Will this setup hold up?

[MadK98]

I have this setup right now, except for the GPU, it have not arrived yet. But can anyone tell me if this will hold up for this year?
 

Motherboard: Msi z87-g55

Cpu: I5-4570 3.2-3.4 ghz

Gpu: Sapphire radeon rx570 8gb pulse

Ram: Kingston ddr3 hyperX Beast 16gb

[191x7]

Which games?

[MadK98]

11 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

Which games?

I am thinking in general, im thinking about most games, that i can play what i want to play.

and don’t have really awful fps

if it can’t do high graphics, that will do, but of course that would be awsm

[MadK98]

I play most rpg games, and fps, if that helps

[Phantom1234]

It can handle most esports titles at a high fps and some newer AAA titles at low - medium settings at ~60 fps

[191x7]

The CPU might be problematic in modern games; expect some framedrops and stutters in games (although it might look like a decent average fps).

[MadK98]

5 hours ago, Phantom1234 said:

It can handle most esports titles at a high fps and some newer AAA titles at low - medium settings at ~60 fps

Hmm yeah well okay, that should do but its weird, my gtx 580 direct cu ii handled many e sports titles on high to with Good fps

 

5 hours ago, 191x7 said:

The CPU might be problematic in modern games; expect some framedrops and stutters in games (although it might look like a decent average fps).

Okay so the cpu could be a problem? Allthough  it is a quad core? Have also heard that is the perfect cpu for that gpu

 

5 hours ago, MadK98 said:

Hmm yeah well okay, that should do but its weird, my gtx 580 direct cu ii handled many e sports titles on high to with Good fps

Ohh i meant i5-4570, not 35

 

4 hours ago, MadK98 said:

Ohh wait i meant i5-4570, not 35

Will it still be problematic you think?

[191x7]

51 minutes ago, MadK98 said:

Okay so the cpu could be a problem? Allthough  it is a quad core? Have also heard that is the perfect cpu for that gpu

We have entered the age of "more than 4 cores" and modern games know how to use 6 or more threads.

An i7, for example, or a 4C/8T Xeon for the same socket, would be far better.

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tech+deals+cores+gaming

[MadK98]

26 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

We have entered the age of "more than 4 cores" and modern games know how to use 6 or more threads.

An i7, for example, or a 4C/8T Xeon for the same socket, would be far better.

 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tech+deals+cores+gaming

Yeah if that is possible to get for an 1150 socket if not i have to upgrade motherboard, ram and cpu gets expensive fast, but thanks for your help

[191x7]

2 minutes ago, MadK98 said:

Yeah if that is possible to get for an 1150 socket if not i have to upgrade motherboard, ram and cpu gets expensive fast, but thanks for your help

There are s1150 i7-s and Xeons.

[MadK98]

17 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

There are s1150 i7-s and Xeons.

Yeah okay than i will look into it

[191x7]

20 minutes ago, MadK98 said:

Yeah okay than i will look into it

The thing is, you have to look at used parts and sites like AliExpress/Ebay/Gearbest etc.

And those i7-s and Xeons hold prices, almost to the point that you can get a new Ryzen and motherboard for the same money.

[MadK98]

7 minutes ago, 191x7 said:

The thing is, you have to look at used parts and sites like AliExpress/Ebay/Gearbest etc.

And those i7-s and Xeons hold prices, almost to the point that you can get a new Ryzen and motherboard for the same money.

Aha i see, then there will be a bit of a problem i am pretty broke at the time, dont have more then around 400 bucks a month after i have paid for my house but i will see, maybe i can save enough in some time

[LogicalDrm]

3 hours ago, MadK98 said:

Yeah if that is possible to get for an 1150 socket if not i have to upgrade motherboard, ram and cpu gets expensive fast, but thanks for your help

4770K or 4790K and bit of overclocking will be good for year or two to go. Depending ofc what games you play and how high graphics and resolution you use. If you can get one for relatively easy/cheap. Platform upgrade to newer Intel or AMD will be costly, some $300-600.

[MadK98]

5 hours ago, RetroGeneral said:

you are better of with saving some then going for that old stuff, it was a choice i made last year, could buy a xeon to replace my old i7 for only 60 dollars and that was an impressive gain though my dark side got the better of me and this resulted in me spending another 250 for another mob designed specifically for the xeon one of my relatives pushed me into buying a new system shortly after and there i am, not waisted money but … all in all the complete costs would have been better spend on one new machine then bits and pieces.

then i saved for a new gpu at 500 dollars and maybe next year i will be able to save enough to buy an i10 with accompanied motherboard…. @yeswecan 

so for short, if you are able to find a xeon fitting for your socket at a nice price ( under 100 dollar for example ) and benchmarks confirm it is a solid upgrade i say go for it  

yeah that’s my plan to, just have something that does it’s job for now and upgrade in my pace to something new I found one xeon on aliexpress for around 60 dollars, but it does not seem like it is that much better than what i have already 

[MadK98]

3 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

4770K or 4790K and bit of overclocking will be good for year or two to go. Depending ofc what games you play and how high graphics and resolution you use. If you can get one for relatively easy/cheap. Platform upgrade to newer Intel or AMD will be costly, some $300-600.

