be a small bottleneck (meaning performance limited by the CPU, not the GPU).

The 5700 offers high-grade 1080p performance and mid-range 1440p. Flashed with an 5700XT bios it comes up to 5% near the stock 5700XT. Costs a lot less.

the 5600XT will be a locked-down 5700, but accroding to the specifications not a lot weaker - while the price will be in the 280€ range.

[klapstok]

2 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

No, no problems, the 5700XT is just overkill for 1080p and there will be a small bottleneck (meaning performance limited by the CPU, not the GPU).

The 5700 offers high-grade 1080p performance and mid-range 1440p. Flashed with an 5700XT bios it comes up to 5% near the stock 5700XT. Costs a lot less.

the 5600XT will be a locked-down 5700, but accroding to the specifications not a lot weaker - while the price will be in the 280€ range.

lets say I upgrade my monitor in about 1.5 years to 1440p, then its justified to buy the GPU now right?

 

[191x7]

7 minutes ago, klapstok said:

lets say I upgrade my monitor in about 1.5 years to 1440p, then its justified to buy the GPU now right?

 

Not really. If it were in half a year, then yes. This way you're better having a stronger CPU, and that way your upgrade path is also better (a stronger CPU will allow you to run a fatser GPU better). In your place, I'd rather go 3700X+5600XT than 3600+5700XT since the 5600XT or 5700 will also do 1440p just fine untill you upgrade the GPU, but the 3700X would be able to "feed" a stronger GPU than the 3600 once you upgrade to a stronger GPU.

[SkilledRebuilds]

15 minutes ago, klapstok said:

lets say I upgrade my monitor in about 1.5 years to 1440p, then its justified to buy the GPU now right?

 

(in 1.5-2 years)

Will you be willing to sell your 5600/5700 series GPU after buying the new one in the future to recoup some of the initial outlay of said upgrade..?
Because then the 1.5-2 years isn't a big issue,.. find the better price/performing 1440p GPU in 1.5-2years for the best money you can afford, and recoup from the sale (which I'd be guessing you would anyway?)

The Card you buy today, will likely still be sought after by someone using less on any used market.

[klapstok]

3 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

(in 1.5-2 years)

Will you be willing to sell your 5600/5700 series GPU after buying the new one in the future to recoup some of the initial outlay of said upgrade..?
Because then the 1.5-2 years isn't a big issue,.. find the better price/performing 1440p GPU in 1.5-2years for the best money you can afford, and recoup from the sale (which I'd be guessing you would anyway?)

The Card you buy today, will likely still be sought after by someone using less on any used market.

 

7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Not really. If it were in half a year, then yes. This way you're better having a stronger CPU, and that way your upgrade path is also better (a stronger CPU will allow you to run a fatser GPU better). In your place, I'd rather go 3700X+5600XT than 3600+5700XT since the 5600XT or 5700 will also do 1440p just fine untill you upgrade the GPU, but the 3700X would be able to "feed" a stronger GPU than the 3600 once you upgrade to a stronger GPU.

 

 

 

The dilemma I'm having is: 

either buying the RTX 2060Super or RX 5700XT since they're the same price

 

I'm not a hardcore gamer and I just want to play Rust on good settings with good fps for a couple of years.

Till now everybody guided me towards the RX 5700XT.

I don't really need the WOW effect when gaming so atleast at this moment, I'm not looking for the 1440p monitors.

And i still feel like the RX 5700XT is a good investment even though its a bit too much for a 1080p. I guess It'll last longer.

I won't be overclocking and stuff like that. Just a long term pc build. Amd seems the right choice

[191x7]

The RX 5700XT places between RTX 2070 and 2070 Super.

The RTX 2060 si a lot weaker, will fall to $300.

The RX 5700 beats the RTX 2060 Super which is stronger than the regular 2060.

 

The best choice (budgetwise) for 1080p Ultra details gaming is the GTX 1660 Super.

The RX 5600XT will aim to dethrone it, and nVidia slashed the 2060 price to $300 to combat the $280 of the 5600XT.

 

For 1440p, the best budget options are the RX 5700 and 5700XT while the RTX 2060 Super underperforms a bit, the 2070 is hard to find and the 2070 Super rules by perofmance but the cost per frame is a lot higher than on the 5700XT.

