1 PC 2 gamers

[unver95]

Hello everyone hope you guys have a good year! This is my first time that i write on a from.

 

I'm planing to buy a good pc these are the specs:

 

Intel İ9-9900ks

Asus Rtx2080super or maybe Rtx 2080ti

16GB at least 3200mhz Ram

Asus z390-E motherboard

1x 4 TB HDD 

Maybe SSD 512 Gb

PCU: 850 80 Gold

 

So I'm planing to do 1 pc 2 gamers and I checked the internet there is not so much information about it and yes I watched the video from Linus but he used 2 GPUs and one cheap one but he said you don't need that one we can use onboard graphics. And there is this guy 

He doesn't use any virtual machine the software he uses is aster multieseat it looks much easier than unraid (even though Linus made a video and explained everything about it) 

 

So my question is, what do you guys suggest that I should use? And is one GPU egouh for me to run 2 games I don't think 16 GB ram is enough but please let me know

 

I hope I will get a reply have good day !

 

 

[homeap5]

Maybe Aster Multiseat?

[unver95]

I didin't get it what did you meen with that 

[boggy77]

I'd definitely go for 32gb ram, maybe a ryzen 3900x for more cores and 2x2070super. Also, after spending this much on a pc, do yourself a favour and don't get a hdd, unless you need it for media storage. Keep windows, software and games on ssd, even sata ones. I'd use a 250gb nvme for windows and software, 1tb or 2tb sata ssd for games and hdd for media.

[Spakes]

19 minutes ago, unver95 said:

I didin't get it what did you meen with that 

He meant the name of the software w/o mistypos.

Also, why do you plan on doing 2 gamers 1 PC kind of build, exactly?

[unver95]

You are definitely right there with the SSD but do I really need 2 GPUs ? I'm gonna play with my father he is not a hard core gamer, what he is going to play most of the time is anno. The reason is that I go for rtx 2080 ti is for future proof when I buy a PC i will like to use it for 5-7 years that's why I'm going that big. Thank you for your reply by the way

[unver95]

Just now, Spakes said:

He meant the name of the software w/o mistypos.

Also, why do you plan on doing 2 gamers 1 PC kind of build, exactly?

I'm planing to play with my father 2 different games, he doesn't care about high graphics but I do thats why I'm wanna buy a good setup when he doesn't play i can push the PC till the end 

[Spakes]

5 minutes ago, unver95 said:

do I really need 2 GPUs ? I'm gonna play with my father he is not a hard core gamer, what he is going to play most of the time is anno.

Anno alone requires more than any iGPU that exists, so the only option is either AMD's multiuser support (which isn't present on newer cards, afaik) or 2 dGPUs. But the second one can be something like GTX 1660/RTX 2060 SUPER.

[boggy77]

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$493.84 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	$279.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$149.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Silicon Power A80 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$43.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Storage	Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$114.88 @ Other World Computing
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)	$513.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)	$513.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	Corsair LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans	$119.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2679.51
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$2639.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-18 07:34 EST-0500

 

[unver95]

5 minutes ago, Spakes said:

Anno alone requires more than any iGPU that exists, so the only option is either AMD's multiuser support (which isn't present on newer cards, afaik) or 2 dGPUs. But the second one can be something like GTX 1660/RTX 2060 SUPER.

I don't wanna surpass my bugged (2500-3000) so that's why I don't wanna put anything else if it's possible of course. Did you watch the video I posted on the form he doesn't use Virtual machine what is your thoughts about that

[unver95]

1 minute ago, unver95 said:

I don't wanna surpass my bugged (2500-3000) so that's why I don't wanna put anything else if it's possible of course. Did you watch the video I posted on the form he doesn't use Virtual machine what is your thoughts about that

And what about this ryzen 9 3900x that everyone is suggest is it really good for gaming and I wanna play 2k sometimes even 4k when I play alone I'm not gonna use it all the time as 1 computer 2 gamers

[unver95]

11 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$493.84 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler	Noctua NH-D15S 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler	$79.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard	$279.99 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill Ripjaws V 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$149.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Silicon Power A80 256 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$43.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$99.99 @ B&H
Storage	Toshiba X300 5 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$114.88 @ Other World Computing
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)	$513.98 @ Newegg
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB XC ULTRA GAMING Video Card (2-Way SLI)	$513.98 @ Newegg
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$98.99 @ Walmart
Power Supply	Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$129.99 @ Best Buy
Case Fan	Corsair LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fans	$119.99 @ Best Buy
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2679.51
	Mail-in rebates	-$40.00
	Total	$2639.51
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-18 07:34 EST-0500

 

Thank you so much man ! With this config can i able to play 2k and even 4k games like a single rtx 2080ti? And I'm not sure about this amd maybe I'm acting like a fan boy but they always say Intel is good for gaming i know we need more cores but I'm not to do 1 PC 2 Gamers when I play alone will it be enough? Sli is good but they say it's not optimized and I wanna use my machine for like 7+ years 

[Guiltyxz]

2 minutes ago, unver95 said:

And what about this ryzen 9 3900x that everyone is suggest is it really good for gaming and I wanna play 2k sometimes even 4k when I play alone I'm not gonna use it all the time as 1 computer 2 gamers

Ryzen 9 3900x willll run 2 gamers better as Ryzen is generally better for multitasking, as it has more cores

[Spakes]

6 minutes ago, unver95 said:

And I'm not sure about this amd maybe I'm acting like a fan boy but they always say Intel is good for gaming

AMD has a really great IPC in Zen 2 (Ryzen 3rd gen) compared to Intel Core 9th gen, so there will be no problems whatsoever.

