Expanding Ram issues

[brokebeardedguy]

I currently have 32gb of G.Skill 3400 ddr4 CAS 16 timing 16-18-18-38

is it more important to match size, speed, timing or all?

This is the kit that I have https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232434?Item=N82E16820232434

 

and these are options i'm looking to use to expand?

g.skill 3200 CAS 16 timing 16-18-18-38

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232317

and rgb varrient

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232482

 

one vender does sell the exact same kit I already have. however they want $500+ usd for it and I can order an entire 64gb kit for less.

any input how much matching what matters?

 

[LIGISTX]

What motherboard are you running? Most consumer boards only support 4 sticks of RAM, are you on HEDT like X299 or something? If so, do you really need 64 GB of RAM? I only ask because *most* people who really need 64 GB don't have RBG. Not saying you don't, just trying to better understand the use case.

 

With that, if you get a 3200 kit, all sticks will just run at 3200. So assuming both kits run at 1.35 votls for example, and have the same timings, all 8 sticks will run at 3200 mhz, 1.35v, and 16-18-18-38.

 

Basically, RAM will just underclock to run at the speed of the slowest stick in the system.

[brokebeardedguy]

no clue why my specs don't show at the bottom but I have them in my profile.

I already have 32gb and didn't see a new to buy all 8 sticks new if I don't have a reason. I was simply looking at cost vs use didn't care about the rgb. I simply looked at sets that had exact match on as many levels as I could

 

 I notice as I get closer to the limit of my ram my system starts to slow. as I upgrade my processor I plan on working on bigger projects and will require more ram as well

 

I know I will have to also upgrade video cards and processor as well. im looking to get a set of 1080s or 2070s in the near future.

 

i7 7800x @4.2 - MSI X299 Sli plus - 32gb Quad DDR4 G.skill3400 - MSI Gaming x 960 2way SLI - Thermaltake RGB 850 Grand Gold -  Optane32gb + 1TB +1tb WD blue raid 1 - MSI CoreFrozerL - Vigor GK80 - MSI DS200 - Dual MSI Mag 271R

[brokebeardedguy]

bump?

[brokebeardedguy]

So the goal is just to match the timings?

[brokebeardedguy]

I don't really care about the RGV the day that I posted this question they were the cheapest possible kit available versus the non RGB counterpart

 

Currentlymy average use is 30-31gigs

On 12/25/2019 at 11:02 PM, LIGISTX said:

With that, if you get a 3200 kit, all sticks will just run at 3200. So assuming both kits run at 1.35 votls for example, and have the same timings, all 8 sticks will run at 3200 mhz, 1.35v, and 16-18-18-38.

 

Basically, RAM will just underclock to run at the speed of the slowest stick in the system.

So I should match as many categories as possible or it doesn't matter?

 

 I understand the ram will run at the lowest clock speed for all the sticks

 

Should the timing still match?

 

Iask because in my servers the ram has to be matched completely or else bios throws errors

[LIGISTX]

19 hours ago, brokebeardedguy said:

I don't really care about the RGV the day that I posted this question they were the cheapest possible kit available versus the non RGB counterpart

 

Currentlymy average use is 30-31gigs

So I should match as many categories as possible or it doesn't matter?

 

 I understand the ram will run at the lowest clock speed for all the sticks

 

Should the timing still match?

 

Iask because in my servers the ram has to be matched completely or else bios throws errors

What is your use case..? What do you need the RAM and a pair of 1080's for..? I wouldn't run a pair of 1080's unless there is a specific reason that would be a better idea for your specific workload than a single 2080 super for instance.

 

I would try and match everything, but if you can't it really doesn't matter. The mobo shouldn't have an issue underclocking the faster sticks and make everything run at the lowest common denominator. Ideally, yes, match everything. If you can't do that, I would look for a set of 3200 with the same timings that your 3400 has which should be easy enough to find since timings usually tighten up as you drop speed, thus matching timing from a 3200 kit to a 3400 kit shouldn't be any trouble. But again, what is the use case here? 

[brokebeardedguy]

9 hours ago, LIGISTX said:

What is your use case..? What do you need the RAM and a pair of 1080's for..? I wouldn't run a pair of 1080's unless there is a specific reason that would be a better idea for your specific workload than a single 2080 super for instance.

 

I would try and match everything, but if you can't it really doesn't matter. The mobo shouldn't have an issue underclocking the faster sticks and make everything run at the lowest common denominator. Ideally, yes, match everything. If you can't do that, I would look for a set of 3200 with the same timings that your 3400 has which should be easy enough to find since timings usually tighten up as you drop speed, thus matching timing from a 3200 kit to a 3400 kit shouldn't be any trouble. But again, what is the use case here? 

I work with a lot of 3d rendering, simulation, animation. during testing of parts and drawings my parts run at 100%. a pair of 1080's are the same price as a 2070 super and have more performance. my pair of 960s are maxed. and im limited to the files I can work on. I have to work with subsystems one a time because I can not load my entire work space and test the entire unit as a whole. on different projects im at 30/31 gigs use and that's only working with different sub assembly's. this is just a small file I had open and took a screen shot during simulation testing of parts most other files that are high ram use when I go to simulate system will blue screen for ram dump.

[boggy77]

they will run at what you set them in bios and what will be stable for both.

get the 3200 c16 and it will all runt at 3200 c16 and you'll be fine

[brokebeardedguy]

10 hours ago, boggy77 said:

they will run at what you set them in bios and what will be stable for both.

get the 3200 c16 and it will all runt at 3200 c16 and you'll be fine

That's fine. My understanding is that 3400vs3200 is not noticable on Intel as it would be with AMD?     Might look into changing platforms down the road if Intel's continues to be stagnant. I know there's talk of new CPUs for 2020 just hope they stick to the same sockets