3600 vs 3700x

[Paco22904]

Hi, looking to build a new pc and was wondering if the 3700x is worth the around $100 price primium versus a 3600 and better cooler for OCing. I lightly game but primarily look to run Inventor (CAD) as well as web browsing, etc. I will be running 2 1440p monitors with a 1070ti. Budget isn't super strict but I'd obviously like to save money wherever in order to upgrade peripherals, etc. Thanks

[Streetguru]

24 minutes ago, Paco22904 said:

Hi, looking to build a new pc and was wondering if the 3700x is worth the around $100 price primium versus a 3600 and b

Like you already have the 1070ti? Or you're getting one cheap/free?

Are you doing a ton of actual rendering in the software? Doesn't seem like much of it is able to use multiple CPU threads.

[Paco22904]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Like you already have the 1070ti? Or you're getting one cheap/free?

Are you doing a ton of actual rendering in the software? Doesn't seem like much of it is able to use multiple CPU threads.

 

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Like you already have the 1070ti? Or you're getting one cheap/free?

Are you doing a ton of actual rendering in the software? Doesn't seem like much of it is able to use multiple CPU threads.

I already have the 1070ti and there isn't much rendering.

[Streetguru]

2 minutes ago, Paco22904 said:

 

I already have the 1070ti and there isn't much rendering.

Then the R5 3600 will be fine

 

What country?

 

and what's your current CPU?

[Paco22904]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Then the R5 3600 will be fine

 

What country?

 

and what's your current CPU?

US, I'm currently running a 4960k.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Paco22904 said:

US, I'm currently running a 4960k.

Then probably just go for something like that

 

if you want a better cooler get a Neptwin or Scythe Fuma 2

That X570 board just happens to be cheap on that website
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LFMpyX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $394.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-25 20:32 EDT-0400

[Paco22904]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Then probably just go for something like that

 

if you want a better cooler get a Neptwin or Scythe Fuma 2

That X570 board just happens to be cheap on that website
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LFMpyX

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $394.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-25 20:32 EDT-0400

Im guessing I'd need a better cooler to be able to overclock well? Also, is the advantage of going for 3600 memory significant?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Paco22904 said:

Im guessing I'd need a better cooler to be able to overclock well?

a basic $20 air cooler like a Gammax 400 will be fine

 

the dual tower coolers are just for lower noise levels mostly

 

the Ryzen 5 3600 isn't going to kick out much heat, maybe 100-120 avg even with some overclocking.

[Paco22904]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

a basic $20 air cooler like a Gammax 400 will be fine

 

the dual tower coolers are just for lower noise levels mostly

 

the Ryzen 5 3600 isn't going to kick out much heat, maybe 100-120 avg even with some overclocking.

What about 3600 mhz memory? Is the upgrade significant?

[Streetguru]

Just now, Paco22904 said:

What about 3600 mhz memory? Is the upgrade significant?

I wouldn't pay a lot more for it, check out actually hardcore overclocking for a lot more info across long videos

 

if it's within like $10 maybe, for 3600 CL16, but you can probably just overclock the 3200mhz kit too.
 

 

[Flying Sausages]

3600 if you are pure gaming

 

3700x if you are gaming and productivity

 

3900x and 3950x for heavy productivity and workstation.

[Paco22904]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

I wouldn't pay a lot more for it, check out actually hardcore overclocking for a lot more info across long videos

 

if it's within like $10 maybe, for 3600 CL16, but you can probably just overclock the 3200mhz kit too.
 

 

Does this list look good?

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$194.79 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler	$38.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$134.89 @ OutletPC
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory	$85.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	$66.85 @ OutletPC
Case	NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case	$69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	$69.88 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$681.37
	Mail-in rebates	-$20.00
	Total	$661.37
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-25 20:43 EDT-0400

 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Paco22904 said:

 

Neptwin has more performance as a cooler at the same price

 

3600mhz Cl16, it got expensive I imagine because of Ryzen 3000, it used to be $80 for a kit, now it's $100 on the part picker.

 

Would stick to 3200mhz CL16

Would also suggest a case with airflow that has a mesh front, this one still has the same aesthetic.

Case and Power Supply pricing is up with the trade war, could also just reuse your current case and power supply?

THe 660p is just nice for the money and has a sizable cache for speeding itself up.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3ntgJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN V2.0 53.65 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ B&H)
Total: $687.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-25 20:46 EDT-0400

[Paco22904]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Neptwin has more performance as a cooler at the same price

 

3600mhz Cl16, it got expensive I imagine because of Ryzen 3000, it used to be $80 for a kit, now it's $100 on the part picker.

 

Would stick to 3200mhz CL16

Would also suggest a case with airflow that has a mesh front, this one still has the same aesthetic.

Case and Power Supply pricing is up with the trade war, could also just reuse your current case and power supply?

THe 660p is just nice for the money and has a sizable cache for speeding itself up.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/g3ntgJ

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($194.79 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool NEPTWIN V2.0 53.65 CFM CPU Cooler  ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR600 (w/o ODD) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  ($81.99 @ B&H)
Total: $687.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-10-25 20:46 EDT-0400

I've heard the 660p was slow no? I was also hoping to still have my old system usable so I rather not reuse parts. Are there other options for coolers that are relatively quiet at a lower price? 

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Paco22904 said:

I've heard the 660p was slow no? I was also hoping to still have my old system usable so I rather not reuse parts. Are there other options for coolers that are relatively quiet at a lower price? 

Not particularly, you just want to find the biggest/fattest cooler for the lower price

 

there's this one for $35

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r3xfrH/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-ucacop0900csb01

[Paco22904]

5 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Not particularly, you just want to find the biggest/fattest cooler for the lower price

 

there's this one for $35

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/r3xfrH/arctic-cooling-cpu-cooler-ucacop0900csb01

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18 

 

what about this RAM? 3600 at $85

[Streetguru]

Just now, Paco22904 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VNJtt6/corsair-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk16gx4m2d3600c18 

 

what about this RAM? 3600 at $85

The CAS latency is listed on the main page

 

3600mhz CL18 isn't going to be much if any faster than 3200mhz CL16 at a lower price.

 

3200mhz CL14 is also expensive for the same reasons.

 

[Paco22904]

4 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The CAS latency is listed on the main page

 

3600mhz CL18 isn't going to be much if any faster than 3200mhz CL16 at a lower price.

 

3200mhz CL14 is also expensive for the same reasons.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc 

 

What about this then? 3600 CL16

[Streetguru]

Just now, Paco22904 said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc 

 

What about this then? 3600 CL16

That would should be fine, must have missed it in the list

[Paco22904]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

That would should be fine, must have missed it in the list

Alright, thanks