New build need tips

[xven]

Here is what i plan on building for myself : ( feel free to recommend different hardware ) 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel Core i9-9900KS 4 GHz 8-Core Processor	$721.50 @ shopRBC
CPU Cooler	NZXT Kraken X72 Liquid CPU Cooler	$239.99 @ Newegg Canada
Motherboard	Gigabyte Z390 AORUS ULTRA ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$331.00 @ Vuugo
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$119.99 @ Canada Computers
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$119.99 @ Canada Computers
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon Canada
Storage	Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$229.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	EVGA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card	$1858.99 @ PC-Canada
Case	Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case	$129.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply	EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$181.99 @ PC-Canada
Monitor	LG 34GK950F-B 34.0" 3440x1440 144 Hz Monitor
Keyboard	Ducky One 2 Mini Wired Standard Keyboard
Mouse	Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse	$65.98 @ Amazon Canada
Headphones	SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless Headset	$403.10 @ Amazon Canada
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$4632.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-10 10:57 EST-0500

 

Keep in mind i already have the ram, storage, psu, mouse and monitor.

 

I would like some case recommendations as i have no clue if i will go wit the meshify c.

 

Here is why i am posting this on here.

I am for the first time considering a full water cooled system but my friend who use to do that moved away. So i am a little stress with how hard this could be for me as i have never done it before and i am afraid to ruin anything as this is my dream system and it is going to cost me a whole lot. So should i keep it with a AOI for the cpu and just a solid gpu like the ftw3 and let it be ? 

 

I am upgrading from a 2600 ryzen 5 paired with a rtx 2060 windfoce 3 fans that i will be selling to my brother in law for about 900$.

[VEXICUS]

1 minute ago, xven said:

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Why Intel? Why not AMD, when it beats Intel in almost all fronts...

[boggy77]

you can consider ryzen 3950 for that price and it would be better.

the G3 is flawed, get a different psu.

if you go for the ryzen 3950, get 3600 c16 ram.

samsung ssd's are overpriced, but if you have them already...

[xven]

1 minute ago, VEXICUS said:

Why Intel? Why not AMD, when it beats Intel in almost all fronts...

It will be a 100% gaming system, does a 3950 make it worth it ?

[xven]

2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

you can consider ryzen 3950 for that price and it would be better.

the G3 is flawed, get a different psu.

if you go for the ryzen 3950, get 3600 c16 ram.

samsung ssd's are overpriced, but if you have them already...

If i got ryzen 3950 shouldnt i go with the gen4 nvme drivers anyway ?

what psu would be recommended ?

any tips of the tops motherboard to get with a 3950 ?

[VEXICUS]

1 minute ago, xven said:

It will be a 100% gaming system, does a 3950 make it worth it ?

Still, I wouldn't really recommend Intel.

Consider 3900x and 3950x as alternative options.

 

Samsung SSDs are way overpriced. You can get similar performance fr fraction of cost. Choose any one of the tier B NVMe SSDs.

 

G3 is flawed. Missing OCP, OVP, OPP and high inrush current. Check out other PSUs from tier A and B+.

 

Wouldn't really recommend kraken x72, I'd rather do with dark rock pro 4 or nhd15.

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, VEXICUS said:

G3 is flawed. Missing OCP, OVP, OPP and high inrush current

nope, it just has a worse functioning opp and otp, it's not completely lacking it

[Srijan Verma]

9 minutes ago, xven said:

It will be a 100% gaming system, does a 3950 make it worth it ?

nope

[VEXICUS]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

nope, it just has a worse functioning opp and otp, it's not completely lacking it

Still, I wouldn't recommend that unit.

[boggy77]

something like this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$634.99 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler	Corsair H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$209.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.50 @ Vuugo
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$249.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card	$1650.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$139.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3074.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-10 11:23 EST-0500

 

[xven]

17 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Still, I wouldn't really recommend Intel.

Consider 3900x and 3950x as alternative options.

 

Samsung SSDs are way overpriced. You can get similar performance fr fraction of cost. Choose any one of the tier B NVMe SSDs.

 

G3 is flawed. Missing OCP, OVP, OPP and high inrush current. Check out other PSUs from tier A and B+.

 

Wouldn't really recommend kraken x72, I'd rather do with dark rock pro 4 or nhd15.

So from what i understand a dark rock pro 4 ( i already have on cooling the 2600 ... yea its overkill but i got it for 50$ lol ) will it be fine for a 3950?

[VEXICUS]

Just now, xven said:

So from what i understand a dark rock pro 4 ( i already have on cooling the 2600 ... yea its overkill but i got it for 50$ lol ) will it be fine for a 3950?

Yes, it will be fine for a 3950x.

