Is it worth it

[EchoBlue]

I am very curious to know if there's any difference between the 3rd party manufactured GPU such as from ASUS, MSI. ZOTAC, and so on than directly from the company NVIDA and AMD.

Is the extra cost worth it?

 

Thanks

[Flying Sausages]

Better cooling and vrm for overclocking.

 

Yes. It is worth it for the 3rd party and extra cost.

[MartinKweh]

I think some of the cards from such companies are cheaper. some are more expensive due to the factory overclock they did or the custom PCB,shroud and cooling they add. unless you are okay with the blower type cooling from stock AMD. 

[Bombastinator]

Often.  Not always.  

[EchoBlue]

1 minute ago, Martin2132 said:

I think some of the cards from such companies are cheaper. some are more expensive due to the factory overclock they did or the custom PCB,shroud and cooling they add. unless you are okay with the blower type cooling from stock AMD. 

Is a blower type better in cooling the GPU?

[EchoBlue]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Often.  Not always.  

Can you give me some examples please

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, EchoBlue said:

Is a blower type better in cooling the GPU?

sometimes. but most of the time , its horrible lol

[Bombastinator]

Gets complicated.  The AMD and NVIDIA direct cards will all be reference cards.  The other stuff usually gets messed with.  Sometimes to make it cheaper, sometimes to make it faster or quieter or both.  Also sometimes the other stuff is just screwed up and not as good.  That occasionally happens. Did with a couple 5700xt  models.

[redbread123]

14 minutes ago, EchoBlue said:

I am very curious to know if there's any difference between the 3rd party manufactured GPU such as from ASUS, MSI. ZOTAC, and so on than directly from the company NVIDA and AMD.

Is the extra cost worth it?

 

Thanks

don't get zotac, nvidia 20 series reference models are good and imo the sexiest looking

[MartinKweh]

I will put RX 580 as an example

Reference

Base clock:1257 Boost clock 1340

Memory:8000 Mhz

 

Primary example: Sapphire nitro plus RX580

Boost clock :1411

Memory 8000 Mhz

 

Another Example will be the 5700xt

 

Reference

Boost:1755 Mhz

Memoy:15 GBPS

 

Power Color Liquid Devil5700xt

Boost: 2070 Mhz

Memory: Wasnt mentioned

[EchoBlue]

4 minutes ago, redbread123 said:

don't get zotac, nvidia 20 series reference models are good and imo the sexiest looking

What is wrong with zotac? 

[EchoBlue]

5 minutes ago, Martin2132 said:

I will put RX 580 as an example

Reference

Base clock:1257 Boost clock 1340

Memory:8000 Mhz

 

Primary example: Sapphire nitro plus RX580

Boost clock :1411

Memory 8000 Mhz

 

Another Example will be the 5700xt

 

Reference

Boost:1755 Mhz

Memoy:15 GBPS

 

Power Color Liquid Devil5700xt

Boost: 2070 Mhz

Memory: Wasnt mentioned

I see your point. Did the price change significantly? 

[Bombastinator]

1 minute ago, EchoBlue said:

What is wrong with zotac? 

Zotac sometimes makes good stuff.  Doesn’t always though.  They do have a habit of making their cards look weird though.

[MartinKweh]

15 hours ago, EchoBlue said:

I see your point. Did the price change significantly? 

It depends on the model you are trying to purchase. some will be cheaper than the reference, some will be 2-3 times the reference. depending on what you buy or where you buy it, the price will fluctuate a lot.  but most of the time it will be around 10-20% higher or lower.

[Man]

22 minutes ago, EchoBlue said:

Is a blower type better in cooling the GPU?

Blowers are better IF your case has poor ventilation.

 

Blowers throw hot air right outside the casing; which is not the case with traditional fans. With that said; HSF configuration doesn't matter much when it comes to sub 150W GPUs, especially the ones from Nvidia. 

[Bombastinator]

5 minutes ago, EchoBlue said:

I see your point. Did the price change significantly? 

Another thing they can change is dimension.  Make a card bigger you can fit more cooling so it will run faster or quieter.  Make a card smaller and it will fit in more stuff.

 

One good one zotac did for example is a full height shortie 1650 blower with no external power.  If you got an old small case with no power leads and bad case cooling it is THE most powerful card you can fit in the case

[EchoBlue]

Not so sure if I should get the RTX 2060 Super or the RTX 2070 Super... 

I'll check the price difference but which one should I get?

[Bombastinator]

Use case?

[EchoBlue]

Just now, Bombastinator said:

Use case?

gaming and video editing. Mostly gaming. 

[Bombastinator]

2060S fights with 5700xt.  2060S better at video, has studio drivers which may matter for video, costs more, generally.  Slightly better card all round.  2070S is quite fast.  Runs hotter, bigger, needs more power.
 

what case?  Cooling, PSU, card space are all possible issues

[EchoBlue]

3 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

2060S fights with 5700xt.  2060S better at video, has studio drivers which may matter for video, costs more, generally.  Slightly better card all round.  2070S is quite fast.  Runs hotter, bigger, needs more power.
 

what case?  Cooling, PSU, card space are all possible issues

I have not decided on the case cooling and PSU yet. 

I'm still not sure if I should even go for a 2070S. I don't think I need that much power for what I'll be doing. 

My research tells me that a 2060S is enough. 

You said that the 2060S competes with the 5700xt? 

Overall Nvidia wins?

[LOST TALE]

If you do not care about noise, then I wouldn't pay more than 2%

 

otherwise no more than 10%

 

generally.

[EchoBlue]

2 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

If you do not care about noise, then I wouldn't pay more than 2%

 

otherwise no more than 10%

 

generally.

What do you mean by this?

[LOST TALE]

Just now, EchoBlue said:

What do you mean by this?

mwahahaha I am not telling you. Maybe if you're lucky a genius will show up.

[EchoBlue]

2 minutes ago, LOST TALE said:

mwahahaha I am not telling you. Maybe if you're lucky a genius will show up.

Can I get a hint?