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Awesomeguy900
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Hmmmm

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor $266.20 @ Newegg Australia
CPU Cooler Gigabyte AORUS LIQUID COOLER 240 59.25 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $279.00 @ Mwave Australia
Motherboard MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard $269.00 @ PCCaseGear
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $116.60 @ Newegg Australia
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive $99.00 @ Mwave Australia
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ Austin Computers
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $164.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor AOC 20E1H 19.5" 1600x900 60 Hz Monitor $109.00 @ Austin Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1451.80
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 15:20 AEDT+1100  

Is this a good pc? I know I don't have a gpu but other then that is this good. I am planning to use this for a looooooong while like for 5-10 years.

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The more expensive components are all disasterous

 

If you push most money for the cooler into the CPU, you'll get a faster 3rd gen 8 core model.

that cooler is really freakin' expensive, and I dont even think it's that good as it has merely a 240mm thin radiator.

The board did poorly with VRM thermals, not competitive at all to the Asus TUF Wifi or Gigabyte Elite Wifi (X570)

Pays 40% more on the memory kit just because there's some LEDs on it, what a cheap way to make money

Samsung = overpriced because now with PCIe 4.0 SSDs, they dont even have the speed crown anymore

No GPU = can't see anything meaningful on the monitor

Monitor: 900p 60Hz TN monitor in 2019, seriously. This isn't even that good in 2012, let alone 5-10 years later

 

26 minutes ago, Awesomeguy900 said:

I know I don't have a gpu but other then that is this good.

Without a GPU the system can't even post because there's no video output, in other words the computer is useless.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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43 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The more expensive components are all disasterous

 

If you push most money for the cooler into the CPU, you'll get a faster 3rd gen 8 core model.

that cooler is really freakin' expensive, and I dont even think it's that good as it has merely a 240mm thin radiator.

The board did poorly with VRM thermals, not competitive at all to the Asus TUF Wifi or Gigabyte Elite Wifi (X570)

Pays 40% more on the memory kit just because there's some LEDs on it, what a cheap way to make money

Samsung = overpriced because now with PCIe 4.0 SSDs, they dont even have the speed crown anymore

No GPU = can't see anything meaningful on the monitor

Monitor: 900p 60Hz TN monitor in 2019, seriously. This isn't even that good in 2012, let alone 5-10 years later

 

Without a GPU the system can't even post because there's no video output, in other words the computer is useless.

So i need to buy a GPU to make the system work? Recommandation ?

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12 minutes ago, Awesomeguy900 said:

So i need to buy a GPU to make the system work? Recommandation ?

Yes

 

Depends on how much budget you have left...

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Yes

 

Depends on how much budget you have left...

I updated the list - 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor $488.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler Gigabyte AORUS LIQUID COOLER 280 100.16 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $309.00 @ Mwave Australia
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $325.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $129.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $89.00 @ Centre Com
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ Austin Computers
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $164.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor AOC 20E1H 19.5" 1600x900 60 Hz Monitor $109.00 @ Austin Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1762.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 16:46 AEDT+1100  

Can I use the Intel UHD graphics instead of gpu? and I also upgraded the radiator size 

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What are you doing with the computer? If you're wanting to play games, no the integrated graphics isn't going to work for you unless you're primarily playing 2D games or classics.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $305.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $55.00 @ JW Computers
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $181.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $116.60 @ Newegg Australia
Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $128.00 @ Amazon Australia
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB EVOKE OC Video Card $579.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ Austin Computers
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor ViewSonic XG2401 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $289.00 @ Scorptec
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1951.60
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 16:58 AEDT+1100  

 

This would work pretty decent and will likely last you 5+ years aside from the storage space as many games 80gb+ nowadays for some insane reason. You'll likely want a GPU upgrade around that time as all the ray tracing takes off and the next gen of consoles finally get some hardware that wasn't entry level in 2013.

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20 minutes ago, Awesomeguy900 said:

I updated the list - 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i7-9700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor $488.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler Gigabyte AORUS LIQUID COOLER 280 100.16 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $309.00 @ Mwave Australia
Motherboard Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard $325.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $129.00 @ Shopping Express
Storage Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive $89.00 @ Centre Com
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ Austin Computers
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $164.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor AOC 20E1H 19.5" 1600x900 60 Hz Monitor $109.00 @ Austin Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1762.00
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 16:46 AEDT+1100

Got a bit better, but there's still that cooler hogging budget and you can't overclock with this CPU, it's locked.

 

20 minutes ago, Awesomeguy900 said:

Can I use the Intel UHD graphics instead of gpu?

For handling paper work like MS Word or browsing the internet, sure. You can do these things with $500 PCs though, and this system can't do stuff those cheap systems can't either.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 hours ago, Slayer3032 said:

What are you doing with the computer? If you're wanting to play games, no the integrated graphics isn't going to work for you unless you're primarily playing 2D games or classics.

 

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $305.00 @ Shopping Express
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler $55.00 @ JW Computers
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $181.00 @ Shopping Express
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $116.60 @ Newegg Australia
Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $128.00 @ Amazon Australia
Video Card MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB EVOKE OC Video Card $579.00 @ Shopping Express
Case Cooler Master MasterCase H500 ATX Mid Tower Case $149.00 @ Austin Computers
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.00 @ Shopping Express
Monitor ViewSonic XG2401 23.6" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor $289.00 @ Scorptec
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1951.60
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 16:58 AEDT+1100  

 

This would work pretty decent and will likely last you 5+ years aside from the storage space as many games 80gb+ nowadays for some insane reason. You'll likely want a GPU upgrade around that time as all the ray tracing takes off and the next gen of consoles finally get some hardware that wasn't entry level in 2013.

Not that gpu unless you want a hairdryer in your system. The Evoke is one of the worst versions.

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3 hours ago, Awesomeguy900 said:

I am planning to upgrade or add a gpu later, but for now i will probs do this

forget 5-10 years, this won't last a day as a gaming rig. it's not like you don't have the budget for one either, you're just spending everything on random extras.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($305.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($148.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Memory: OLOy WarHawk RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($93.50 @ Newegg Australia) 
Storage: Silicon Power A80 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($103.00 @ Umart) 
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card  ($629.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox MB520 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 11 500 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  ($99.00 @ PCCaseGear) 
Monitor: AOC 24G2 23.8" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  ($247.00 @ Shopping Express) 
Total: $1712.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-02 01:14 AEDT+1100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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