[xven]

16 minutes ago, Srijan Verma said:

nope

So my understanding is that a higher speed cpu will be better for gaming that is why i was looking at the 9900k or maybe even the 10900 chip so i could hit 5hz or more. So why do everyone recommend ryzen as i am going to game only on that computer.

 

I understand that ryzen is all around better if you plan to do anything else then just gaming and it is also better value for money. Trust me my 2600 with the rtx 2060  is still kick ass in every game i play and i love amd. But i am trying to get the best of the best out of this system and will try to keep this for 2-3 years.

[xven]

14 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

something like this

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor	$634.99 @ Amazon Canada
CPU Cooler	Corsair H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$209.50 @ Vuugo
Motherboard	Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard	$189.50 @ Vuugo
Storage	Sabrent Rocket 4.0 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$249.99 @ Amazon Canada
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB AORUS XTREME Video Card	$1650.99 @ Newegg Canada
Power Supply	be quiet! Straight Power 11 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply	$139.99 @ Canada Computers
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$3074.96
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-10 11:23 EST-0500

 

would you consider a fractal 360 AIO ? i prefer the looks of it and from what i read there have a nice cabla management for the fans.

I would like any other recommendation for a motherboard as the Asus one that you listed might be good but i am looking for something that will also be very attractive sitting on my desk.

[xven]

3 minutes ago, VEXICUS said:

Yes, it will be fine for a 3950x.

That's nice so i could save some money with the cooler but my question is will i have to stick with some Corsair vengeance ram as the cooler is huge ? also i have a set of 3200 speed of that set of ram... should i resell them and go for higher sleep ?

[boggy77]

1 minute ago, xven said:

would you consider a fractal 360 AIO

which model? I'd go for one of these: Fractal Celsius / Kelvin S36

2 minutes ago, xven said:

any other recommendation for a motherboard

any of these:

 

Tier S: 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme

MSI: X570 Godlike

 

Tier S-: 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 X570-E, Pro WS Ace, Impact, X570-I

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Creation, Ace, Unify

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, X570-P

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX)

 

[xven]

6 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

which model? I'd go for one of these: Fractal Celsius / Kelvin S36

any of these:

 

Tier S: 300A current draw on little ambient airflow (i.e below a big air cooler in a well-ventilated case), maxed out 3950X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 Hero

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Xtreme

MSI: X570 Godlike

 

Tier S-: 250A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3900X on liquid nitrogen (LN2) overclocking

Asus: X570 X570-E, Pro WS Ace, Impact, X570-I

Asrock: X570 Taichi, Phantom Gaming X, Creator

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Master

MSI: X570 Creation, Ace, Unify

 

Tier A: 200A current draw on little ambient airflow, maxed out 3950X on ambient cooling, 2700x on LN2

Asus: X570 X570-F, TUF Plus, Prime Pro, X570-P

Asrock: X570 ITX/TB3

Gigabyte: X570 Aorus Ultra, Pro (ATX)

 

Fractal Design Celsius S36 87.6 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  

sorry that was a copy paste.

 

 

[xven]

So i guess for gaming i am sticking to a 9900k or a 10900k and i will cool it with my air cooler ?

Any case ideas ?

I will get a seasonic Psu i just found a great deal on one at a local store, it is 1000w plat.

I will look into better priced nvme drives but willing to take any propositions but would need to see good reviews.

 

This is the plan unless someone can convince me that for my purpose of gaming i will get better value with a ryzen 3900 or 3950 but from my base knowledge i wont.

 

Also i have a feeling that everyone is pretty much telling me to avoid watercooling lol.

[boggy77]

4 minutes ago, xven said:

This is the plan unless someone can convince me that for my purpose of gaming i will get better value with a ryzen 3900 or 3950 but from my base knowledge i wont.

what games are you playing? i'll try to find some benchmarks for them.

[xven]

1 minute ago, boggy77 said:

what games are you playing? i'll try to find some benchmarks for them.

Lately some good old everquest, Apex legends, CoD and i just in and out of The witcher 3 and bf V

[boggy77]

7 minutes ago, xven said:

Lately some good old everquest, Apex legends, CoD and i just in and out of The witcher 3 and bf V

9900 vs 3900:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1877-core-i9-9900k-vs-ryzen-9-3900x/

9900 vs 3950:

https://www.techspot.com/review/1955-ryzen-3950x-vs-core-i9-9900ks-gaming/

[xven]

So end results is the 9900k is still the best gaming one out there and in 1440p it will push further

[Srijan Verma]

1 hour ago, xven said:

So why do everyone recommend ryzen as i am going to game only on that computer.

1) fandom
2) New hype

3) More cores
4) cheap

[xven]

well in canada a 3950 is actually like 400$ more then a 9900k right now if you check pcpartpicker... So i am going to go with a 9900k as that 400$ would cover my motherboard and i will have some change left over.