Yeah that’s exactly the problem, it will be costly to upgrade everything so i don’t have money for it i saw that 4790k cost’s around 150 dollars tho, so pretty expensive that for an old used cpu 

[MadK98]

6 hours ago, RetroGeneral said:

you are better of with saving some then going for that old stuff, it was a choice i made last year, could buy a xeon to replace my old i7 for only 60 dollars and that was an impressive gain though my dark side got the better of me and this resulted in me spending another 250 for another mob designed specifically for the xeon one of my relatives pushed me into buying a new system shortly after and there i am, not waisted money but … all in all the complete costs would have been better spend on one new machine then bits and pieces.

then i saved for a new gpu at 500 dollars and maybe next year i will be able to save enough to buy an i10 with accompanied motherboard…. @yeswecan 

so for short, if you are able to find a xeon fitting for your socket at a nice price ( under 100 dollar for example ) and benchmarks confirm it is a solid upgrade i say go for it  

Yeah now i looked a bit more into it, and it is said that ain’t worth it to upgrade the cpu i have to the xeon, or the other way around, so my choice then would be the 4790k or the 4770k and those are pretty pricey

[MadK98]

1 hour ago, RetroGeneral said:

which one did you find? 
i'm curious to see how your current cpu and the xeon hold up against each other

E3-1230 v3, they say it is basically the same cpu, but the xeon has more threads and takes advantage of that, but not so much that it is worth upgrading

[MadK98]

1 hour ago, RetroGeneral said:

yea cpu's tend to be very steadfast in their pricing. i guess a lot of work expertise went into creating those damn buggers

Yeah it seems like it, tho i got this i5 cpu for 30 bucks, so yeah it was damn cheap  

[MadK98]

12 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

this is also a nice comparrison

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600X-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570/3956vs2770

and with this one i have all my game fun 

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570/3955vs2770 

triple A included but next year their probably will be a 10700 series cpu coming in place for it 

 

Aha yeah the 2600, have heard that should be a good cpu

[MadK98]

17 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

yea you are right, the i5 is even faster, that generation of xeon's was nowhere near previous socket types, strictly server based, the only cpu that seems worth considering is the i7 4790k

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-4790K-vs-Intel-Core-i5-4570/2384vs2770

ah well, if your setup does not hold you just have to play games that it will hold up too  

Yeah exactly so i will just see what happens, i believe it would be able to, maybe not on high, but i think it will work

[MadK98]

14 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

if you take these figures seriously you are only lacking a decent gpu … all in all though the more modern techniques make up for a lot too 

Yeah, i had to go for something decent but cheap this time.. so im waiting for the sapphire radeon rx570 8gb pulse to arrive They say it could be compared to the 1050 ti so i thought that would have to do for now

[MadK98]

9 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

or a 580
my previous gpu was a 1060 3 gb which worked fine, though it managed to get very hot, now i'm running the 2060 super with about the same quality levels ( at half power or 30% even ) but way cooler 

the 1060 got me through most games at high quality level ( 1080p 60 hz ) this even with the xeon x5650 and before that the i7 920... if it wasn't for mass effect andromeda maybe i would have had the i7 920 still in use since most of my games are more sim or management not requiring a lot, outside enough memory and a decent cpu

I was thinking about the 580 or 590, but i couldn’t fin it anyplace now so i figured the 570 had to do, the gpu i have now is completely ruined

yeah the 1060 was the card i first was planning to get, but way more expensive and not so much in difference i have heard 

yeah okey so it got hot too? hmm... but i would have gotten the 6gb if i were gonna buy a 1060 i am pretty excited tho, to see how the 570 performs but yeah the 2060 super is a really great card!

ohh you do sim? What sim you play?

[MadK98]

42 minutes ago, RetroGeneral said:

Simcity, Cities, Two point hospital, i'm really loving the hospital game btw, reminds me of the old one in a good fashion but now with pause, running a hospital is as difficult as if its ever been, took me while to build enough format for distinction between junior specialists who are forbidden to enter the OR too old dinosaurs that eat my income every month …. railway empire is another nice game to i find the competition part a bit low

Hmm sounds interesting i thought you were talking about like sim racing, airplane sim etc, i love sim racing you see

but i have played some sim city, and think that is a good game, so could be interesting to try som e more games like that