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Just now, boggy77 said:

I wouldn't go for the b450 asus. The x570 asus is a good board, for b450 i'd go for MSI MAX vresions (guaranteed to work with ryzen 3000)

Thanks but am trying to save as much cash as possible. I want to go x570, that was the initial thought, but unfortunately I can't afford it. Can you recommend a specific board model, one that supports Ryzen 5 3600x out the box, excluding Gigabyte, one that won't cost me an arm and a leg ? That's the part giving mom headaches. I wanted R7 3700x but it's up there so no...

 

I just wish I could go Intel, less headaches overall compatibility wise, but unfortunately too costly these days. Unless someone can recommend a good Intel CPU/Mobo combo for total of €500'ish ... 

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| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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5 minutes ago, TechXero said:

Thanks but am trying to save as much cash as possible. I want to go x570, that was the initial thought, but unfortunately I can't afford it. Can you recommend a specific board model, one that supports Ryzen 5 3600x out the box, excluding Gigabyte, one that won't cost me an arm and a leg ? That's the part giving mom headaches. I wanted R7 3700x but it's up there so no...

 

I just wish I could go Intel, less headaches overall compatibility wise, but unfortunately too costly these days. Unless someone can recommend a good Intel CPU/Mobo combo for total of €500'ish ... 

MSI B450 Tomahaw Max

MSI B450 A Pro Max

MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

MSI B450 Mortar Max

 

any of these will work

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Just now, boggy77 said:

MSI B450 Tomahaw Max

MSI B450 A Pro Max

MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

MSI B450 Mortar Max

 

any of these will work

Ok will look them over, in the meantime any recommended Intel CPU/Mobo combo €500'ish ? 

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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6 minutes ago, TechXero said:

Ok will look them over, in the meantime any recommended Intel CPU/Mobo combo €500'ish ? 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $339.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $169.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $519.98
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $509.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 07:23 EST-0500  

 

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1 minute ago, boggy77 said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $339.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $169.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $519.98
  Mail-in rebates -$10.00
  Total $509.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 07:23 EST-0500  

 

 Excluding GigaShit boards but thanks for helping out... 

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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5 minutes ago, TechXero said:

 Excluding GigaShit boards but thanks for helping out... 

pick any z390 boards from here:

 

Tier A High-end gaming (i5oc, i7oc, i9oc)

Asrock: Taichi (ultimate) (xe), x299-Extreme4, Phantom Gaming 9, x299-fatal1ty (xe)

EVGA: FTW, Classified K, Micro

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, z390-Aorus Ultra, z390-Aorus Pro, z390-Aorus Elite, Aorus Gaming 7, x299-gaming 7 (pro)

MSI: M7, MEG ACE

 

Tier B Mainstream gaming (i5oc, i7oc)

Asus: zxxx-Strix, x299-strix, Maximus XI Formula/Hero/Code, Maximus X Formula/Hero/Code, zxxx-Prime-A, X299-TUF, X299-Prime Deluxe

Asrock: Phantom Gaming ITX/6/atx-ac/, zxxx-Fatal1ty, z370/z390-Extreme4
Biostar: Z370GT6

Gigabyte: z390-Gaming SLI/plus/m gaming, Gaming 5, x299-aorus gaming 3 (pro), x299-aorus ultra gaming, x299-aorus ultra gaming pro

MSI: zzxx-Pro Carbon, Edge, MPG, M5, Krait, x299-sli plus

NZXT: N7

 

 

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1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

pick any z390 boards from here:

 

Tier A High-end gaming (i5oc, i7oc, i9oc)

Asrock: Taichi (ultimate) (xe), x299-Extreme4, Phantom Gaming 9, x299-fatal1ty (xe)

EVGA: FTW, Classified K, Micro

Gigabyte: Designare, Aorus Master, z390-Aorus Ultra, z390-Aorus Pro, z390-Aorus Elite, Aorus Gaming 7, x299-gaming 7 (pro)

MSI: M7, MEG ACE

 

Tier B Mainstream gaming (i5oc, i7oc)