For 1440p ultra or high refresh, even the 5700XT isn't enough. That's the 2080 Super and up range.

 

Buy for today, the best combination you can, don't buy having the mindset "what will happen in 2 years" since we can't really predivt the future.

The thing is, the GPU-s are easier to upgrade than CPU-s. 

That's why one buys a platform (motherboard, cpu, ram) for multiple GPU generations (upgrades) and no or only 1 CPU generation upgrade.

[tech.guru]

look here for a comparison,

https://www.techspot.com/review/1931-radeon-5700-xt-vs-geforce-2060-super/

 

if your looking for the best value, RX 5700XT will give you better performance than 2060 super in the majority of games. AMD, does not support yet support support ray tracing.

enabling ray tracing gives a big performance penalty and this may require a more higher end RTX card.

 

Given your use case I would get, RX 5700XT.  Ensure, if you can you select one of the many 5700XT aftermarket open air cooler designs (compared to the ref blower) for your case.

 

The ref blower style runs a little hot and really is only useful for low airflow cases such as HTPC.

[klapstok]

9 minutes ago, tech.guru said:

look here for a comparison,

https://www.techspot.com/review/1931-radeon-5700-xt-vs-geforce-2060-super/

 

if your looking for the best value, RX 5700XT will give you better performance than 2060 super in the majority of games. AMD, does not support yet support support ray tracing.

enabling ray tracing gives a big performance penalty and this may require a more higher end RTX card.

 

Given your use case I would get, RX 5700XT.  Ensure, if you can you select one of the many 5700XT aftermarket open air cooler designs (compared to the ref blower) for your case.

 

The ref blower style runs a little hot and really is only useful for low airflow cases such as HTPC.

which case are you suggesting?

[tech.guru]

Fractal Design Meshify CTG

Rosewill Gaming Challenger A

 

are two probably best for your price range.

 

I would pick the fractal over the rosewill if I had to choose because of the better build quality.

[klapstok]

1 hour ago, tech.guru said:

Fractal Design Meshify CTG

Rosewill Gaming Challenger A

 

are two probably best for your price range.

 

I would pick the fractal over the rosewill if I had to choose because of the better build quality.

Ok, thnx. the current case that I choose won't be enough airflow?

[Jrasero]

On 1/20/2020 at 7:26 AM, klapstok said:

Hello, I'm about to purchase Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT PULSE on Azerty.nl. 

is it worth it? I've read that there were some problems.

 

 

CPU: Ryzen 5 3600

PSU: TXM550M V2

MOBO: MSI B450A-PRO M

 

 

 

 

 

I can't attest to the seller but the card is a really great.  In the US it's only $10 above reference at $400 and to get a back plate, dual fans, dual bios, and have it run cool and fairly quiet is pretty amazing for what it can do.  Really paying anymore for a 5700 XT is just excessive since then at that point your are paying for aesthetics or marginal performance increases  

[tech.guru]

It seems expensive in euro considering...

If i was to buy pulse in canada would be 550 cad or 388 euros.

 

Make sure to look around 

[tech.guru]

I see one here in uk,

Its 382 euros

 

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-pulse-8gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card-7nm-rdna-2560-streams-1670mhz-gpu-1

 

Thats what it should be with exchange. Make sure to shop

[Midnitewolf]

On 1/20/2020 at 8:11 AM, 191x7 said:

No, no problems, the 5700XT is just overkill for 1080p and there will be a small bottleneck (meaning performance limited by the CPU, not the GPU).

The 5700 offers high-grade 1080p performance and mid-range 1440p. Flashed with an 5700XT bios it comes up to 5% near the stock 5700XT. Costs a lot less.

the 5600XT will be a locked-down 5700, but accroding to the specifications not a lot weaker - while the price will be in the 280€ range.

A 5700XT is not overkill for 1080p, especially since he mentioned he is getting a 144hz monitor.  There are several current games that even a 2080 Ti can't push 144 fps for in 1080p at ultra and in some cases even high settings.  There are only a relatively small percentage of games where this is the case, but those games are pretty popular and do exist so I am not sure why so many people seem to forget about this fact when they say XXX is overkill for 1080p.