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Ram Overclock failed after adding more modules

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Motherboard: MSI x370 Pro Carbon

RAM: Corsair 32GB 3200mhz 

CPU: Ryzen 1600

 

Hi!

My first setup of my PC was 2x4GB 3200mhz ram which was indeed running at 3200mhz. Over Christmas I updated the ram to 2x8gb this was also running at 3200mhz. Happy days. I have now installed another 2x8gb 3200mhz however the A-XMP profile now never allows the machine to boot. It will load fail safes at 2100mhz. 

 

What could the problem be? I have tried the latest Beta Bios and the latest Release Bios all with the same results! I have tried setting the ram freq manually and can only get 2800(Sometimes!)

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13 minutes ago, cbirchy87 said:

Motherboard: MSI x370 Pro Carbon

RAM: Corsair 32GB 3200mhz

It's not the same kit. Just read SPD if XMP is not working. If you can't find in bios, download AIDA64 - go to motherboard -> SPD, set frequency, timings and dram voltage manually in BIOS:

Example:

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--------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  [ DIMM1: Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16 ]

    Memory Module Properties:
      Module Name                                       Corsair Vengeance LPX CMK16GX4M2B3200C16
      Serial Number                                     None
      Module Size                                       8 GB (1 rank, 16 banks)
      Module Type                                       Unbuffered DIMM
      Memory Type                                       DDR4 SDRAM
      Memory Speed (XMP)                                DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
      Memory Speed                                      DDR4-2133 (1066 MHz)
      Module Width                                      64 bit
      Module Voltage (XMP)                              1.35 V
      Module Voltage                                    1.2 V
      Error Detection Method                            None
      DRAM Manufacturer                                 Samsung
      DRAM Stepping                                     00h
      SDRAM Die Count                                   1

    Memory Timings:
      @ 1600 MHz (XMP)                                  20-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1600 MHz (XMP)                                  19-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1600 MHz (XMP)                                  18-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1600 MHz (XMP)                                  17-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1600 MHz (XMP)                                  16-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1501 MHz (XMP)                                  15-17-17-34  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1401 MHz (XMP)                                  14-16-16-32  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1301 MHz (XMP)                                  13-15-15-30  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1201 MHz (XMP)                                  12-14-14-27  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1101 MHz (XMP)                                  11-13-13-25  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1001 MHz (XMP)                                  10-12-12-23  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 900 MHz (XMP)                                   9-11-11-21  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS)
      @ 1066 MHz                                        16-15-15-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 50-374-278-171-6-4-6-23  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 1066 MHz                                        15-15-15-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 50-374-278-171-6-4-6-23  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 1037 MHz                                        14-14-15-35  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 49-363-270-166-6-4-6-22  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 962 MHz                                         13-13-14-32  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 45-338-251-155-6-4-6-21  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 888 MHz                                         12-12-13-30  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 42-312-232-143-5-4-5-19  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 814 MHz                                         11-11-12-27  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 38-286-212-131-5-4-5-18  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 740 MHz                                         10-10-11-25  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 35-260-193-119-4-3-4-16  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)
      @ 666 MHz                                         9-9-10-22  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 31-234-174-107-4-3-4-14  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-CCDL-FAW)

    Extreme Memory Profile v2.0:
      Profile Name                                      Enthusiast (Certified)
      Memory Speed                                      DDR4-3200 (1600 MHz)
      Voltage                                           1.35 V
      Recommended DIMMs Per Channel                     1
      @ 1600 MHz                                        20-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-559-415-255-9-6-36  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1600 MHz                                        19-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-559-415-255-9-6-36  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1600 MHz                                        18-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-559-415-255-9-6-36  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1600 MHz                                        17-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-559-415-255-9-6-36  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1600 MHz                                        16-18-18-36  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 54-559-415-255-9-6-36  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1501 MHz                                        15-17-17-34  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 51-525-389-239-9-6-34  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1401 MHz                                        14-16-16-32  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 48-490-363-223-8-6-31  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1301 MHz                                        13-15-15-30  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 44-455-338-207-8-5-29  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1201 MHz                                        12-14-14-27  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 41-420-312-191-7-5-27  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1101 MHz                                        11-13-13-25  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 38-385-286-176-7-5-25  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 1001 MHz                                        10-12-12-23  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 34-350-260-160-6-4-23  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)
      @ 900 MHz                                         9-11-11-21  (CL-RCD-RP-RAS) / 31-315-234-144-6-4-20  (RC-RFC1-RFC2-RFC4-RRDL-RRDS-FAW)

    Memory Module Features:
      Monolithic DRAM Device                            Yes
      Thermal Sensor                                    Not Present

    Memory Module Manufacturer:
      Company Name                                      Corsair Inc.
      Product Information                               https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/Categories/Products/Memory/c/Cor_Products_Memory
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I've tried suggestion one from @GoldenLag. Unfortunately the Bios loaded the fails safes again.

 

I have done some troubleshooting. I have place each pair 16gb into the Motherboard. Both pairs i was able to get 3200 when installed on their own. only when i place all four in I am unable to get 3200mhz 

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2 minutes ago, cbirchy87 said:

only when i place all four in I am unable to get 3200mhz 

oh wait, there is 4 ramsticks?

 

well that make sup the reason why. 

 

which CPU is this?

 

you probably need to tweak ramvoltage. 

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Just now, cbirchy87 said:

CPU is a Ryzen 1600

drop speed to 3000mhz. 

 

increase soc voltage to 1,1v and ram voltage to 1,45. 

 

should fix the issues, might be able to do 3200mhz, tho the IF and memmory controller isnt great at running that fast. 

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Just now, cbirchy87 said:

ill give it ago. Will it be called SOC voltage on the MSI bios. things are not always named the same

 

should be. 

 

be carefull when tuning SOC voltage, you should prefferably increase it slowly. also be sure of what you input. 

 

people who are careless with SOC have killed their IMC. 

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5 minutes ago, cbirchy87 said:

Found it and it didn't work. Post fail again. 3000mh 1.45v 1.1v

 

 

drop speed to 2933, increase soc voltage by 1 stepping. (its like 0,035v iirc). edit: its less than that, its like 0,00165v

 

kinda odd for it to refuse to run at that speed. 

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