Asus: zxxx-Strix, x299-strix, Maximus XI Formula/Hero/Code, Maximus X Formula/Hero/Code, zxxx-Prime-A, X299-TUF, X299-Prime Deluxe

Asrock: Phantom Gaming ITX/6/atx-ac/, zxxx-Fatal1ty, z370/z390-Extreme4
Biostar: Z370GT6

Gigabyte: z390-Gaming SLI/plus/m gaming, Gaming 5, x299-aorus gaming 3 (pro), x299-aorus ultra gaming, x299-aorus ultra gaming pro

MSI: zzxx-Pro Carbon, Edge, MPG, M5, Krait, x299-sli plus

NZXT: N7

 

 

Ok I can't seem to keep price down below €1000 so back to Ryzen. I have a question that has been bugging me for a while. Can I use both nVME ports at the same time ? I want 1 name for OS another for Games. Possible ? And which older mobos support Bios Update without CPUs ?

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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4 minutes ago, TechXero said:

Can I use both nVME ports at the same time ?

yes, but only x570 boards have 2 nvme slots

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yes, but only x570 boards have 2 nvme slots

I know. Hmm... 

And which older mobos support Bios Update without CPUs ? For Ryzen like B450 ones or x470 so I can use Ryzen 5 3600x

 

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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2 minutes ago, TechXero said:

I know. Hmm... 

And which older mobos support Bios Update without CPUs ? For Ryzen like B450 ones or x470 so I can use Ryzen 5 3600x

 

why would you want to go for x470? x570 isn't much more expensive, but generally better.

 

 

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

MSI B450 Tomahaw Max

MSI B450 A Pro Max

MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max

MSI B450 Mortar Max

 

any of these will work

 

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why would you want to go for x470? x570 isn't much more expensive, but generally better.

 

 

 

I was thinking about AsRock as they seem to have more features... What do you think ?

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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Just now, TechXero said:

I was thinking about AsRock as they seem to have more features... What do you think ?

which model? 

each brand has their own tiers with different features on different levels. I don't think you'll manage to find any features on AsRock that aren't on other brands boards. 

The best bang for buck x570 board at the moment is the asus tuf x570 gaming plus. If there are features that board doesn't have and you need, let us know and we can recommend something else.

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10 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

which model? 

each brand has their own tiers with different features on different levels. I don't think you'll manage to find any features on AsRock that aren't on other brands boards. 

The best bang for buck x570 board at the moment is the asus tuf x570 gaming plus. If there are features that board doesn't have and you need, let us know and we can recommend something else.

Thanks man I guess I have no other choice. I cannot seem to keep it under €1000... I use Amazon UK as I have a UK Virtual address so I don't pay shipping. I then have to convert from UK Pounds to Euros... Am tired of looking... I am starting to consider spreading parts across a few months.. Get essentials for a functioning PC now rest later... Worst part is I need more USBs since my ASUS ROG Keyboard requires 3 USBs all by itself xD

 

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~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/chByWb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£179.14 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£82.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Corsair MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£65.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £956.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 15:52 GMT+0000

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11 minutes ago, boggy77 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/chByWb

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor  (£190.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£179.14 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Patriot Viper Steel 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (£82.67 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Corsair MP510 480 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£65.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (£299.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case  (£69.95 @ Amazon UK) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£68.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £956.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-16 15:52 GMT+0000

As usual, very helpful buddy. But RAM n GPU already have DDR4 3000 T-Force 32gb and ASUS ROG Strix 1080ti. Will check config out...

~ My Current Build ~

| PC-Part Picker Full List |

| AsRock x570 Tai Chi | AMD Ryzen 5 3600x @ 3.8Ghz | 
| ROG STRiX GTX 1080 8Gb GDDR5X | TeamGroup Delta "R" 32GB DDR4 @3000Mhz RGB |
| Corsair Obsidian 750D | Corsair RM750x (2018) | ROG Horus GK2000 RGB | Logi MX Ergo TrackBall |

| Boot : 256gb SMG 960 Evo nVme | Profile Drive : 1TB SMG 860 Evo SATA | Games : 1TB SMG 970 Evo nVme |

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