7 minutes ago, unver95 said:

With this config can i able to play 2k and even 4k games like a single rtx 2080ti?

Unfortunately, SLI support is slowly dying and doesn't appear in games anymore (with few really rare exceptions). See if yyou can get 2080 or 2080 SUPER with cheaper but still good CPU cooler and fans w/o RGB (that might free somewhere around 50-75 USD). Andd I'm not entirely sure about Windows handling 2 different GPUs (even if they're from the same generation), so do some research on that. Maybe you can do RTX 2060 + RTX 2080 Ti combo, if it can work (I can't say for sure).

[lordoftime79]

27 minutes ago, Spakes said:

AMD has a really great IPC in Zen 2 (Ryzen 3rd gen) compared to Intel Core 9th gen, so there will be no problems whatsoever.

Unfortunately, SLI support is slowly dying and doesn't appear in games anymore (with few really rare exceptions). See if yyou can get 2080 or 2080 SUPER with cheaper but still good CPU cooler and fans w/o RGB (that might free somewhere around 50-75 USD). Andd I'm not entirely sure about Windows handling 2 different GPUs (even if they're from the same generation), so do some research on that. Maybe you can do RTX 2060 + RTX 2080 Ti combo, if it can work (I can't say for sure).

DX12 multi GPU support is pretty good though so there is that to bare in mind i Guess. Either way I am interested in this as I want to do something simular for me and my wife.

[homeap5]

1 hour ago, unver95 said:

I didin't get it what did you meen with that 

I mean software that is designed for what you're searching for. Separate keyboards, monitors, mouses and one PC. You can test that software for some time for free - look at their website. Then, if it will work as you want, cost is not so big.

[unver95]

4 minutes ago, homeap5 said:

I mean software that is designed for what you're searching for. Separate keyboards, monitors, mouses and one PC. You can test that software for some time for free - look at their website. Then, if it will work as you want, cost is not so big.

Yea I know but i was just curious if some else used it before, if its better than unraid

[Spakes]

3 minutes ago, lordoftime79 said:

DX12 multi GPU support is pretty good though so there is that to bare in mind i Guess. Either way I am interested in this as I want to do something simular for me and my wife.

bear* (Sorry...)

Anyway...

Even with DX12 support multi-GPU is not well supported in games, not to mention that DX12 itself is poorly supported in games right now... Few instances of those that do actually require it because of DXR (aka RTX). And even then, multi-GPU PC rarely sees a boost in FPS, most likely one will experience FPS drop because of lack of optimization for such cases.

[lordoftime79]

4 minutes ago, Spakes said:

bear* (Sorry...)

Anyway...

Even with DX12 support multi-GPU is not well supported in games, not to mention that DX12 itself is poorly supported in games right now... Few instances of those that do actually require it because of DXR (aka RTX). And even then, multi-GPU PC rarely sees a boost in FPS, most likely one will experience FPS drop because of lack of optimization for such cases.

I am pretty sure its bare as the bear you mentioned is of the animal variety? anyways onto the subject of DX12 I guess its down to what games you actually play, I only play like 5 or 6 games and out of those half have good DX12 support (I do like me some lara Croft) but yea Spakes is right - your millage may vary!

[Spakes]

9 minutes ago, lordoftime79 said:

I am pretty sure its bare as the bear you mentioned is of the animal variety?

"bare" is an adjective, "bear" is a verb in this case.

 

9 minutes ago, lordoftime79 said:

I guess its down to what games you actually play, I only play like 5 or 6 games and out of those half have good DX12 support (I do like me some lara Croft) but yea Spakes is right - your millage may vary!

Indeed. Only those that were optimised before for SLI (like Witcher 3, and I mean SLI, not NVLink) or RTX-on titles like Battlefield V or Shadow of the Tomb Raider see a boost in perfomance, but it's less than 50% from single GPU usually.

[homeap5]

56 minutes ago, unver95 said:

Yea I know but i was just curious if some else used it before, if its better than unraid

That's what testing is for. Software like this is not widely used, so don't expect that you find people who can test it for you. Anyway, if you decided to test it - let me know how it works.

[lordoftime79]

1 hour ago, Spakes said:

"bare" is an adjective, "bear" is a verb in this case.

 

Indeed. Only those that were optimised before for SLI (like Witcher 3, and I mean SLI, not NVLink) or RTX-on titles like Battlefield V or Shadow of the Tomb Raider see a boost in perfomance, but it's less than 50% from single GPU usually.

Well you learn something new everyday!

[unver95]

3 hours ago, Spakes said:

AMD has a really great IPC in Zen 2 (Ryzen 3rd gen) compared to Intel Core 9th gen, so there will be no problems whatsoever.

Unfortunately, SLI support is slowly dying and doesn't appear in games anymore (with few really rare exceptions). See if yyou can get 2080 or 2080 SUPER with cheaper but still good CPU cooler and fans w/o RGB (that might free somewhere around 50-75 USD). Andd I'm not entirely sure about Windows handling 2 different GPUs (even if they're from the same generation), so do some research on that. Maybe you can do RTX 2060 + RTX 2080 Ti combo, if it can work (I can't say for sure).

I thought you could split the Vram to 2 like 6 for one machine and the other 6 to an other machine /:

[Spakes]

On 1/18/2020 at 10:51 PM, unver95 said:

I thought you could split the Vram to 2 like 6 for one machine and the other 6 to an other machine /:

Afaik, that was an option on VirtualBox, but it's kinda broken and doesn't work well because of inconsistencies in RAM management. So nobody usually does that unless it's heavily controlled environment.