5700XT or Radeon VII? (For $90CAD/$68USD more)

[Ichi-Zero]

Hello Everyone,

I know this has been answered many times; but pricing in my scenario is minimal... hence my dilemma.

I've recently purchased a Sapphire 5700xt Nitro - been quite satisfied with it. However, I am currently able to get a Radeon VII for $90CAD/$68USD more than the Nitro.

From the benchmark video I'll link below; it seems the Radeon VII has lower frametimes, much higher minimum 1% framerates (10-20) and on average 10-30 FPS higher than the 5700xt at the cost of more power. My PSU has no trouble dliverying the additional power (Corsair RM650X - 2018) with no plans to overclock.
I plan to mainly game with this and do some basic 1080P video editing. Thoughts on this please??? I'm torn... Thanks for reading.

 

Quick Edit:

1) Benchmark video below show much higher average framerates 10-30 (depending on the game), as well as much higher minimum 1% framerates 10-20.

2) I will be using this with a Ryzen 3700X, 32GB DDR4 and a 32" 2560 x 1440 144hz monitor - Windows 10.

 

[MrBrightSyde]

The question is do you want to play the GPU lottery (not as bad as the panel lottery). You are making minimal gains and if you already have a 5700XT, why would you do a side grade?

Also depending on the game and what resolution you game on, you could get anywhere from 2-3 fps in favor of the 5700 XT, to 10 FPS in favor of the Radeon VII. Basically, the performance difference is minimal and that a Radeon VII is not worth the extra ~$70 USD, especially since you already have the 5700 XT

[Ichi-Zero]

21 minutes ago, MrBrightSyde said:

The question is do you want to play the GPU lottery (not as bad as the panel lottery). You are making minimal gains and if you already have a 5700XT, why would you do a side grade?

Also depending on the game and what resolution you game on, you could get anywhere from 2-3 fps in favor of the 5700 XT, to 10 FPS in favor of the Radeon VII. Basically, the performance difference is minimal and that a Radeon VII is not worth the extra ~$70 USD, especially since you already have the 5700 XT

Please watch the benchmark video I linked. Radeon VII has 20-30 higher average FPS  and 10-20 frames higher minimum 1% depending on the game. Also notably lower frametimes as well. I suspect the higher minimum 1% and lower frametime is the result of HBM2...

 

Quick Edit: Updated my original post with additional info.

[melete]

I still don't trust all these Youtube channels that claim to benchmark hardware and just show comparison videos like these. I'm sure some of them are good, but it's hard for me to sort through the chaff and find out which ones are actually reliable and put the work in to control their test environment.

 

That video seems to be showing off a bunch of overclocked cards. Which is fine, but you have absolutely no guarantee your card can overclock like that and I have absolutely no idea what kind of setup they're running. Those numbers (2074 MHz clock, 1.131V) on the RVII make me think it might be running under water with powerplay modding.

[Otto_iii]

Support for Navi will increase, the next gen consoles are all going to be based off it, while old GCN architecture is being abandon.  Unless you have very specific production work that GCN is specifically good at (or bitcoin mining, in 2019, like a goof), there is no reason to go for it. 

I am usually baised towards 1.0 and .1% lows, but given how these cards are going to pan out in regards to future support, its simply a bad idea.  Enjoy a Radeon VII if you already own one, but don't purchase one. 

Wait for RDNA 2.0 or whatever its going to be called, with 5800 or 5900 series that hopefully release around Q2-Q4 2020, if we are lucky at proper prices that under-cut Nvidea hard like the 5700 series did. 
 

1 hour ago, melete said:

I still don't trust all these Youtube channels that claim to benchmark hardware and just show comparison videos like these. I'm sure some of them are good, but it's hard for me to sort through the chaff and find out which ones are actually reliable and put the work in to control their test environment.

Yeah me neither, as much as i would like to think 5700XT>1080ti in most games on more recent drivers, i prefer to stick to Gamers Nexus, Hardware Unboxed etc, not channels that are just rolling footage with no stated test conditions, no commentary, no real reputation or standards etc. 

(Example)

Sometimes such channels are good for comparing old stuff like CPUs, say i5-3570 vs i7-3770, but for more modern and easy to find stuff why bother when there are proper channels that stake their reputation off being accurate, honest, worth viewing. 

[MrBrightSyde]

2 hours ago, Ichi-Zero said:

Please watch the benchmark video I linked. Radeon VII has 20-30 higher average FPS  and 10-20 frames higher minimum 1% depending on the game. Also notably lower frametimes as well. I suspect the higher minimum 1% and lower frametime is the result of HBM2...

 

Quick Edit: Updated my original post with additional info.

Those are all OC'd to the max and are not stock. I was comparing to stock clocks like in this GamersNexus video (it also shows the cards OCd though those are mild compared to the video you showed.