New motherboard/cpu weird slowness issue

[Jahn]

I recently ordered an ROG Maximus XI Hero (Wi-Fi) and a Core i9-9900KS

I'm reusing my 32gb of DDR4 3200 ram which are Corsair CMU32GX4M2C3200C16 sticks and my GeForce GTX1080.

 

I have a fresh Windows 10 install on an NVME (Samsung 970 EVO Plus 250GB) and most of my demanding games are on either a 250gb SSD or a 1tb SSD while my less demanding games are on a Hybdrid 2TB drive I also have an 8TB and a 4TB drive where I store my video projects.

 

Before getting the motherboard and cpu, my system was "snappy", no real issues other than when I wanted to stream newer titles, my CPU would constantly be at 100% use and the stream would become very choppy, I decided to try and grab a 9900KS to remedy this issue, but despite this being a fresh install, whenever I attempt to boot up anything on this combo, it's slow to start, very slow and will say that it's unresponsive for up to several minutes before it finally boots at which point things are completely normal again.

 

As I've never experienced anything like this I'm honestly not sure where to even start diagnosing this issue, so figured I'd ask here.

Hopefully someone here might know something.

[amdorintel]

you installed a new cpu and it went slow

 

if you still have the old cpu install and see how it is

[Founders]

• Update your BIOS with the newest rev.
• Ensure you have your RAM's XMP profile selected
• Intel SpeedStep allows for downclocking at idle or low load, you could turn that off. 

[Jahn]

15 minutes ago, Ehmc130 said:

• Update your BIOS with the newest rev.
• Ensure you have your RAM's XMP profile selected
• Intel SpeedStep allows for downclocking at idle or low load, you could turn that off. 

Thank you, unfortunately only one of those I haven't done is turn off speedstep, I'll give that a try though.

[Jahn]

I have now attempted turning off Intel Speedstep, but there is no change.

 

I have however noticed that when I have task manager open, everything gets flagged as "not responding" for the time that they are loading slow and then go back to normal once they have loaded.

[Mark Kaine]

Possibly hard-drive issues?  After my recent own experience mobos / hard-drive combinations can be very finicky and hard to diagnose.

 

 

You could try unplugging your hard-drives one after another and see if removing one (or perhaps several)  improves the issue. 

 

 

I know seems unlikely at first,  but what you describe sounds *very much*  like slow hard-drive to me 

[Jahn]

27 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Possibly hard-drive issues?  After my recent own experience mobos / hard-drive combinations can be very finicky and hard to diagnose.

 

 

You could try unplugging your hard-drives one after another and see if removing one (or perhaps several)  improves the issue. 

 

 

I know seems unlikely at first,  but what you describe sounds *very much*  like slow hard-drive to me 

Sadly this does not seem to be the case (unless the nvme is the source of the issue)

However... I may have found the issue.

I normally run AVG or Avast on my computer, but since I had heard Windows Defender is better these days I was trying Windows Defender this install and kind of forgot about it.

I installed Avast just now and did a test and while it still does the not responding thing, it only does it for a brief moment and then the program start... "avast" improvement........... >.>

[Mark Kaine]

45 minutes ago, Jahn said:

Sadly this does not seem to be the case (unless the nvme is the source of the issue)

However... I may have found the issue.

I normally run AVG or Avast on my computer, but since I had heard Windows Defender is better these days I was trying Windows Defender this install and kind of forgot about it.

I installed Avast just now and did a test and while it still does the not responding thing, it only does it for a brief moment and then the program start... "avast" improvement........... >.>

That doesn't make any sense to me though because Windows Defender doesn't slow down a modern PC noticeably,  I even recently saw Jayztwocents doing a comparison and he got - to his surprise - better results with Windows defender on instead of off lol...

 

Are you really sure you have tested all your hard-drives individually? 

 

If yes,  then idk either,  but you definitely shouldn't get any of those slowdowns especially not if Windows defender is the only AV installed - personally I can't say how Avast would affect a PC because I would never use it. 

 

 

 

 

[Jahn]

41 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

That doesn't make any sense to me though because Windows Defender doesn't slow down a modern PC noticeably,  I even recently saw Jayztwocents doing a comparison and he got - to his surprise - better results with Windows defender on instead of off lol...

 

Are you really sure you have tested all your hard-drives individually? 

 

If yes,  then idk either,  but you definitely shouldn't get any of those slowdowns especially not if Windows defender is the only AV installed - personally I can't say how Avast would affect a PC because I would never use it. 

 

 

 

 

I unplugged all hard drives other than the NVME and tested with just the NVME and it happened then as well.

And I missed that Jay video, but was he looking at launch speeds as well as ingame performances? Because this issue is specifically on the launch of a program and/or game.

[Mark Kaine]

4 minutes ago, Jahn said:

I unplugged all hard drives other than the NVME and tested with just the NVME and it happened then as well.

And I missed that Jay video, but was he looking at launch speeds as well as ingame performances? Because this issue is specifically on the launch of a program and/or game.

I see.  And no, he just tested game performance. 

 

I can assure you however windows defender should have absolutely minimal impact on system performance, stability and startup. 

 

And that's the case since windows 10 has been introduced. 

 

 

Really I think these issues you're describing have an other,  currently unknown cause,  it literally cannot be windows defender. 

[Jahn]

7 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

I see.  And no, he just tested game performance. 

 

I can assure you however windows defender should have absolutely minimal impact on system performance, stability and startup. 

 

And that's the case since windows 10 has been introduced. 

 

 

Really I think these issues you're describing have an other,  currently unknown cause,  it literally cannot be windows defender. 

I kind of agree with you, but since switching to AVAST caused the issue to at least kind of go away, it does seem to be the case, however I would say that the issue does have to do something with hard drives as I suspect what's causing the issue in the first place is windows defender / avast doing a scan before the program starts, just avast finishes the scan faster than windows defender, and for some reason windows defender takes roughly 1 minute to finish its scan vs about 10 seconds for avast.

 

The question is, or at least my best guess at the question is: why does the scan take so long?