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Is 1660 Super a good upgrade over RX 470?

souvik200
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I have a sapphire RX 470 4GB (Blower Style cooler - which is very loud and the card gets too hot now, after 3 years), I was thinking of upgrading. Is the 1660 Super a good upgrade over a RX 470? Or should I spend more and get a RTX 2060 non-super? Where I live the 1660 Super costs 19000 INR (~267 USD) and the 2060 costs 25500 INR (~358 USD).

 

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I play mostly AAA games (Red Dead 2, Assassins Creed Series etc.) and PUBG.

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Not a bad option, but which 1660 Super among so many of them?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

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SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, souvik200 said:

I was thinking of the Zotac one.
https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-gtx-1660-super-twin-fan

This one is alright

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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57 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

This one is alright

Is the roughly 90 USD difference between the 1660 super and 2060 worth it if I consider Red Dead 2 as the primary game. I have a Ryzen 5 2600, and I wish to game at 1080p Medium Settings? I can buy the 2060 if it is worth the price.

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10 minutes ago, souvik200 said:

Is the roughly 90 USD difference between the 1660 super and 2060 worth it if I consider Red Dead 2 as the primary game. I have a Ryzen 5 2600, and I wish to game at 1080p Medium Settings? I can buy the 2060 if it is worth the price.

AMD's RX 5700 could be even better choice, if Indian prices don't screw it over (and filtering out the badly cooled ones)

 

Again, which 2060? Not a bad idea to go for the 2060 but only if it doesnt mean having a deep cut on something else's budget.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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32 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

AMD's RX 5700 could be even better choice, if Indian prices don't screw it over (and filtering out the badly cooled ones)

RX 5700 costs 32000 INR (~450 USD) for Gigabyte Gaming OC version which is the same price as a 2060 Super. AMD always price their cards way higher in India initially, but they drop to almost nothing after 1-2 years.

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36 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Again, which 2060? Not a bad idea to go for the 2060 but only if it doesnt mean having a deep cut on something else's budget.

I was thinking about the zotac 2060. https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2060
 

Since I am just upgrading the GPU it won't cut into any other parts' budget but I am willing to put in the extra money if it would be worth the 90 USD, and I am confused in this regard.

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8 hours ago, souvik200 said:

I was thinking about the zotac 2060. https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-2060
 

Since I am just upgrading the GPU it won't cut into any other parts' budget but I am willing to put in the extra money if it would be worth the 90 USD, and I am confused in this regard.

Get the 2060 then

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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It's hard to say it's "good" since you likely spent $150-200ish on your RX 470. The 1660 S will outperform by a decent margin, but at $230-250ish I would keep saving.

Really the 2060 Super / RX 5700 is the upgrade margin I would be looking for. 

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Please, before going at the rtx 2060 (non Super) read reviews about that very card, especially when your existing rx470 already exceeds your heat- and noise-expectations. Similar but yet not as worse is it with rx5700 which at least gets a performance near the level of rtx2070.

Slightly below rtx2060 there's the 1660Ti, in case you have doubts about the 1660 Super beeing sufficient.

 

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7 hours ago, trevb0t said:

Really the 2060 Super / RX 5700 is the upgrade margin I would be looking for. 

The 5700 is way overpriced in my country, so either I can wait for the price to drop or get the 2060.

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5 hours ago, Sir0Tek said:

Please, before going at the rtx 2060 (non Super) read reviews about that very card, especially when your existing rx470 already exceeds your heat- and noise-expectations.

My RX 470 is really bad, I guess any non-blower style card should be better than this, and the Zotac one has good reviews.
I can also get the Gigabyte Gaming  OC one at the same price.

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1 hour ago, souvik200 said:

The 5700 is way overpriced in my country, so either I can wait for the price to drop or get the 2060.

Well... a bit. But it's the same as a 2060S. That's its direct competitor anyway.

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1 minute ago, trevb0t said:

Well... a bit. But it's the same as a 2060S. That's its direct competitor anyway.

Yes, here it's price is close to a 2060s, but even if I increase my budget to that price, I dont think that it would be a very good deal at ~ 450 USD.
Although I would have preferred an AMD card (if the price was justified in my country) because my monitor has freesync over HDMI only and AMD is the only one to support that.

As of now I suppose I would go for the 2060 non-super and overclock it slightly if need be. However I will wait for 1-2 months before getting it to see if the price drops on the 5700 to something reasonable in India. Most retailers here don't even keep the 5700 / XT here in India and I don't know why that is.

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12 hours ago, souvik200 said:

Yes, here it's price is close to a 2060s, but even if I increase my budget to that price, I dont think that it would be a very good deal at ~ 450 USD.
Although I would have preferred an AMD card (if the price was justified in my country) because my monitor has freesync over HDMI only and AMD is the only one to support that.

As of now I suppose I would go for the 2060 non-super and overclock it slightly if need be. However I will wait for 1-2 months before getting it to see if the price drops on the 5700 to something reasonable in India. Most retailers here don't even keep the 5700 / XT here in India and I don't know why that is.

Might want to see what the price is for the 5500 XT then... It's not that powerful of a GPU, but it should be significantly cheaper...

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10 hours ago, BTGbullseye said:

Might want to see what the price is for the 5500 XT then... It's not that powerful of a GPU, but it should be significantly cheaper...

The cheapest 5700 XT costs 36500 INR (~520 USD).

I can find a 2070 super for just 39000 INR (~550 USD) here in India which is a better card for just 30 USD more

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12 hours ago, souvik200 said:

The cheapest 5700 XT costs 36500 INR (~520 USD).

I can find a 2070 super for just 39000 INR (~550 USD) here in India which is a better card for just 30 USD more

It depends on the model of the card at that point, but most likely a 2070S would be the better buy.

CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 120mm AIO with push-pull Arctic P12 PWM fans RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws V 4x8GB 3600 16-16-16-30

Motherboard: ASRock X570M Pro4 GPU: ASRock RX 5700 XT Reference with Eiswolf GPX-Pro 240 AIO Case: Antec P5 PSU: Rosewill Capstone 750M

Monitor: ASUS ROG Strix XG32VC Case Fans: 2x Arctic P12 PWM Storage: HP EX950 1TB NVMe, Mushkin Pilot-E 1TB NVMe, 2x Constellation ES 2TB in RAID1

https://hwbot.org/submission/4497882_btgbullseye_gpupi_v3.3___32b_radeon_rx_5700_xt_13min_37sec_848ms

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